Joel Sherman questions whether the Yankees actually want to add at the deadline. He thinks Hal does not want to go over the LT. https://nypost.com/2021/07/19/there-are-real-questions-about-yankees-trade-deadline-plan-sherman/
Joel Sherman 2021 is like Brett Gardner 2021, a longtime valuable contributor who is now a shell of himself and probably should retire.Joel Sherman questions whether the Yankees actually want to add at the deadline. He thinks Hal does not want to go over the LT. https://nypost.com/2021/07/19/there-are-real-questions-about-yankees-trade-deadline-plan-sherman/
They'll have his head in the media if he doesn't. Inevitably, Boston is going to come back down to earth and the wild card is WELL within reach. There is no excuse.Not only has it been clear for many months that NY is not going over the LT line (it would be news if this was changing), but Cashman tends to only trade for upgrades to the MLB team when he’s the only real bidder (Sonny Gray, Paxton, Taillon, Kahnle/Robertson). This deadline it seems like buyers will likely outnumber sellers and so I doubt Cashman will trade for any real impact players.
Eh, not sure that most midseason trades matter that much, but Cashman does have a ton of excess depth in the minors and could put together a nice package for someone if he chooses and they can make the money work.They'll have his head in the media if he doesn't. Inevitably, Boston is going to come back down to earth and the wild card is WELL within reach. There is no excuse.
I have spoken to few #Yankees players about what is making the #RedSox so hard to beat right now… and every one of them gave me a version of this answer: “That is a bunch of guys that is having so much fun right now, and that makes a difference.”
If the word fits…Yeah, he's a terrible manager, the only one who doesn't think so (or who refuses to admit his mistake) is Cashman. A good manager would have pulled out a few of the games that the bullpen has blown in the last month or two and that on its own would have NY right around OAK for the second wild card and decidedly closer in the division. It's infuriating, and it has me largely checked out of watching the games.
Edit: I didn't realize I used the word 'infuriating' two posts up also, but it is, it's really fucking infuriating.
I wonder if this is for Joey Gallo. Rumors were that people would be surprised by how much the Rangers end up getting for him.For me Peraza is the second most untouchable Yankee prospect, behind only Dominguez, so if this is a trade, it had better be for someone with a bunch of years of control.
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Chapman? Only signed through next year, his age 34 season. Not sure what his value is across the league given the recent struggles but you have to imagine someone would offer up something substantial for him given the upside.Again, if they were sellers, what would they sell? I don’t expect them to do much of anything except move fringe 40 man prospects.
Especially if you could throw Cole in a potential WC game.The Yankees are only 3.5 out of the wild card? Hard to justify being sellers then. I had no clue they were that close.
I don't think spending more money makes a better baseball team. I think limiting how much you spend can limit how much you can improve, period. The Yankees cannot simultaneously hold onto every damn prospect and also stay under the tax every year. Not when they want to also have large inflexible contracts like Cole and Chapman.Too many people continue to think that spending money in baseball fixes problems. It creates problems more than it fixes them. For instance, NY's bullpen issues right now are arguably because they spent too much money there, Britton has been a zero all year and Chapman has been a mess for a while, but they aren't going anywhere because of what they get paid. I think there's a real argument to be made that if Cashman had spent $30M less on the bullpen (no Chapman, Britton, O'Day, Wilson) that it would be stronger, it would certainly be more flexible.
This is where I am at, too. The Yankees’ injury trend in recent years seems linked to their larger position players. Stanton, Judge. Sanchez. You forgot the real softball star, Voit.I think the the critical problem for the Yankees to address is the long-term viability of Judge-Stanton-Sanchez and how to restructure and escape a team basically that looks and plays like a beer league softball team.
Voit-exactly.This is where I am at, too. The Yankees’ injury trend in recent years seems linked to their larger position players. Stanton, Judge. Sanchez. You forgot the real softball star, Voit.
What’s wrong with trusting your farm system? Stop spending on behemoths. Rebuild from within for two years. Shoot for 2024. I’ve got time.
We'll see how how the season ends up, but aside from going on the Covid list on July 16th, Judge has been pretty healthy this year. I think he's a position player that the Yankees keep trying to build around.Judge is 29, can't stay healthy, and is going to be a FA in two years. Getting max value for him now is the smart play.
