It’s only one 1st.It’s tough to argue that isn’t an upgrade, and at a cost I don’t think they’ll regret. I don’t love giving up the 2st, but I do love getting out of Beleskeys deal.
Official verdict is that I don’t love it, I don’t hate it.
Is a 2st worse than a 1st but better than a 2nd? I hate giving those up too.It’s tough to argue that isn’t an upgrade, and at a cost I don’t think they’ll regret. I don’t love giving up the 2st, but I do love getting out of Beleskeys deal.
Official verdict is that I don’t love it, I don’t hate it.
It’s only one 1st.
Dammit that’s what I get for typing on my phone.Is a 2st worse than a 1st but better than a 2nd? I hate giving those up too.
They could still do a deal for a top 4 D but now you’ll be trading guys off the NHL roster you don’t want to give up. I’m not into trading a 2019 1st either.I don’t hate the trade, but I still think the bigger need by far as a top-4 defenceman to take some pressure off Carlo. Not that they can’t in the off-season (they didn’t sell the farm at all here), but getting an upgrade on Carlo on the 2nd pair, which allows him to become an upgrade over McQuaid/Miller/Holden/Postma on the 3rd pair, solves a bunch of the team’s problems that have sprung up in the last few weeks. And yes, I’m aware those “problems” are small potatoes compared to teams like the Hurricanes, Islanders, Rangers, etc., but they have a chance at a pretty damn big window if they do things right.
Unless they trade for Karlsson. I'd give up almost anything for him. Bergy, Pasta and McEvoy are off limits, but anyone else is fair game.They could still do a deal for a top 4 D but now you’ll be trading guys off the NHL roster you don’t want to give up. I’m not into trading a 2019 1st either.
If Sweeney could pull off Karlsson, I’d do backflips.Unless they trade for Karlsson. I'd give up almost anything for him. Bergy, Pasta and McEvoy are off limits, but anyone else is fair game.
That’s my point, though. Once they got Rick Nash, that ended any pursuit of McDonagh by default. Clearly they like their defence way more than I do, and they get paid to make these decisions, but I just never thought the top 6 needed the kind of work bringing in Nash says they did.They could still do a deal for a top 4 D but now you’ll be trading guys off the NHL roster you don’t want to give up. I’m not into trading a 2019 1st either.
I think that's part of the thinking with trading Lindgren as well. The Finnish guy, Vantavienanananemananeauuuuenenene is basically a Finnish Lindgren as a stay at home defenseman. I also feel Charla-McAvoy, Carlo-Krug, Miller-Gryz can win a championship. Part of their defense being shaky was playing McQuaid. Not having to do that should help, and that defense was what they had during their crazy run earlier.That’s my point, though. Once they got Rick Nash, that ended any pursuit of McDonagh by default. Clearly they like their defence way more than I do, and they get paid to make these decisions, but I just never thought the top 6 needed the kind of work bringing in Nash says they did.
Some part of me wonders if they think Lauzon and Zboril are so close to cracking the Bruins’ roster that they’d rather not block them.
I am not as convinced. I wouldn't be surprised if both stayed with their respective teams and then dealt closer to the draft, If they are moved at all.Someone's going to get Karlsson and McDonough at the deadline. I hope it's not Tampa or Toronto.
That's my guess too.I’d guess the B’s get Gionta signed and that will be it.
Just hope they don't trade Brady or Gronk.I think it is a fantastic trade. Spooner and a 1st for Nash — you do that all day long. The bonus is dumping Beleskey’s contract. This makes the Krejci line dangerous.
I’m okay with them sitting tight at this point. I don’t want to too much off the NFL roster that it would take to get OEL or McDonagh. This team can compete for a championship as constituted, and they are set up really well for the future.
Nah, I'd probably get rid of that McEvoy guy. I mean who's even heard of him?Unless they trade for Karlsson. I'd give up almost anything for him. Bergy, Pasta and McEvoy are off limits, but anyone else is fair game.
Both Zboril and Lauzon are left shot D, and while it remains to be seen if they will turn into NHL players, they make unloading Lindgren a bit easier to take. Not giving up any of Bjork, JFK, Frederic, Donato, or Senyshyn is crazy though, I figured someone was getting pared away from that group (though maybe still will in a deal for another D)Lindgren is what he is. The Bruins have a deep prospect pool (even if LD is not a particular strength). Some of those prospects will not pan out. It’s fine to roll the dice on one of them for a GFIN move.
