Twitter has reports of a black Lexus being loaded with boxes and bags. Implied that it is the Pitino-mobile.
There's no way that Jurich wouldn't have been fired anyway.You know....when you have to decide with to fire someone or lose your $1.4MM job...you gotta just stand your ground.
Not disagreeing with you, but it shows what a cesspool college athletics is that mere bribery, fraud and tax evasion is not really to be seen as a big deal. "At least Pitino wasn't protecting child molesters" doesn't seem like an adequate defense somehow.Since Penn State, then followed by Montana/Baylor/Vanderbilt (with reminders that Nebraska - and likely countless unnamed others, including Binghamton -- enabled similar criminals), I have trouble getting worked up over this. While there were different levels of "official" culpability in the various scandals, people acting with honor could have kept away the criminals away -- only to be fired and replaced by ones who would bring the criminals in.
I suppose there are victims here -- most likely the players who get rotten financial advice and/or get robbed from being able to trade off the scholarship for anything resembling a legit education/degree. But if they payoffs to players are six figures, that lessens the victimhood, in my mind. Other than state taxpayers, who end up on the hook for millions to the coaches, can anyone help me understand who has been seriously victimized?
I'm not saying the FBI shouldn't pursue fraud and go after these folks. I'm just thinking seeking out, welcoming, enabling and protecting racists, child molesters and other violent criminals is much, much worse than what's been alleged here. IOW, Art Briles has more to answer for than Chuck Person, in my mind.
Calipari isn't going down for penny ante stuff like this. He's going down in a blaze of hookers, blow, gangsters and millions in cash.Calipari has to be shitting himself right now, no way a guy that sleazy isn't involved in this.
The mess in Louisville or the NCAA as a whole?Yeah, Miller can get fired too. This is a rare opportunity to clean up the mess. I'm not holding my breath. The hangers-on and the guys caught red-handed will be painted as the villains and as outliers. Slick Rick might end up a sacrificial lamb due to his extensive list of priors but he'll just resurface as "respected" analyst in a few years (see Valvano, James). I'd love to be wrong.
The reigning NCAA basketball champions are from a university that enabled a 20+ year academic fraud of almost incomprehensible proportions for the sole purpose of keeping athletes eligible.Since Penn State, then followed by Montana/Baylor/Vanderbilt (with reminders that Nebraska - and likely countless unnamed others, including Binghamton -- enabled similar criminals), I have trouble getting worked up over this. While there were different levels of "official" culpability in the various scandals, people acting with honor could have kept away the criminals away -- only to be fired and replaced by ones who would bring the criminals in.
I suppose there are victims here -- most likely the players who get rotten financial advice and/or get robbed from being able to trade off the scholarship for anything resembling a legit education/degree. But if the payoffs to players are six figures, that lessens the victimhood, in my mind. Other than state taxpayers, who end up on the hook for millions to the coaches, can anyone help me understand who has been seriously victimized?
I'm not saying the FBI shouldn't pursue fraud and go after these folks. I'm just thinking seeking out, welcoming, enabling and protecting rapists, child molesters and other violent criminals is much, much worse than what's been alleged here. IOW, Art Briles has more to answer for than Chuck Person, in my mind.
The victims are the hard working, clean nosed programs like Duke who, despite having to play a bunch of cheaters, still manage to win championship after championship. One can only imagine that Duke would have surpassed UCLA if not having to play teams that cheat so much - Duke lost to Arizona and Louisville deep in the NCAA tournament in just the past few years. Add in the fact that Duke has been forced to play a team that had completely made up fake classes for their athletes for two decades (20 years!), 2x a year (usually beating them, but still), and it really is an incredible testament to the integrity and brilliance of Coach K!!I suppose there are victims here
Oh, the NCAA as a whole (see the previous two posts). Even Roy and Coach K ought to be a little concerned about all of this...The mess in Louisville or the NCAA as a whole?
This....this is how a proper gentleman trolls.The victims are the hard working, clean nosed programs like Duke who, despite having to play a bunch of cheaters, still manage to win championship after championship. One can only imagine that Duke would have surpassed UCLA if not having to play teams that cheat so much - Duke lost to Arizona and Louisville deep in the NCAA tournament in just the past few years. Add in the fact that Duke has been forced to play a team that had completely made up fake classes for their athletes for two decades (20 years!), 2x a year (usually beating them, but still), and it really is an incredible testament to the integrity and brilliance of Coach K!!
