Not really. Too much variability in that LAL pick. They're the odds on favorite to land George right now, and there's too much chance that becomes the SAC pick. Ultimately, I think the SAC pick is probably worth more, but I don't think you deal Porzingis for #3, a rotation player, and a pick with risk associated with it.
This sounds right to me. I'd be fine offering 3, the LAL/SAC pick, and Jaylen for Porzingis, but I don't think that's enough to get it done. Change the LAL/SAC pick to the Nets pick, and I'd rather make the picks.
His contract is cheaper, but both he and Butler are under contract for 2 years. And there's a quote above from his brother saying he'll play out the contract and go to free agency if traded. Wouldn't that negate the youth and contract advantage?
Then you still get a 3rd cheap year at worst. Also if he turns into an All-NBA talent you have the DPE and can offer way more than anyone else
He wouldn't be eligible for the DPE. You have to have 8 years of service time and can't have switched teams.
Size, youth, and a lot of skills that look good when projecting forward. Only a handful of guys in NBA history with his shotblocking/three point range combination (Kirilenko, Josh Smith, Eddie Griffin). Basically, if he can improve his jumper a bit he will be a dominant player. Not a given that this will happen, but a reasonable risk to take.
Oh right. You're right on the switching teams thing. So long as you were traded during your first contract, you can still receive the DPE. But he won't have the service time.
But that assumes he doesn't sign a qualifying offer and reach FA before he's eligible service-time wise, which is the scenario you and I were discussing.
I mean, I agree that it couldn't hurt to offer this, but I don't think that offer is close. Phil is at least going to want a shot in 2018...probably on top of what you've offered here and that may not be enough.
I know we all think Phil is nuts and sucks as a GM, but their team finished 31-51 last year. He needs at least a mini-rebuild and to do that, needs some draft picks, IMO.
Why weren't they interested before?! Jokes aside, I'm torn on this so it depends on the price. Definitely a fan of Porzingis but potential injury issues would give me pause. If #3 and Lakers/Kings pick is the foundation along with Bradley/Crowder and lesser assets gets it done, I pull the trigger.
Right. Phil floats this in case someone like Danny temporarily loses his mind, but I don't think they were serious about moving him. Never hurts to listen.
Only thing it might do is drive a larger wedge between you and your franchise player but I guess Jackson doesn't care about that.
During Porzingis' next season, he will be as old as Raef was during his rookie season (and with hopefully fewer knee injuries).
the problem is, you are picking two stats/skills that aren't related to point out how unique the player might be, but this is a fruitless exercise. No offense. People do it with baseball players all the time (Player x just did thing a and thing b that only y players in history have done before at z age!!!). I'm not saying it isn't fun, but I don't think it's a good way to evaluate impact and ability.
How long do you hold out for in hopes that somebody like KAT or Davis becomes available though? What if they never become available and you have all these 1st round picks?
Moreover, in a summer where Butler, George and presumably Porzingis is available, there's quite a bit of pressure for Ainge to close on one of these. He's built a war chest and if these 3 went other places and he was left holding a bag of picks, the master plan would start to look a little sketchy.
I don't think one should hold out for them at all.
You think Butler or George would be far less? I don't. George less than Butler yes but it's for only 1 year at much more salary than Porzingis. KP was playing for a much worse team in the triangle offense. You stick KP in a free-flowing offense with a much better team around him and I think those scoring numbers go up significantly.
Man, I thought we broke that story a couple of hours ago. Maybe she's lurking here.