I also thought the B’s would be paying for 100% of Beleskey’s deal, so getting out from half of it is bananas. Spooner did seem to really turn it on this year, but we know he wasn’t being resigned. Besides, I actually thought Czarnik looked perfectly fine on the PP when he was up, and he was obviously pretty solid at even strength, so I’m not concerned.
Yes. I like this deal. The Bruins didn’t give up an A-list prospect or high-ceiling rookie & they strengthened the Krejci line.A lot to give up on a short term rental but to me, the second line has been their weakest link this year so this does address that. And it leaves no doubt that the B's are all in for this year so it should be a fun ride moving forward
Would you rather give Nash his next contract?Both Zboril and Lauzon are left shot D, and while it remains to be seen if they will turn into NHL players, they make unloading Lindgren a bit easier to take. Not giving up any of Bjork, JFK, Frederic, Donato, or Senyshyn is crazy though, I figured someone was getting pared away from that group (though maybe still will in a deal for another D)
Spooner has put it together, but all that means is next year he’d be more expensive than this season, and I wouldn’t want the Bruins to commit cap space to him, instead use that lineup spot to work in another kid.
Nope, want no part of Nash’s next contract. So, when talking about two players who won’t be here next year (him or Spooner - Spooner wasn’t getting a raise from the Bruins when they can start to work in more young players) Nash is the better player. The 1st is a hefty price to pay but the Bruins are going for it and prices are high right now. Lindgren was the cost of losing Beleskey’s cap hit.Would you rather give Nash his next contract?
He's going to get at least a 4 year deal. I hope it's not the Bruins, so it'll kind of suck not having that 1st or Spooner. If they make it far in the playoffs and he's a big part of that then it'll be worth it.
It was a lot to give up for a rental. Time will tell how that plays out.
I love youHas to be a pure rental IMO, and I’m fine with that.
The sum of the current deals (Holden, Nash) will open up 3 contract slots for the coming year.
Current outlook for next year with no signings and no more >1 year deals:
Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak
DeBrusk - Krejci - (empty)
Heinen - JFK - Backes
(empty) - Kuraly - Acciari
Bjork
Chara - McAvoy
Grzelcyk - Carlo
Krug - Miller
McQuaid
Rask
(empty)
Estimates for RFAs:
Kuraly: $800k AAV
Grzelcyk: $1.85m AAV
Roster commitment: $58.222m
Buyouts: $2.037m
Retained: $1.9m (becomes $633k if the Rags buyout Beleskey)
Total: $62.159m
Estimated performance bonus overage for the yutes: ~$3m
Leaves about $12m assuming a $77m cap to re-sign Riley Nash or promote a 3C (got JFK in there now), get a 2W or roll Bjork there, re-sign Schaller or promote a 4LW, re-sign Khudobin or bring in a 2G (or bump McIntyre), and re-sign Chara
Apologies for the formatting, on mobile
I don't know if they're necessarily going for it and if they are it would be dumb. They are playing above expectations and I think everyone would agree are probably a year or two early.Nope, want no part of Nash’s next contract. So, when talking about two players who won’t be here next year (him or Spooner - Spooner wasn’t getting a raise from the Bruins when they can start to work in more young players) Nash is the better player. The 1st is a hefty price to pay but the Bruins are going for it and prices are high right now. Lindgren was the cost of losing Beleskey’s cap hit.
Yes. Getting rid of half of Beleskey's cap room was a real plus. All things considered this is better than than Jagr deal in 2013/14.There was a very slim chance Spooner was back next year, so I don't think we'll be missing him. The 1st is a cost, but it'll likely be a low 1st and they've made a ton of first round selections in recent years, so it's a cost they can bear. Clearing Beleskeys cap space helps them more in the future to re-sign their guys coming up.
I'm good with this deal because it's not mortgaging the future, if anything it's helping the future by clearing Beleskey off the books while making them better this year. And they are much better today than they were last night.
I agree with not signing Nash long term. I'm out on that.
Agreed. I liked what I saw from him and that was about it on the Bruins tonight. I think once he and 46 start clicking it could be a hell of a line.He looked ok today.
He is so strong, and just pushes people around. Very impressive, and he is starting to adjust more to the system. As he gets more comfortable, he's just going to get better. I think he's going to love playing with Krejci.He’s been way better than I expected.
Yea I was thinking that too but with their cap situation it could be tough. I wouldn’t offer more than 2-3 years and like 4-4.5 per and I’m not sure he would that take that.Yeah, he seems custom fit for Krejci. Now I'm starting to get curious what he'd cost for an extension.