thought you have to be under center for it to work?He'd probably be under pressure, and it would be called intentional grounding.
edit: I do wonder if a holder could spike the ball immediately if it's not a clean snap, assuming there are no defenders near. There must be a special rule regarding spikes.
Yes you do.thought you have to be under center for it to work?
I haven't read the last few pages but Brady needing just a FG with 1:18 left and the ball? I seriously believe the vast majority of this forum and the NFL viewing public thought it was a lock for Tampa to score.
The only suspense was whether or not one of the skill players would fumble the ball away (or volleyball pass it away for an interception).I haven't read the last few pages but Brady needing just a FG with 1:18 left and the ball? I seriously believe the vast majority of this forum and the NFL viewing public knew how that would end.
Because Jules is right.
I thought that was ridiculous when I heard it too, but then I still occasionally think about Mike Vanderjagt missing the game-tying fg in week 1, 2004. Oh well.Lol Collinsworth... people are definitely gonna remember a week 1 regular season kick for years to come
Indeed.The only suspense was whether or not one of the skill players would fumble the ball away (or volleyball pass it away for an interception).
He didnt dunk on me. I love the man unconditionally.
That was a thing of beauty! 65 yards with a hard turn on impact. IncredibleI still can't get over that Tampa Bay punt at the start of the game.
He’s an absolute God to me. I’ll root for him in almost every single thing he does in lifeI love watching TB12 succeed. He’s given me and my boys so many lasting, fun memories. I will 100% always root for him (except week 4 this year). I told my son tonight he is the goat of goats. I’m not sure I’m wrong.
Cheers to that my friend.He’s an absolute God to me. I’ll root for him in almost every single thing he does in life
This is a pretty odd post. Out of the Top 50 TV shows by ratings last year, 49 of them were NFL games.We argue about almost everything here but can we at least agree that the NFL is the king of all sports professional and amateur.
Once the QB is outside the tackle box, he can throw where ever he wants.The bolded part gets ignored all the time on the sideline 10th row back bailout throws...
Not a shocker. Broadcast TV is dead, football is the only thing that's left.This is a pretty odd post. Out of the Top 50 TV shows by ratings last year, 49 of them were NFL games.
Who could ever argue otherwise?
Broadcast TV is very profitable. It is not dead and it will never be dead. What is dead can never die, I guess.Not a shocker. Broadcast TV is dead, football is the only thing that's left.
That's...what he was saying?This is a pretty odd post. Out of the Top 50 TV shows by ratings last year, 49 of them were NFL games.
Who could ever argue otherwise?
That's. . . .not what was said. He said, "Can we agree that the NFL is the king?"That's...what he was saying?
QBR is the stupidest stat ever...that is how.How did Brady have a QBR 10 points lower than Dak's if neither guy was at fault for their interceptions, Brady suffered with more drops and actually came through in the clutch? Their counting stats were very similar as well. Kinda strange.
And we’ve seen it ignored plenty of times in games where they weren’t outside the tackle box.Once the QB is outside the tackle box, he can throw where ever he wants.
Vita Vea, though. That dude can create awesome pressure right up the middle. What a force.The Bucs have once again shown they have the offensive talent and elite QB play needed to beat any team, but that defense runs hot and cold and their lack of discipline both in terms of penalties and making dumb plays is a concern. If they clean it up, they'll contend again, if not, an early playoff exit is in their future.
I first thought you were talking about throws when the QB is near the sideline, which are always outside the tackle box.And we’ve seen it ignored plenty of times in games where they weren’t outside the tackle box.
Let’s not ignore reality. There are plenty of times, in tackle box, with pressure coming that QBs will sail a ball 10- 20 feet over players heads to the sideline that can never satisfy “a realistic chance of a completion” unless an NFL player suddenly became super human.
Lol Collinsworth... people are definitely gonna remember a week 1 regular season kick for years to come
Had the same thought - I'll never forget that miss.I thought that was ridiculous when I heard it too, but then I still occasionally think about Mike Vanderjagt missing the game-tying fg in week 1, 2004. Oh well.
That entire D-Line is ridiculous, but they have to wreak havoc for that defense to work against the pass. They'll still be incredibly tough to run against, but if I'm Todd Bowles I'm expecting teams to attack me with quick short passes to the perimeter all game long from here on out. The Cowboys had an awesome offensive game plan.Vita Vea, though. That dude can create awesome pressure right up the middle. What a force.
I remember Manning getting sacked, but I totally forgot about the huge pass to start off that drive. How the hell does Stokley not score here? Blame for that miss can really be passed around evenly to Vanderjagt, Manning (12 yard sack, yikes) and Stokley.Had the same thought - I'll never forget that miss.
Enjoy. 2:10:15 mark
View: https://youtu.be/ZIItLDH2vvI?t=7990
He ran out of scrapiness at the last second.I remember Manning getting sacked, but I totally forgot about the huge pass to start off that drive. How the hell does Stokley not score here? Blame for that miss can really be passed around evenly to Vanderjagt, Manning (12 yard sack, yikes) and Stokley.
One thing defensive back are doing more of is exaggerating reactions to contact in attempts to draw calls. I think it could have gone either way last night, but defensive-back "flopping" is going to be a thing this yearI just watched the play again. How that wasn't called OPI is beyond me. It was still a great game but man, it sucks when the refs basically decide the outcome.
I don't want to try to guess how that play was graded, but I will say that the NFL has made OPI a point of emphasis this year as they feel it is a call that have often been missed in the past. I'd think that they would have been pretty happy with a flag there.
That being said, the official directly watching that play is Tom Hill, who is probably the best official currently working in the NFL. Working a conference championship is a disappointing season for that guy.
Can you tell me how, exactly, the ref in question could have chosen not to "decide the outcome" there? He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't - all he can do is make the call he thinks is right, period.It was still a great game but man, it sucks when the refs basically decide the outcome.
Sorry to be late, but you’re signing up for espn+ to get to listen to Kellerman?Good to know. I'll sign up for ESPN+ now.
Paging the Todd Bowles defense. Where are you ?
I'm pretty sure I had this question in an undergrad logistics class.Can you tell me how, exactly, the ref in question could have chosen not to "decide the outcome" there? He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't - all he can do is make the call he thinks is right, period.
I don’t think he ever actually threw him under the bus for a missed kick. I think he threw him under the bus for some comments he made. “Idiot kicker liquored up” comes to mind.Was that Vanderjagt FG attempt the one that Manning threw him under the bus for? I don't think it was, but watching that sack by McGinest reminds me of what a TERRIBLE, unforgivable job Peyton did there - poor awareness before and/or AFTER the snap.
It was that atrocious call in the saints-rams nfc championship game. They allowed PI challenges, then saw that it was a clusterfuck because coaches would challenge a play and there would be barely any contact but would, by rule, be PI. So teams started getting called for PI on plays they never would have been called for before, so they got rid of the rule because it sucks. I still think the solution is an additional ref watching from up top who can call in and tell them they fucked it up, or they can initiate a review. This one wasn’t very egregious at all though, pretty frequently that doesn’t get calledWasn't it a PI no-call at the end of a game a couple of years back that led to coaches being permitted to challenge PI no-calls? And yet, you still can't challenge one when it matters the most? GJGE, NFL.
If the official calls the play by the rules then he isn't deciding the game the rulebook is, if he ignores it because "it's a big moment so I shouldn't make a call" then he's deciding the outcome himselfCan you tell me how, exactly, the ref in question could have chosen not to "decide the outcome" there? He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't - all he can do is make the call he thinks is right, period.