Week 15 Game Thread
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But where the ball is at that point. Still think he was across the to-go line.
still had it I think, that’s what I was looking at. He puts the ball out.
Yup, I think he probably had it, but it was definitely closer than the announcers were saying, because they kept citing the knee being down.
As soon as the QB goes into the slide, defenders can't hit them, so the ball is dead at that moment.
At least you know you need an improbable two additional scores in 3:30.
You need to get the two pointer on one of those two possessions to tie the score, so why wait?
NFC West Champs. Wonder if Shanahan rests CMC and Kittle for more than 1 game down the stretch.
What’s tiebreaker with Vikes because Vikes sched looks easy so maybe should rest guys.
Vikes are 6-3 in conference games, the Niners are 8-2. So if the Niners tie the Vikes, they’ll get the 2 seed because a tied record scenario cannot result in the Vikes winning the tiebreaker.
Probably, but undrafted rookie being trusted in that scenario and breaks it, I understand him wanting his first career TD.
Found this interesting. Ward came out went into tent. Was cleared for concussion but never went back into the game.
Turns out Shanahan didn’t feel right about him being cleared and kept him out. The coach taking on that responsibility here:
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbarrows/status/1603615715822428160
Turns out Shanahan didn’t feel right about him being cleared and kept him out. The coach taking on that responsibility here:
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/mattbarrows/status/1603615715822428160
Is it? They always talk that it's dead when the QB starts his slide but here's the rule from NFL:
The phrases in red about simulating are new this year. I believe that was to address a runner faking a slide.
This seems to indicate the ball is spotted at the point the QB touches the ground but in practice, the ball spotting seems very inconsistent to me. @CFB_Rules would probably know more about how it is actually called.
https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2022-nfl-rulebook/#article-1-dead-ball-declared
The way the NFL guys tell us to call it is the moment the hips drop, that's where you spot the ball. Usually put the ball a yard behind where you think he starts his slide, you'll be correct far more often.
Thanks. Seemed like that is the way it is generally called but for some reason, imo, they appear to have a tougher time spotting slides than regular plays. Probably just me focusing on it more though.
Zach Wilson is QB1 for the Jets on Sunday. Doctors will not clear Mike White to play, per Schefty.
View: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1603776057626497024?s=20&t=Vk7_TxDA-tPyUauzD2-uyg
View: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1603776057626497024?s=20&t=Vk7_TxDA-tPyUauzD2-uyg
This is sneaky big news. Very winnable game for the Jets. A loss really hurts their playoff chances.
Feels like the Pats playoff chances will come down to 1) can they reach 9 wins and 2) if they do, will the Chargers lose two more games as well?
From what I can tell the Wilson news moved the line 2.5 points towards Detroit. On ESPN the Jets went from -1.5 to +1 in the few hours since Schefty's tweet. I thnk it is a tough game either way for the Jets. The Lions have been rolling and still alive for a playoff berth. Dome team playing outdoors in mid-December, the Jets defense is awesome, the Lions could become the Lions again, etc. but Campbell's got that team and specifically the offense rolling.
I think 10 wins is the magic number for NE. I don't think 9 will be enough. 9 is going to require some crazy scenarios.
6. Miami (8-5; 6-3 AFC): @ Buffalo (Saturday), Green Bay, @ New England, New York Jets
7. New England (7-6; 5-3) @ Las Vegas, Cincy, Miami, @ Buffalo
8. Los Angeles Charger (7-6; 5-4) Tennessee, @ Indy, Los Angeles Rams, @ Denver
9. New York Jets (7-6; 5-5) Detroit, Jacksonville, @ Seattle, @ Miami
The Chargers imploding would be the biggest gift NE could get from here on out. That said, LAC will be favored in all 4 games and appear to have a cakewalk to 10 wins. 2-2 (or worse) with the 2 losses being AFC losses would be the best case scenario for the Pats. That would leave them 9-8; 6-6 and the Pats win that tiebreaker.
It feels far more likely the Chargers get to 10 or 11 wins which leaves the 3 AFC East teams for the final spot. I don't think 9 does it in that scenrio. The 9th Pats win would have to be against Miami. That would leave the Pats 9-8; 3-3, 7-5. Miami would have to either lose all 3 remaining games (@ BUF, GB, NYJ) to finish 8-9 or go 1-2 to finish 9-8 and tied with New England. That doesn't seem too crazy but also gives the Jets a win so they would need to go 1-2 in their other 3 games (DET, JAX, @ SEA). Again, not an outrageous ask but a lot of things need to lineup. Back to Miami, if the Pats beat them then Miami's other two losses would have to be Buffalo and New York so they finish 2-4 in the division and the Pats would be 3-3. If they lose to Green Bay but beat one of Buffalo or NYJ then I think we would need to get deep into tiebreakers since both teams would be 9-8 overall, 3-3 in the division, 7-5 in the conference and 1-1 in head to head.