Judge and Sanchez are from the farm system and Voit was stolen from the Cardinals. Stanton was the only behemoth spent on.This is where I am at, too. The Yankees’ injury trend in recent years seems linked to their larger position players. Stanton, Judge. Sanchez. You forgot the real softball star, Voit.
What’s wrong with trusting your farm system? Stop spending on behemoths. Rebuild from within for two years. Shoot for 2024. I’ve got time.
Do you have any concerns with retaining Judge on a big contract for his age 31+ seasons?Yea easy on the hot takes for Judge. He’s a great all around player and injuries aren’t a huge concern relative to Voit and Stanton.
This is the big question going forward. Do you keep Judge or trade him before he hits the market in two years? If Jasson Dominguez lives up to the hype, why keep Judge around?We'll see how how the season ends up, but aside from going on the Covid list on July 16th, Judge has been pretty healthy this year. I think he's a position player that the Yankees keep trying to build around.
Sanchez has rebuilt his value closer to where it should be, so if they try to move him I don't thinks they'll be selling too low. I think a move is possible there.
Edit: I have a feeling that one of Voit or Gleyber might not be with the team next year. If Gleyber sticks around it will be at 2B with DJ at 1B. If Voit stays, DJ will be at 2B and Gleyber will go someplace else.
You only need to spend on one behemoth to hogtie the payroll options.Judge and Sanchez are from the farm system and Voit was stolen from the Cardinals. Stanton was the only behemoth spent on.
1) Dominguez plays CF. Is that going to change at the MLB level? I honestly haven't heard that he projects as a RFer.This is the big question going forward. Do you keep Judge or trade him before he hits the market in two years? If Jasson Dominguez lives up to the hype, why keep Judge around?
How fast did Devers get to the big leagues? I know Jasson lost 2020 as did all minor leaguers and the Yankees have nurtured him in Tampa but with the truly talented players, two years in the minors is about right. If Stanton weren’t clogging up the payroll, I would be in favor of keeping Judge. But you gotta pay the piper when you take on a salary that is costing the Yankees $22M annually (my thanks to Crow and Abbey for straightening me out on that number; I thought it was higher).1) Dominguez plays CF. Is that going to change at the MLB level? I honestly haven't heard that he projects as a RFer.
2) Regardless of where he plays in the OF, I don't think they'll really know if he's living up to the hype in two years. In two years I think the Yankees are probably just starting the process of finding out.
So no, I don't really see any conflict with Judge and the Martian. If anything, Dominguez on a cheap contract makes it easier for Judge to be one of the guys they Yankees spend on.
I think sensible Yankee fans believe in the general plan of building from within. I thought that was the whole lesson of the 2017 season. Trust the kids.One thing Jomboy mentioned yesterday that really stuck out to me was his preference for the Yankees trade deadline to be about targeting valuable, cost-controlled players for a 2022/2023, semi-rebuild effort. Essentially, just treat the trade deadline as a pseudo offseason and make some savvy moves to improve the team's upcoming roster issues rather than trying to scramble for 2021. I'm sorry for not bringing much more to that to the discussion, but I thought it was a pretty good direction the organization could move in if they didn't think being outright sellers at the deadline was the best option for their fans, their bottom line, and the team's future.
No question. But who really is a good bet to give a contract at 31? I said in another thread, the most I give a 31 year old Judge is 5-6 years. He's gonna want 8-9. Stanton has 5 more after this (yelp). That would mean 3-4 years of Judge/Stanton overlap if they don't pull an Arod with Stanton in his final year or two. Judge can slide into the DH spot in the second half of that sort of contract but I would let someone else give him 7-8 years.Do you have any concerns with retaining Judge on a big contract for his age 31+ seasons?
Hoy Park seems a bit rich for a reliever with some pretty terrible numbers, no?
They don't need a rebuild. I'm still not convinced that the majority of this year's misfortune is just that, bad luck. An out here, a bad inning there, lots of 1 run losses, lots of poorly timed injuries, covid... I wouldn't overreact in one direction or the other. Which means a boring trade deadline and offseason.One thing Jomboy mentioned yesterday that really stuck out to me was his preference for the Yankees trade deadline to be about targeting valuable, cost-controlled players for a 2022/2023, semi-rebuild effort. Essentially, just treat the trade deadline as a pseudo offseason and make some savvy moves to improve the team's upcoming roster issues rather than trying to scramble for 2021. I'm sorry for not bringing much more to that to the discussion, but I thought it was a pretty good direction the organization could move in if they didn't think being outright sellers at the deadline was the best option for their fans, their bottom line, and the team's future.