If Carolina is implicated in this, then they really suck at offering bribes to get the best recruits.Oh, the NCAA as a whole (see the previous two posts). Even Roy and Coach K ought to be a little concerned about all of this...
Darren HeitnerVerified account @DarrenHeitnerCalipari has to be shitting himself right now, no way a guy that sleazy isn't involved in this.
Maybe, maybe not.And signed with the only shoe company not yet implicated.
Isn't BC's sneaker partner Under Armour?Maybe, maybe not.
https://www.adidas-group.com/en/brands/reebok/
You're right, They did switch.Isn't BC's sneaker partner Under Armour?
You must have been, as the French say, "Le High" when you wrote this.The victims are the hard working, clean nosed programs like Duke who, despite having to play a bunch of cheaters, still manage to win championship after championship. One can only imagine that Duke would have surpassed UCLA if not having to play teams that cheat so much - Duke lost to Arizona and Louisville deep in the NCAA tournament in just the past few years. Add in the fact that Duke has been forced to play a team that had completely made up fake classes for their athletes for two decades (20 years!), 2x a year (usually beating them, but still), and it really is an incredible testament to the integrity and brilliance of Coach K!!
Nike apparently got subpoenaed today, so the amounts that Duke funneled to Tatum, Okafor and others through Nike to go to Duke should be available soon.The victims are the hard working, clean nosed programs like Duke who, despite having to play a bunch of cheaters, still manage to win championship after championship. One can only imagine that Duke would have surpassed UCLA if not having to play teams that cheat so much - Duke lost to Arizona and Louisville deep in the NCAA tournament in just the past few years. Add in the fact that Duke has been forced to play a team that had completely made up fake classes for their athletes for two decades (20 years!), 2x a year (usually beating them, but still), and it really is an incredible testament to the integrity and brilliance of Coach K!!
It's the next shoe to drop.Nike apparently got subpoenaed today, so the amounts that Duke funneled to Tatum, Okafor and others through Nike to go to Duke should be available soon.
School like Duke and Carolina do not need to have players funneled to them. Granted, Carolina's recruiting has been down since one rogue administrator and one rogue professor tried to bring the Women's Basketball Team and Football team down and several men's basketball players were accidentally enrolled in those courses but even during that time they've recruited well enough to go to back to back National Championships and win the last one.It's the next shoe to drop.
those are the second tier kids. can you imagine what the top flight kids are charging?I'm sure these five star kids are turning down $100k to go play for free at North Carolina or Duke because they respect Roy Williams and Coach K so much. Or whatever Duke and UNC (and Syracuse and UCLA and...) fans have to tell themselves right now.
Lolol. The ACC sold out the day they took Florida state. But without them, there would be no ACCLast thought for the moment - this was always the danger of the ACC getting in business with the Big East. Now you have second-tier programs cheating just to try to get a chance to taste the glory of Tobacco Road. Not good. Hurts the brand.
John Wall begged Coach Williams to bring him to NC even late in the process. All Roy would say is that he was a great kid but "the fit wasn't right."I'm sure these five star kids are turning down $100k to go play for free at North Carolina or Duke because they respect Roy Williams and Coach K so much. Or whatever Duke and UNC (and Syracuse and UCLA and...) fans have to tell themselves right now.
Since Bruce Pearl became the program’s head coach in 2014, the Tigers have enjoyed some of their best recruiting classes in school history. Pearl—who had been implicated in two separate recruiting scandals before he even got to Auburn—signed two five-star recruits—Mustapha Heron and Austin Wiley) in 2016—and his only 2018 recruit was E.J. Montgomery, another five-star player.
This morning, Montgomery formally decommited to the program, less than a week after making his commitment and one day after Auburn assistant coach Chuck Person was charged on six counts for allegedly accepting a series of bribes.
They aren't.those are the second tier kids. can you imagine what the top flight kids are charging?
i wonder if some of these kids are taking a pay cut to go professional.
Louisville and Arizona are second-tier programs?These are second-tier programs. Good, but not great programs. Probably to be expected since they are Adidas schools.
Absolutely.Louisville and Arizona are second-tier programs?
Louisville won the tourney four years ago. They are a major program.Absolutely.
That’s a ridiculously small tier.Absolutely.
Edit - the top tier is Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and Michigan State. All our Nike schools with the exception of Kansas (Adidas and recently I believe)
I think that's what makes it such an elite club.That’s a ridiculously small tier.