Winter Meetings (Sox-specific)
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As a fellow resident of San Francisco, I agree with @DeJesus Built My Hotrod. The media reports are wildly exaggerated, and there are a lot of great reasons to live here.
Apologies. I made the "poop in the street" joke not thinking it would turn into a politics thread and yeah, there's not many cities in the US I'd rather live in.
I think it's more likely that $50M per year goes a little farther in Dallas TX than in SF as why SF may not be an "optimal" city to reside in for YY- or anyone.... But geez.... if you pay taxes (federal, state, local, etc....) on $50M you'll still be insanely rich. I doubt that a million per year difference in taxes is going to change where YY or Ohtani end up. I suspect for lower tier (you know.... the guys only making $12.5 per year or less may be a little more sore about taxes there than in Dallas). The biggest draw is going to be not just the highest AAV balanced against total value, but things like education for family, infrastructure, maybe they care about good art?, weather, proximity to friends and family. SF has got a lot of that for him
I think it's more likely that $50M per year goes a little farther in Dallas TX than in SF as why SF may not be an "optimal" city to reside in for YY- or anyone.... But geez.... if you pay taxes (federal, state, local, etc....) on $50M you'll still be insanely rich. I doubt that a million per year difference in taxes is going to change where YY or Ohtani end up. I suspect for lower tier (you know.... the guys only making $12.5 per year or less may be a little more sore about taxes there than in Dallas). The biggest draw is going to be not just the highest AAV balanced against total value, but things like education for family, infrastructure, maybe they care about good art?, weather, proximity to friends and family. SF has got a lot of that for him
https://twitter.com/maccerullo/status/1732128238690787666
Tweet from Mac Cerullo of the Boston Herald:
Alex Cora just spoke for 20 minutes. One notable highlight, he again pointed to Josh Winckowski as a guy who could be a factor in the starting rotation picture. Something to monitor in the spring for sure.
Tweet from Mac Cerullo of the Boston Herald:
Alex Cora just spoke for 20 minutes. One notable highlight, he again pointed to Josh Winckowski as a guy who could be a factor in the starting rotation picture. Something to monitor in the spring for sure.
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In the absence of significant acquisitions, this reminds me of the deadline acquisition in the form of a player coming back from the DL line that we have heard far too often.
I knew it was something close to "Go Friggin' all IN" but knew it wasn't quite right... ty for the info!
Yeah, he is the absolute must have. I don't think Lugo would be as good as Paxton was before the last few weeks of the season. Sox need a couple of starters who eat up innings.
Kluber 2.0? great. Can we get him to start on opening day?
On Soto - who cares if the Yankees get him. Make no mistake, I'd love him on the Sox, and think he'd be a .280 / .420 / .600 player here. But the Yankees are just as far removed from competing as the Sox, if not more. Their roster is aging quick. One of the worst farm systems in baseball. Parting with a bunch of decent talent just for the opportunity to pay a guy a $400m contract is very George Steinbrenner, and unless they also resolve the rest of that roster- big friggin deal.
As cynical as I am for the intermediate future of the Sox, the Yankees are right there with them. Trading roster depth for a star isn't going to resolve the fact that they have a lineup that is about as good as the Athletics or the Royals, and are a Gerrit Cole away from having one of the worst rotations in baseball. Go head and trade young depth for Soto. Judge and Cole are both on the wrong side of 30.
On Soto - who cares if the Yankees get him. Make no mistake, I'd love him on the Sox, and think he'd be a .280 / .420 / .600 player here. But the Yankees are just as far removed from competing as the Sox, if not more. Their roster is aging quick. One of the worst farm systems in baseball. Parting with a bunch of decent talent just for the opportunity to pay a guy a $400m contract is very George Steinbrenner, and unless they also resolve the rest of that roster- big friggin deal.
As cynical as I am for the intermediate future of the Sox, the Yankees are right there with them. Trading roster depth for a star isn't going to resolve the fact that they have a lineup that is about as good as the Athletics or the Royals, and are a Gerrit Cole away from having one of the worst rotations in baseball. Go head and trade young depth for Soto. Judge and Cole are both on the wrong side of 30.
This is wildly not true, maybe you are going by the ancient Fangraphs ratings? They have 7 guys in the BA top 100 currently and their pitching development is in full swing, two SPs from the 2022 draft already in the top 100 overall including the overall MILB pitcher of the year this year. There's a reason they match up better for Soto than anyone else, they have pitchers to spare despite trading 10 (yes, 10) at the 2022 deadline.
The highest I see them anywhere is bleacher report at 16. Fan graphs and mlbpipeline both have them in the bottom 10. If this is a point you're actually arguing it's semantic at best. One guy who might be a top 50 prospect?
Why are you optimistic on a farm that has maybe one top 50 prospect and is rated in various places as bottom half of the league?
I think the various prospect ranking systems tend to be 6-12 months behind reality, and NY's current minor league system is pretty loaded. Do you follow this (genuine question) or are you just looking up rankings?
View: https://twitter.com/jnorris427/status/1730985301101646194
If you want to keep this going, please bump this thread and I'd be happy to go into it in depth with you.
https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/ny-minor-league-prospect-news-2023-edition.38570/page-3
Your larger point, that Soto isn't going to fix the Yankees on his own, is definitely correct, but let's see where things stand in March.
https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/ny-minor-league-prospect-news-2023-edition.38570/page-3
Your larger point, that Soto isn't going to fix the Yankees on his own, is definitely correct, but let's see where things stand in March.
What's the point in bringing in Breslow and his merry band of pitching gurus if we don't go for at least *some* reclamation projects? Hopefully they pick them a bit better and help them a bit more than we've been doing.
I wouldn’t mind a moderate 1 yr + team option/buyout situation, but there’s no way I’d want a normal multi-year deal.