If Tatis ever plays again...The Padres are fucking insane. Guess Tatis is an OF.
I could live with Iggy, He had a pretty good season. Cora loves him.Bring on Elvis Andrus or Jose Iglesias to be a 2 year stop gap until Marcelo Mayer is ready.
Correa's 28. Considering what Turner and Xander netted in terms of length of contract, will the Red Sox be comfortable paying him until he's 38? Don't see it. 8 years, however? Absolutely. I also envision him moving to 3B seamlessly, as he has that thicker, AROD-type build. As a plus, he seems to have a feisty, chip-on-the-shoulder personality that you love -- if he's on your team.Correa please.
Not much you can do if some other team decides to go insane.
Sure but Correa is running out of suitors. I assume first team with big years to $36 million gets him since that would give him the highest salary among shortstops. 9/$326 would make him the highest paid shortstop ever and sounds almost reasonable right now.If they do turn to Correa, it will be for a contract larger than what Bogey got
Iggy had 144 hits last year and plays better defense.I could live with Iggy, He had a pretty good season. Cora loves him.
Giants, Twins, Cubs all linked to himSure but Correa is running out of suitors.
THIS. Disrespect your own homegrown players like this and this is what you deserve. Brutal.I would never pay him that. But let it be known, this is what happens when you fuck around and find out. You negotiate in bad faith, you low-ball your homegrown talent, this is what happens.
I use the operative "play", much like Dustin Pedroia was effectively done playing a number of years before he officially retired. The player will certainly collect the checks while rehabbing and attempting to come back, but that cycle could be far short of 11 years from now.Why aren't they going to play 11 years? When has a player ever retired leaving that much money on the table?
Pretty much.I'm happy he got paid and I'm happy we didn't offer an 11-year contract to a 30-yr old.
To get 11/280 Boras had to have a second team. Or at least give the appearance of a bidding war. I don’t think even Boras gets that deal unless there is significant interest from at least one other team in the mid 200s. Maybe a third team came forward. But I have to believe the Sox were in there with a number in the 200s or I just don’t see how the Padres can be leveraged to pay what they did,we'll never know for sure, but i wonder what the red sox final offer was
Martin and Jansen were just brought in on 2 year deals to bolster the pen, the team has taken a big step toward fixing some of the issues in the OF and your good with a stop gap at SS?Bring on Elvis Andrus or Jose Iglesias to be a 2 year stop gap until Marcelo Mayer is ready.
Yup.You offer him the Semien deal last offseason and I'm like 90% sure he would've signed. Now this.
Cubs and/or Giants?To get 11/280 Boras had to have a second team. Or at least give the appearance of a bidding war. I don’t think even Boras gets that deal unless there is significant interest from at least one other team in the mid 200s. Maybe a third team came forward. But I have to believe the Sox were in there with a number in the 200s or I just don’t see how the Padres can be leveraged to pay what they did,
I hope they don't. Just concentrate on Devers and wait on Mayers now. Bring on Iggy and his glove.If they do turn to Correa, it will be for a contract larger than what Bogey got
You thought they should beat $280?They couldn’t beat $280? Especially $25 AAV?
Wow
I may need a new username
Or, they’re just so bad the last few years they get released and paid anyways.I use the operative "play", much like Dustin Pedroia was effectively done playing a number of years before he officially retired. The player will certainly collect the checks while rehabbing and attempting to come back, but that cycle could be far short of 11 years from now.
Possible. Or maybe Boras really is just a wizard and got the Padres to go crazy and bid against themselves. The solace here is that whatever the Sox offered it wouldn’t have mattered.Cubs and/or Giants?
My basic accounting sucks, so what is the NPV on 280 mil over 11 years?As I said in the Trea Turner thread, neither player is going to play 11 years. This is a lifetime contract with the years serving to depress the real AAV. It's the total dollars (and NPV) that are most relevant, not years.
Certainly it should be: he's younger, a comparable batter and a better fielder.If they do turn to Correa, it will be for a contract larger than what Bogey got
This. It's time for the Front Office to capitulate and give the man his money.They better sign Devers.
I'm up for some more Iggy as a bridge to Mayer.Bring on Elvis Andrus or Jose Iglesias to be a 2 year stop gap until Marcelo Mayer is ready.
Where does he rank on the all-time Red Sox SS list? Top 5 in some order with Nomar, Cronin, Pesky, and Petrocelli?View: https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/1600725481107636225
Xander Bogaerts to sign long-term deal with Padres, marking end of one of the most impactful tenures in Red Sox history.
I mean they probably offered him something like 6-180 or 7-200, hard to be disapointed in that, no one saw this Padres offer coming, the Padres probably didn't even see it coming 24 hours ago when they were all in on Judge.I'd say my only disappointment from the Sox FO is their final offer was not $200 mil or slightly north. Buuuut it wouldn't have mattered, so whatever...
So our IF is Correa, Iglesias/Mayer, Story and Casas?Correa's 28. Considering what Turner and Xander netted in terms of length of contract, will the Red Sox be comfortable paying him until he's 38? Don't see it. 8 years, however? Absolutely. I also envision him moving to 3B seamlessly, as he has that thicker, AROD-type build. As a plus, he seems to have a feisty, chip-on-the-shoulder personality that you love -- if he's on your team.
I still think it's more likely that another organization acquiesces and gives up the decade-long contract to him, making Swanson a more reasonable addition.
This is what happens when you treat franchise players like names on a spreadsheet. Can’t wait for this team to lowball Casas & Mayer in 2030.You offer him the Semien deal last offseason and I'm like 90% sure he would've signed. Now this.
Iglesias grades as an average defensive shortstop at best these days. I don't think this is the route.I hope they don't. Just concentrate on Devers and wait on Mayers now. Bring on Iggy and his glove.
So teams should just accept they will have 25+ million for no production 10 years out? No matter how high the luxury tax line goes, that's rough businessAs I said in the Trea Turner thread, neither player is going to play 11 years. This is a lifetime contract with the years serving to depress the real AAV. It's the total dollars (and NPV) that are most relevant, not years.
That’s a big IF.So our IF is Correa, Iglesias/Mayer, Story and Casas?
Nomar number one. X-Man 2. I seen Rico the last 2 years, but by then he was a third base man. The other 2 were before my time, but my grandfather raved about Pesky.Where does he rank on the all-time Red Sox SS list? Top 5 in some order with Nomar, Cronin, Pesky, and Petrocelli?
Yeah. That’s a lot of money. Can’t even come close to taking that personally.Bummer but that's the business side of this.
Why are you so sure about that? He’s a Boras client, and in retrospect that would have been a terrible decision for X to make.You offer him the Semien deal last offseason and I'm like 90% sure he would've signed. Now this.
Yep. I don't really want any part of Correa unless it's a steep discount, which in this market....doesn't look promising.Bogey at 11 years is pretty insane. But I'd hate to see how Correa holds up physically, especially as a guy who has back issues, right? Or a history of back ailments?
I'd look at Swanson (within reason), but I think that, again, the front office did things in reverse order. You sign guys when you have the ability to sign them sure, but the bullpen pieces, especially Jansen look a little strange now that your all-star shortstop is gone, and a placeholder is possibly going to fill the void.