Yup. Judge has thankfully been healthy this year outside of COVID but I'd have concerns locking him up in his 30s, especially given how big he is. He's a better hitter than Richie Sexson but the latter didn't last long after his Age 31 season. Are there any good historical comps for someone that tall being effective into their mid 30s? Winfield?No question. But who really is a good bet to give a contract at 31? I said in another thread, the most I give a 31 year old Judge is 5-6 years. He's gonna want 8-9. Stanton has 5 more after this (yelp). That would mean 3-4 years of Judge/Stanton overlap if they don't pull an Arod with Stanton in his final year or two. Judge can slide into the DH spot in the second half of that sort of contract but I would let someone else give him 7-8 years.
Short Version: I would love Judge until around 35-36 but beyond that, I'm absolutely fine letting someone else give him 35m/yr
#6 is much more easily said than done as evidenced by the fact that the Yankees just had to overpay for a reliever with a 4.93 ERA.They don't need a rebuild. I'm still not convinced that the majority of this year's misfortune is just that, bad luck. An out here, a bad inning there, lots of 1 run losses, lots of poorly timed injuries, covid... I wouldn't overreact in one direction or the other. Which means a boring trade deadline and offseason.
I've said this in a few different ways already but my gut tells me the only thing this team needs is depth to cover for regular season injuries and a more balanced lineup. You don't rebuild because Corey Kluber is hurt or because Chapman had a bad month. The lineup does need...let me rebrand this...a refresh. Tons of dead weight.
Here's my priority list
1) Figure out what do with the Hicks in the offseason
2) Get rid of Gardner
3) Get rid of Frazier
4) Get rid of Wade
5) Get rid of Boone
6) Get rid of pitchers who shouldn't sniff an MLB roster (Kriske, Nelson, Wojchewzi SP?...etc)
7) Find a CF and a LF who are defense forward players who aren't 3 true outcome players on offense
8) re-order the lineup and add consistency. Ideally, one of the new outfielders can hit leadoff and push the rest of the lineup back one spot.
9) Extend Urshela
10) Get Torres to 2b, DJ to 1b, and find a new short stop.
11) Rotate Voit and Stanton between DH and Stanton in LF occasionally.
I need to put more time into that but I think some of those changes would go a very long way in changing the roster construction and depth. It's time to move on from the players who add no value.
"Replacement player?" Did he get his start in spring training 1995?
Regarding LF, I was a little worried last off-season that NY would sign Michael Brantley even though it wasn’t an obvious need. Complete hitter who I guarantee would all of the sudden hit 35 HRs a year playing in Yankee stadium.They don't need a rebuild. I'm still not convinced that the majority of this year's misfortune is just that, bad luck. An out here, a bad inning there, lots of 1 run losses, lots of poorly timed injuries, covid... I wouldn't overreact in one direction or the other. Which means a boring trade deadline and offseason.
I've said this in a few different ways already but my gut tells me the only thing this team needs is depth to cover for regular season injuries and a more balanced lineup. You don't rebuild because Corey Kluber is hurt or because Chapman had a bad month. The lineup does need...let me rebrand this...a refresh. Tons of dead weight.
Here's my priority list
1) Figure out what do with the Hicks in the offseason
2) Get rid of Gardner
3) Get rid of Frazier
4) Get rid of Wade
5) Get rid of Boone
6) Get rid of pitchers who shouldn't sniff an MLB roster (Kriske, Nelson, Wojchewzi SP?...etc)
7) Find a CF and a LF who are defense forward players who aren't 3 true outcome players on offense
8) re-order the lineup and add consistency. Ideally, one of the new outfielders can hit leadoff and push the rest of the lineup back one spot.
9) Extend Urshela
10) Get Torres to 2b, DJ to 1b, and find a new short stop.
11) Rotate Voit and Stanton between DH and Stanton in LF occasionally.
I need to put more time into that but I think some of those changes would go a very long way in changing the roster construction and depth. It's time to move on from the players who add no value.
I wouldn't put much doubt in Cashman's ability to make a trade. I had Odor written off too. He knows how to find value.#6 is much more easily said than done as evidenced by the fact that the Yankees just had to overpay for a reliever with a 4.93 ERA.