The lineup mismanagement and poor use of the bullpen shouldn't matter to the Nats since they won't be competing any time soon. But yeah Cora's performance this year has been questionable.Think Washington would take Cora in a deal for Soto?
Can they package Chaim and Bobby with it?Think Washington would take Cora in a deal for Soto?
If this team is going nowhere why would Xander hang around if he can get another shot at a ring? Assuming JD is back in the lineup soon he holds some value and Vaz also holds some value.Again, for everyone saying sell, what are you selling? Xander has a no trade clause. Devers is their only good young player. Everyone else is either old, injured, or just plain sucks.
If the season is done who cares who starts.Who starts if they trade Vásquez? Wong? Plawecki? Neither is a good option.
He gets to control where he goes, which narrows the amount of bidders, making the return worse.If this team is going nowhere why would Xander hang around if he can get another shot at a ring? Assuming JD is back in the lineup soon he holds some value and Vaz also holds some value.
Tonight's performance notwithstanding, I think Eovaldi has value.Again, for everyone saying sell, what are you selling? Xander has a no trade clause. Devers is their only good young player. Everyone else is either old, injured, or just plain sucks.
If they are trading CVaz, then it is an indication that they are looking to assess how good or bad their internal options (Wong, Hernandez) are. Not trading free agents when the team is not good enough to compete for a playoff spot is not a good option, either.Who starts if they trade Vásquez? Wong? Plawecki? Neither is a good option.
I am going to aasume that the teams interested in X are going to be contenders. There is a good chance X doesn't much care where he plays for half a season as long as it is a contender.He gets to control where he goes, which narrows the amount of bidders, making the return worse.
He's been getting clobbered since coming back from the IL, his velocity is down from where it was. Who's going to give us value for that?Tonight's performance notwithstanding, I think Eovaldi has value.
He's made two starts, so I guess we can wait a couple more to see if suddenly this is his new normal.He's been getting clobbered since coming back from the IL, his velocity is down from where it was. Who's going to give us value for that?
I am going to assume that speculating about his mindset is worthless.I am going to aasume that the teams interested in X are going to be contenders. There is a good chance X doesn't much care where he plays for half a season as long as it is a contender.
Speculation is about 90 percent of what goes on in this board. It is part of what makes being a fan of a sports team fun.I am going to assume that speculating about his mindset is worthless.
That said, it would be interesting to know what happens to his opt-outs if he does accept a trade
Fun for those of us who don't have to wade through it while looking for news or actual insight.Speculation is about 90 percent of what goes on in this board. It is part of what makes being a fan of a sports team fun.
You must really hate this board then.Fun for those of us who don't have to wade through it while looking for news or actual insight.
This is something that is brought up occasionally, and I'm a little surprised isn't brought up more. If they decide over the next week that they are sellers, I wouldn't be outrageously surprised if they were able to convince Xander to waive his NTC to certain teams. It would definitely make the offseason better for him, and it would guarantee the Sox get something in return, even if that return is maybe 75 cents on the dollar due to Xander being able to narrow down his destinations.If Xander is traded in season there is no draft pick compensation. He should definitely accept a trade to enhance his free agent market.
No, there's good stuff here. But there's a lot of inanity.You must really hate this board then.
Who starts if they trade Vásquez? Wong? Plawecki? Neither is a good option.
Is useless.If the season is done who cares who starts.
There are tons if post listing who could potentially available in a trade. One can list those players that would be available due to their impending free agency without writing an entire dissertation. As for who replaces the players once they get traded, who cares. Anybody will do since the season is overNo, there's good stuff here. But there's a lot of inanity.
I think your speculation would improve if you put on your imaginary GM hat and considered the constraints:
1) You have to field a moderately competitive team, otherwise you're going to demotivate players, discourage free agents, and lose revenue.1a) The team is synergistic, and players are not infinitely fungible. So you can't have a shortstop who can't field, or a 1b who can't catch, without massive compensation elsewhere.2) You want to maximize value - trading less certain future-value for more solid now-value.3) Punting to a certain extent is acceptable in a losing year, but you can't blindly do so. There has to be a plan in place for next year, and ideally the year or two after.
So, stuff like this:
Is useless.
Do better.
A lot of kids are up but Casas is the big one. Wong and Downs can help fill in any gaps left by players who are tradedWho are the kids people would call up for the rest of the season? Who are the kids people call up if they trade them all away for Soto?
