Also can we stop the “he did nothing” line because they didn’t make a move TODAY? They got rid of Kiké and added a couple arms. Maybe Wong comes in.
Trade Deadline Approach
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Yup, my bad quoting the incorrect Tweet earlier.
View: https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1686497389559889920
And what if they don't? Counting on a miracle where guys come back from significant injuries and are in top form is a losing bet.
Or, and bear with me here, he thinks that a team that is soon to add 2-4 solid MLB players for free, and is only 2 games out of a playoff spot, has a pretty good chance at the playoffs without giving up future assets.
I’m okay with standing still considering the outrageous price tags involved. This was always a bridge year and I’m happy that we are getting some guys back soon that could propel us to the playoffs.
Guys who are literally playing baseball tonight? But it’ll be a miracle if they continue playing baseball?
Yeah. The Mets deals for Scherzer and Verlander were really wacked to begin with. Scherzer had his chance last year to win against the Braves to get a first round bye and the NL east title and he whiffed.
Didnt you all feel like Verlander was definitely going yo the Astros!? Geez. The Mets basically paid for Houston to re-sign Verlander…(after a few month vacation in Flushing).
Really? Dumping Kike may be addition by subtraction, but they were going to release him anyway. The roster crunch was pretty obvious and he got two arms that weren't brought to the majors. He also got Llovera. How did that work in SF?
White Sox are a shitshow. They were willing to trade everything but the pieces that people would actually want.
All I know is that neither the Splendid Splinter, Yaz, or Tony C. are walking through that door.
And where they fit into the current roster. Someone has to go. You can't just add a 10th hitter to the lineup.
I love that people are hanging their hat on a literal interpretation of "doing nothing". Solid point to argue.
Sale is broken waiting to happen. Whitlock was only great when he was handled with kid gloves in his first year with the Sox. Feel free to continue to defend Bloom, but counting on guys that haven't been there all year, can't stay on the field, or get lit the third time through the order isn't having a bunch of all stars coming to save the day.
You've got a pretty good team here. One that nobody would want to face in the playoffs. The window is opening. Trading a bunch of prospects may make it more likely to win this year while shortening the window. Trading for a bunch of prospects may make it less likely to win this year while lengthening the window. Not doing other means you have a decent chance of having a fun postseason run while not fucking with the window.
It's really not hard to understand. Things are going pretty well. Staying the course is not a bad option.
We can revisit if it’s a losing bet in a couple months. Kyle Schwarber hadn’t played for a month when we acquired him in 2021. Guys can and do recover from injury.
I mentioned this the other day, but a Paxton trade never really made much sense because of the lost QO.
As a team under the threshold, the Red Sox would get a pick at the end of the 2nd round if Paxton signs elsewhere, meaning that another team would have to give them more than the value to the Red Sox this season + the value of the QO, which would mean the other team would have to place a much higher value on the next couple months of Paxton than us.
As a team under the threshold, the Red Sox would get a pick at the end of the 2nd round if Paxton signs elsewhere, meaning that another team would have to give them more than the value to the Red Sox this season + the value of the QO, which would mean the other team would have to place a much higher value on the next couple months of Paxton than us.
it’s been reported by numerous sources (Ken Rosenthal being one) that the Sox could have got a premium return for Paxton.
Chaim chose to keep him. I’m not arguing whether that’s right or wrong but they could have got a large return for Paxton (my guess is that it would have been incredibly similar to Verlander)
Exact quote from Rosenthal “ "The big question revolves around James Paxton, they could get a premium package in return, but the Red Sox would need to replace him somehow."
It's so easy to understand no one was arguing for this approach before it happened.
Seriously? Llovera pitched two shutout innings on Saturday. He was out there again on Sunday simply because there was no one else available. Leaving a ton of men on base was the bigger cause for that loss, yes?
If we make it to October, I like “don’t fuck with the window” as our postseason slogan a la “do damage” in 2018.
Do you have any Intel on offers that he's made or offers that have been extended to him?
Sounds complicated to try to get a premium for one player only to turn around and trade a premium for a new player.
Tom Verducci just said the Sox don’t need to do anything About 30 mins ago. For all the reasons stated in this thread.
Absolutely, and there would be a lot of moving pieces…but your original point was that Verlander had way more value than Paxton because of control no? I am simply pointing out that with the information available to us that that is incorrect
I've been saying it's a reasonable option for a couple weeks.
The thing is, there's reasonable arguments to be made for all of the arguments and the only way to know which is the best is to know the details of specific offers and we don't know the details.
We can only speak to what actually happened rather than media reports. We’ve also seen rental starters go for guys deeper on prospect lists. Paxton has been great so probably it would be somewhere in between that and the Verlander haul.
Right. But that never stops the “just do something” crowd from screaming because they are bored.
