10/1 MLB Playoffs -- Red Wedding Day

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Rooting for the White Sox. They have a fun team full of exciting players, and while I can respect Oakland's ability to win on the margins, I've found the organization frustrating in its refusal to commit to paying ANY players and the idea that they still hold some key idea on how to win, even though the Beane-era hasn't won shit.
 

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The two SPs in the White Sox/A’s game got a total of seven outs combined.
 

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Rooting for the White Sox. They have a fun team full of exciting players, and while I can respect Oakland's ability to win on the margins, I've found the organization frustrating in its refusal to commit to paying ANY players and the idea that they still hold some key idea on how to win, even though the Beane-era hasn't won shit.
That's a really good assessment of the last, what, ten, fifteen years of vaguely liking and wanting to like the idea of the As.
 

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The first three White Sox pitchers have gotten seven total outs.
 

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That's a really good assessment of the last, what, ten, fifteen years of vaguely liking and wanting to like the idea of the As.
I can respect their ability to consistently re-tool and remain competitive, but at some point you do have to make a commitment to some of your players and have some stability. Ownership doesn't put any money into the franchise and Beane shuffles the chairs around enough to get some competent play. He was certainly a trailblazer and has changed the way front offices approached the game, but evidence suggests that he has kind of turned into a Dinosaur. Other organizations had adopted his model and smaller market teams that don't spend a lot of money (Kansas City, Cleveland, Tampa) have been more successful. Since 2000, Oakland has made the ALCS once (in 2006, swept by Detroit). Since 2000, they are 15-21 in the playoffs. I just feel like Oakland kind of gets a pass, but other organizations that have similar budget restraints have had more success.
 

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Kansas City, Cleveland and Tampa have one World Series between them in the past 30 years. They’ve had more postseason success than Oakland, but as far as championships go these small market teams seem to have a ceiling.
 

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I can respect their ability to consistently re-tool and remain competitive, but at some point you do have to make a commitment to some of your players and have some stability. Ownership doesn't put any money into the franchise and Beane shuffles the chairs around enough to get some competent play. He was certainly a trailblazer and has changed the way front offices approached the game, but evidence suggests that he has kind of turned into a Dinosaur. Other organizations had adopted his model and smaller market teams that don't spend a lot of money (Kansas City, Cleveland, Tampa) have been more successful. Since 2000, Oakland has made the ALCS once (in 2006, swept by Detroit). Since 2000, they are 15-21 in the playoffs. I just feel like Oakland kind of gets a pass, but other organizations that have similar budget restraints have had more success.
I completely agree, and I didn't realize it. Doing it on a shoestring is a pretty compelling story, but it's sports, isn't it? You have to do it sometime. I do like Oakland, and the Coliseum, in the context of swanky San Fransisco and what has become of the Bay Area, but the As don't seem interested in making the leap.
 

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I can't say I know too much about the White Sox staff, but they are sure running through pitchers quickly today for a team who didn't give up a run until a few minutes ago. Their first 4 pitchers got 11 outs total, Rodon in now.
 

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Kansas City, Cleveland and Tampa have one World Series between them in the past 30 years. They’ve had more postseason success than Oakland, but as far as championships go these small market teams seem to have a ceiling.
The real bad luck story was the Pirates, running into Wainwright (twice in NLDS), then Bumgarner and Arrieta in WC games ... when each was in their prime
 

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Foster has just fallen apart and the A's lead. That poor kid is just churning inside.
 

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Any other year, Khris Davis hits a bases clearing double in that spot.
That was horrendous by Davis to swing at that 1-0 pitch and let the kid off the hook like that. He'd just walked in 2 runs, looked completely scared, and hadn't thrown a strike in this at-bat yet. If you swing there, you had better hit a rocket somewhere.
 

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So not counting the previous two games starters, the White Sox still have 4 relievers in the pen
 

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while it is win or go home, I think Renteria has left himself short in the pen the rest of the game.

was'nt Dunning alright this season? Pulling him after 4 batters maybe will end up shortsighted.

EDIT: didn't see the Crochet injury, that makes some more sense.

that said, the White Sox are capable of exploding on offense. They might need it to win, but they can do it.
 

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so currently the most likely LDS matchups are...

Yanks-Rays (100%)
Astros-A's (I'd say about 75-80% right now)
Marlins-Braves (Marlins up 1-0)
Cards-Dodgers (both teams up 1-0)

3/4 intradivision again, and the last one is a pretty boring one we've seen many times already. :/
 

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This is probably the White Sox chance right here -- 2 on for Abreu in the 8th.

Edit: Abreu swung at 2 balls off the plate, should be bases loaded with 1 out right now. Instead, he grounds into an inning (season?) ending double play. Understand wanting to keep the bat in his hands, but that's tough.
 

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When do the Marlins and Cubs know what time they'e playing? Doesn't seem fair to string them solely for tv reasons. Weather today not really their fault. The winner ( if there's a game 3) will arrive at the bubble significantly later than their opponent, no?
 

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When do the Marlins and Cubs know what time they'e playing? Doesn't seem fair to string them solely for tv reasons. Weather today not really their fault. The winner ( if there's a game 3) will arrive at the bubble significantly later than their opponent, no?
11 a.m. Friday
 

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When do the Marlins and Cubs know what time they'e playing? Doesn't seem fair to string them solely for tv reasons. Weather today not really their fault. The winner ( if there's a game 3) will arrive at the bubble significantly later than their opponent, no?
NLDS doesn't start until Tuesday and that series will end Saturday if not tomorrow, so still two or three days in between. NY stayed in CLE today and worked out there before flying to SD I think this afternoon.
 

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Are the A's going to try to use Hendriks for a save? I'm saying right now that has very little chance of working, 49 pitches yesterday.