Yo- explain this please.Offsides is the worst rule in hockey. Blue lines don't matter...
Yo- explain this please.Offsides is the worst rule in hockey. Blue lines don't matter...
It's kind of heretical, but I think hockey would be better with no blue lines, and no offsides rule.Yo- explain this please.
I gathered that...I was hoping for an explanation for this belief.It's kind of heretical, but I think hockey would be better with no blue lines, and no offsides rule.
Was 94 the season where you could create your own players? If so, that's where Lupe Whalewatch was born.Because that's how I used to play it in NHL 94 and I scored like 1000 goals with Ray Bourque in that game and that was awesome
I think there'd be more room on the ice for skating and passing, and would be a more enjoyable game. Players have gotten bigger and faster and the ice is still the same size. The blue lines artificially compress all the players into 1/3 of the ice. That makes it difficult transitioning between the three zones. There would be a lot less dumping and chasing, IMO, teams could be more creative in how they move the puck into the offensive half.I gathered that...I was hoping for an explanation for this belief.
Yeah my first thought is that it wouldn't work because linesmen wouldn't be in position to see it and would make stuff in the offensive zone a nightmare.Perhaps a soccer-atyle offsides where offensive players cannot get ahead of the defenders until the puck does would cut down on home run passes and mitigate the need for D to sag back.
Doesn't solve the refereeing issues (actually worsens them with no fixed line) or the potential for the game to end up a 4 corners possession game.
It's because teams are too good and guys are too fast. So teams would get way too many scoring chances playing 5 on 4, plus when you do spring the hanger he'll be starting from a relative standstill so guys will likely be able to catch him from behind if they are moving and can get a head start. Teams will also adjust and drop a D man back on the hanger, leaving it 4 on 4 in the D zone which favors the offense since there is more space.I am surprised that with the elimination of the two-line offsides, no team has experimented with extreme garbage hanging. By which I mean, leave your best shooter down around your opponent’s blue line and play 4v5 in your own end (ie shorthanded) but with the ability to dump a puck out of your own end to a waiting — and wide open — teammate.
I really just want to cut down on stoppages as continuous stretches of play are almost always the best hockey. Eliminating or making a big change to the offsides rules is probably too much, though.Yeah my first thought is that it wouldn't work because linesmen wouldn't be in position to see it and would make stuff in the offensive zone a nightmare.
While I like the idea behind it all, I feel like it fundamentally changes the game too much and would create a lot of unintended consequences (especially the 4 corners offense) that it wouldn't be a net positive.
This is a beer league move -- and a good one when down a goal -- where puck possession is inconsistent enough that playing "down" 5v4 is worth the risk, especially because there is often greater variance in the speed of players so you can really stick a poacher out there who can make this work on the dump. In the NHL, not so much. Everyone is too fast and the risk/reward is skewed toward the team with five players and possession.I am surprised that with the elimination of the two-line offsides, no team has experimented with extreme garbage hanging. By which I mean, leave your best shooter down around your opponent’s blue line and play 4v5 in your own end (ie shorthanded) but with the ability to dump a puck out of your own end to a waiting — and wide open — teammate.
That’s essentially getting rid of offsides but adding a “three line pass” rule, which I think is a great idea.International rink size gets my vote.
The tweak I find most interesting is allowing players into offensive zone as long as the puck is across the red line or even in just in the neutral zone.
Ironically, soccer needs a blue line. There is something perverse about a player getting caught in an offsides trap in the flow of the game, 10 meters from the goal. But you can't do away with offsides altogether in soccer, in essence, for the same reason you can't in hockey -- just booting the ball 90 meters to a poacher is no fun either.The sport that needs to get rid of its offsides rule is soccer. That is one dull sport. Allow offensive players to get ahead of the defense for passes, that would be something.
In ice hockey, the need is much less pronounced. The game is super exciting as it is. What, exactly, are you trying to fix?
It's so weird that people want to turn every sport into soccer, which is just a dreadful sport to watch. If anything, soccer needs to adopt rules from other sports to get better. As someone else mentioned later, soccer needs to adopt a blue line/hockey style offsides rule. Right now the soccer offsides rule is the second dumbest rule in all of sports.Perhaps a soccer-atyle offsides where offensive players cannot get ahead of the defenders until the puck does would cut down on home run passes and mitigate the need for D to sag back.
Doesn't solve the refereeing issues (actually worsens them with no fixed line) or the potential for the game to end up a 4 corners possession game.
Yeah, we sorta covered that later in the thread. I agree it wouldn't work well to remove the blue line and use a soccer offsides rule because, as TFP pointed out, it would be too hard for the refs.It's so weird that people want to turn every sport into soccer, which is just a dreadful sport to watch. If anything, soccer needs to adopt rules from other sports to get better. As someone else mentioned later, soccer needs to adopt a blue line/hockey style offsides rule. Right now the soccer offsides rule is the second dumbest rule in all of sports.
They kinda have one. You can't be offside in your own half of the field, so if the defense comes too far forward, a player can run behind and get on the end of a long pass and still be onside. You see it occasionally when a team throws everyone forward in search of a tying goal late.As someone else mentioned later, soccer needs to adopt a blue line/hockey style offsides rule. Right now the soccer offsides rule is the second dumbest rule in all of sports.