Just feels like 9 wins is going to require A LOT of outside help.
In short, this weekend, go Bills, Lions, Titans!
I think 10 wins is the magic number for NE. I don't think 9 will be enough. 9 is going to require some crazy scenarios.
6. Miami (8-5; 6-3 AFC): @ Buffalo (Saturday), Green Bay, @ New England, New York Jets
7. New England (7-6; 5-3) @ Las Vegas, Cincy, Miami, @ Buffalo
8. Los Angeles Charger (7-6; 5-4) Tennessee, @ Indy, Los Angeles Rams, @ Denver
9. New York Jets (7-6; 5-5) Detroit, Jacksonville, @ Seattle, @ Miami
The Chargers imploding would be the biggest gift NE could get from here on out. That said, LAC will be favored in all 4 games and appear to have a cakewalk to 10 wins. 2-2 (or worse) with the 2 losses being AFC losses would be the best case scenario for the Pats. That would leave them 9-8; 6-6 and the Pats win that tiebreaker.
It feels far more likely the Chargers get to 10 or 11 wins which leaves the 3 AFC East teams for the final spot. I don't think 9 does it in that scenrio. The 9th Pats win would have to be against Miami. That would leave the Pats 9-8; 3-3, 7-5. Miami would have to either lose all 3 remaining games (@ BUF, GB, NYJ) to finish 8-9 or go 1-2 to finish 9-8 and tied with New England. That doesn't seem too crazy but also gives the Jets a win so they would need to go 1-2 in their other 3 games (DET, JAX, @ SEA). Again, not an outrageous ask but a lot of things need to lineup. Back to Miami, if the Pats beat them then Miami's other two losses would have to be Buffalo and New York so they finish 2-4 in the division and the Pats would be 3-3. If they lose to Green Bay but beat one of Buffalo or NYJ then I think we would need to get deep into tiebreakers since both teams would be 9-8 overall, 3-3 in the division, 7-5 in the conference and 1-1 in head to head.
Just feels like 9 wins is going to require A LOT of outside help.
In short, this weekend, go Bills, Lions, Titans!
I don't think it is crazy at 9 wins. All of those games are loseable for the Chargers. I mean, they're the Chargers. If they lose 2 AFC games and the Pats get to 9 wins, the Pats make it.
I’ve been worried about the Chargers for a while because I think their sched is a breeze. Maybe I have to think about it more. I mean, if the Chargers suck, Miami should fall out of the playoffs because the Chargers put a beating on them in perfect conditions.
The biggest knock against the Chargers is they are the Chargers and they will shoot themselves in the foot, the sum is less than the parts, etc.
They could lose to Tennessee easily. Harder to see them losing to Indy or the Rams unless something crazy happens. The final game @ Denver will probably depend on weather and Denver's interest level in the game.
They could lose to Tennessee easily. Harder to see them losing to Indy or the Rams unless something crazy happens. The final game @ Denver will probably depend on weather and Denver's interest level in the game.
Looks like Russell Wilson got benched? View: https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1603859226916446208
and now Ward has been put into the concussion protocol.
who is clearing these guys on the field?
I reach the same place as you with a much less granular analysis.
The Dolphins are 8-5. The Pats, Jets, and Chargers are each 7-6. Three of the four have positive point differentials; the fourth (LAC) has the league’s second easiest remaining schedule. Seems unlikely there won’t be two 10-7 (or better) teams in that bunch.
“The Colts playing for their playoff lives.”
Stop it. No one thinks the Colts are making the playoffs.
Stop it. No one thinks the Colts are making the playoffs.
Nate Burleson is pretty good at any job NFLN puts him in: Good Morning Football analyst, pre-game analyst or color man.
That's why he does the CBS morning show now. He's elite.
But Good Morning Football losing him hurt the show. It's still a great watch but it was perfect with Pete, Kyle, Kay, and Nate.
When they were 10-2, they had the worst point differential for a 10-2 team in the history of the NFL.
Stats bear it out.