Trade away the kids, lets see what the kids got for the rest of the year. They aren't really inclusive. Unless you want to see what they can do in Washington uniforms.
So what did your post do but help obscure them?There are tons if post listing who could potentially available in a trade. One can list those players that would be available due to their impending free agency without writing an entire dissertation. As for who replaces the players once they get traded, who cares. Anybody will do since the season is over
You mean the post that answer who I think has value and could be available? The same post that I responded to a concern about Xander's NTC? I guess if a person has reading difficulties it could be considered obscure.So what did your post do but help obscure them?
Which was my first point.
If the Sox are tanking they don't need to fill every position with a viable major leaguer. They have an entire off season to figure out how to put a viable major leaguer in that position.Downs shouldn’t be up; he’s not ready. Casas is really the only “kid” ready to be called up; there isn’t anyone else. That’s the challenge with trading anyone away. The team really needs major league ready players back, but what they have to deal seems unlikely to return that. I guess it could be worthwhile to get Wong / Hernandez some playing time and hope one could at least be the backup next year? But trade away the expiring contracts and you are very likely going to be putting out a really embarrassing product for the final few months of the season.
Oh yeah, definitely looking forward to watching Downs play for another 60 games. Groan...A lot of kids are up but Casas is the big one. Wong and Downs can help fill in any gaps left by players who are traded
I agree with that. But if you trade Boagerts, JD, Vaz, Eovaldi, etc for lower level minor leaguers (which seems to be the most likely return) and replace them with the available options as of now, it’s going to be a long final two months. Maybe that doesn’t matter, but it probably isn’t appealing to ownership. I imagine they will be looking for major league talent back (similar to when they dealt Lester, Lackey, etc. back in the day).If the Sox are tanking they don't need to fill every position with a viable major leaguer. They have an entire off season to figure out how to put a viable major leaguer in that position.
That is actually a good point. Unless the Sox are interested in resigning Vaz or signing Contreras, the pickings are slim at catcher this offseason. Trade seems to be the route to go to fulfill that particular need. I think that if the Sox sell Bloom is going to aquire a mixture of prospects and vets. Guys like Downs might get more at bats then we would like, but I think a lot of holes will be filled via the trades Bloom makes.I agree with that. But if you trade Boagerts, JD, Vaz, Eovaldi, etc for lower level minor leaguers (which seems to be the most likely return) and replace them with the available options as of now, it’s going to be a long final two months. Maybe that doesn’t matter, but it probably isn’t appealing to ownership. I imagine they will be looking for major league talent back (similar to when they dealt Lester, Lackey, etc. back in the day).
Again, though, which "contender" would bother giving up prospects for 2 months of Bogaerts? None of them need a SS, really this year or next.Trade away as many pieces as you can now and bring up the kids for the rest of the season. If Xander waives his NTC, a contender will be very interested and he’s more valuable when looking for offers in FA as no pick is handcuffed to him. We should definitely be making a solid offer as well. Give him a shot at a ring and try hard to bring him back. If he signs elsewhere, it is what it is.
Philadelphia is the closest to this situationAgain, though, which "contender" would bother giving up prospects for 2 months of Bogaerts? None of them need a SS, really this year or next.
Vaz has been a real bright spot this season and the catcher market is pretty grim. I’d do this in a second.I know nobody is a huge Vaz fan, but if he’d sign a 2 year deal at the AAV he makes now, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world and would be one less thing to worry about on the off-season.
SF and SD seem like possibilities too.Philadelphia is the closest to this situation
Fair. I missed them completely in my research at 1 AM, so that's my bad.Philadelphia is the closest to this situation
Fair. I missed them completely in my research at 1 AM, so that's my bad.
Until you guys write a lineup in the twilight, let me know.
What do they have besides Mick Abel?Philadelphia is the closest to this situation
I'm not sure I agree on these. It doesn't look like Crawford will be out too long, and the Giants (and their fans) still love his defense at SS.SF and SD seem like possibilities too.
Vierling seems like the type of guy the Sox could be interested in.What do they have besides Mick Abel?
I'd kill to add Logan O'Hoppe to the organization, but with Realmuto being on the wrong side of old I can't imagine Philly moves him.What do they have besides Mick Abel?
Padres have a pretty good shortstop due off the IL at some point soon. I agree about the Giants but it might be awkward for Brandon Crawford.SF and SD seem like possibilities too.