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Not good body language from Marchand to Pasta at the end of OT. He looked pissed at pasta for gambling at center ice and letting the man get past him
 

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Shitty Pasta in OT again, and Lindholm doesn’t take the pass in a 2 on 1.
 

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I'm honestly at the point Pasta needs to play minimally in OT. His play has caused many more goals against than he's scored(yes I know reactive but I keep getting data points proving this)
 

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That whole sequence was just lazy shitty play. Monty needs to wake the fuck up and hold them accountable. Defense constantly covering nobody, constantly failing at fundamentals in coverage. Lazy back checks by the "stars"
 
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Absolutely need to minimize Pasta in OT. He puts no effort into it whatsoever. He can be so lazy and careless at crucial times. The B's fought hard to get to that point and didn't deserve his lackadaisical approach.
 
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#73 was a man possessed in the 3rd. Given the recent history of OT losses I would have had him out there to start instead of #27. I know you have to use Lindy at some point but he looked gassed all night.
 

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It looked to me like if Marchand hadn't broken up ice when Pastrnak challenged the puck, Marchand could have covered the eventual goal scorer instead of giving up the two-on-one.
 

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It looked to me like if Marchand hadn't broken up ice when Pastrnak challenged the puck, Marchand could have covered the eventual goal scorer instead of giving up the two-on-one.
That goal was equally on Marchand as it was Pasta. I have no idea what the fuck Marchand was doing there, he's drifting towards the other end behind all 5 other guys while Vegas has full possession. Pasta clearly thought Marchand was coming back for D help so was trying to just slow Stone down.

Also Pasta busted his ass to get back after he realized it, but it was too late. Anyone thinking Pasta is lazy is immediately disqualified from having an opinion in my eyes. It was a bad play sure (though not entirely his fault) but not a lazy one.

Thankfully there's no 3 on 3 in OT In the playoffs.
 

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Absolutely need to minimize Pasta in OT. He puts no effort into it whatsoever. He can be so lazy and careless at crucial times. The B's fought hard to get to that point and didn't deserve his lackadaisical approach.
Edit...Just picture Charlie Murphy laughing
 
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That goal was equally on Marchand as it was Pasta. I have no idea what the fuck Marchand was doing there, he's drifting towards the other end behind all 5 other guys while Vegas has full possession. Pasta clearly thought Marchand was coming back for D help so was trying to just slow Stone down.

Also Pasta busted his ass to get back after he realized it, but it was too late. Anyone thinking Pasta is lazy is immediately disqualified from having an opinion in my eyes. It was a bad play sure (though not entirely his fault) but not a lazy one.
I think it’s informed by him half assing a couple plays in the previous OTs/shootout.
 

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I thought that one was basically an attempted change-up. He's shown the hip laster shot multiple times in shootouts / penalty shots this year and tried to basically do the opposite. Get the goalie thinking high ripper and slide the puck underneath.
 

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That's not half assing - that's a variation of his slingshot move trying to catch Georgiev sleeping. Obviously didn't work but it's not like he's not trying to score here.

Edit: yeah what @cshea said. And not responding to anyone directly, more in general because I'm seeing the same sentiment on Twitter.

I dunno, he's the best Bruins goal scorer of my lifetime (and maybe ever) and he's certainly not perfect but the Bruins are better when he's on the ice. This sentiment that he's lazy or not trying/drifting and should be benched for overtimes is just asinine to me.
 

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yeah, I make no judgement because he knows far better than I do despite what I say in most game threads. was just adding context
(he does frustrate me sometimes but that's probably him being a victim of his own success more than anything)
 

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FWIW with Pasta on the ice in 3x3 the past 2 years the Bruins are -1 in goals. 3 for, 4 gainst. Tied with Lindholm and Marchand for the most 3x3 goals, Marchand and Lindholm have been on the ice for more goals against (5).

He shoots a lot and shots in OT that don't go in are likely to trigger a rush the other way. Those can end up in the back of the net. I'll take the top 5 scorer in the world on the ice in these situations.
 

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(he does frustrate me sometimes but that's probably him being a victim of his own success more than anything)
Yeah this is well said. And I think everyone tends to remember the failures and take for granted the ridiculous things he does, as is human nature. Aka we remember that shootout attempt against the Avs but just shrug off his goal during regulation that was genuinely ridiculous and elite level stuff. He's one of the very very few guys in the league that when he has an open shot from the top of the circles in, I'm surprised when it's not in the net. Matthews and maybe McDavid are the only other ones? Talking purely shots that flat out beat the goalie, not breakaways or dekes etc.

Unrelated but while we're talking about him, I feel like he's become a much better passer this year too.
 
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Just a little bit of context for some other stars in 3x3 the past 2 seasons. Goals for - Goals Against.

McDavid 3-2
Draisaitl 3-3
Crosby 1-5
Matthews: 5-7
MacKinnon: 4-2
Panarin 4-5

It's a crap shoot. Other than Crosby(?) everyone's a goal or two on either side of break even.
 

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And I think everyone tends to remember the failures and take for granted the ridiculous things he does, as is human nature. Aka we remember that shootout attempt against the Avs but just shrug off his goal during regulation that was genuinely ridiculous and elite level stuff.
The reason people might do this is because the ridiculous goal was against the Coyotes, not the Avs. Sigh I'm an idiot.
 

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Yeah this is well said. And I think everyone tends to remember the failures and take for granted the ridiculous things he does, as is human nature. Aka we remember that shootout attempt against the Avs but just shrug off his goal during regulation that was genuinely ridiculous and elite level stuff. He's one of the very very few guys in the league that when he has an open shot from the top of the circles in, I'm surprised when it's not in the net. Matthews and maybe McDavid are the only other ones? Talking purely shots that flat out beat the goalie, not breakaways or dekes etc.

Unrelated but while we're talking about him, I feel like he's become a much better passer this year too.
Some good clips of his passing in this mix.

View: https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/1745158739592949776?s=20
 

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That's absurd that it's all from half of a season too. My word.
 

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I don’t agree with the posters talking about benching the Bruins’ best goal scorer and one of their faster skaters in 3-3 OT of all situations, and I don’t know what you’re seeing in Twitter, but he’s allowed to be awesome and otherworldly and still do lazy things from time to time. He’s not been homogenized. Ovechkin has 830 goals, hits the bejesus out of people, and still has done meme-ably lazy things from time to time. Pasta gets careless and mentally fucked sometimes, possibly because there are occasions in which he does something so ridiculously insane that he tries stuff with a relatively lower degree of likelihood of success, often when he’s moving more slowly.
 

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Everyone on the ice was pissed last night was visibly pissed at how that finished, and it really didn’t just seem to be about making a bad physical play.