Watching the Jones: Dazed & Confused
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OK, now it's showing up. Marciano, what kind of shoes are those that are $1,000? They look like Sketchers.
I wouldn't let him out of the boot this quickly, but most of my patients are homeless so I tend to be conservative....
I bet that's not even him, seriously
I bet that's not even him, seriously
You went to offshore medical school because you wanted people to walk funny, like in the Monty Python sketch, didn't you?
That and my life-long dream of becoming the go-to medical resource on a message board full of.... you people.
I'm thinking that if/when Edelman returns later in the season, he won't be anything close to his usual self. His game is based on quick cuts, stops, starts --- all which put pressure on the foot. Either he plays at something like 60% or he reinjures the foot. It seems that many fans think when he returns it will be just the same as pre-injury.
I didn't mean it to be snarky. Everything Ive read is that with a clean recovery its healed by the playoffs. I have concerns about the team being in sync for the playoffs, the Pats always put a premium on getting the team reps and peaking late in the season going into the playoffs and that doesn't seem like its going to happen this year for the offense, but I haven't read anything medical that said "he's going to be limited and have a really high risk of reinjury". But I know fuck all about medicine, so would be very interested to know if my interpretation is wrong.
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EDIT: Wait, you can actually do that now? Page someone to a thread with the @ symbol? Cooool.
EDIT: Wait, you can actually do that now? Page someone to a thread with the @ symbol? Cooool.
Basically due to the short healing time from injury to full-speed ahead, plus the stress on his feet caused by his style of play. I certainly hope I'm wrong. Guess we'll find out.
But isn't that why this is a 2 month thing? That's the whole point of him missing all that time, so we don't rush him back and play him at 75% or whatever.
2 months is kind of a long time to heal, especially with topnotch treatment. Plus, I assume he could get back to biking and ellipticaling pretty quickly so his conditioning shouldn't be too far off. Probably can weight train around it too, so he shouldn't have lost too much weight or strength either.
2 months is actually a pretty reasonable time-frame for the bone to heal - even with the best treatments human biology dictates about a 6-8 week healing time for this fracture. What "percent" he is at when he comes back really depends on how quickly he is able to knock the rust off and get his timing back - he could be close to 100%, but if there is any residual pain or just the usual feeling of insecurity/lack of trust in a recently injured body part, he may not be as effective in the playoffs as he would like to be.
Sorry, you're right of course. I meant 2 months is at the middle to out end of how long one would expect recovery to take for something like this, and is actually a fair amount of time to heal and not - as the post implied - a rush job.
Update: During a visit yesterday with my orthopedic surgeon we discussed Edelman's injury and my concern with his ability level when he returns. His answer (truncated) was 85% should not be a problem given the nature of the injury. That would be pretty damn good. Let's be hopeful because the Pats sure need him to be a contributor in the tournament.
Musings - sure. Baseless - nope.
The bottom line is he won't be the same player as he was pre-injury. Close, hopefully.
You absolutely cannot make that statement. Nor can your orthopedic surgeon, Edelman himself, Edelman's orthopedic surgeon... no-one.
Not even me, and I went to Harvard and shit.
He didn't say he went there for school. Just went there. I went there, too. For a party.
Here's the thing--your doc didn't say that (at least you didn't say he did). He said that he should have "no problem" getting to 85%. That in no way precludes him being 100%.
Well since Harvard is the University of Virginia of the northeast, I feel completely comfortable saying that no one can predict Edelman's post-injury recovery, performance, etc.
I've never been to Harvard but I did go to a toga party at UMass - Amherst in 1987. My buddy caught crabs...not from me. Does that count?
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I've never been to Harvard but I did go to a toga party at UMass - Amherst in 1987. My buddy caught crabs...not from me. Does that count?
Usual disclaimer: ER docs are federally prohibited from demanding fees for their services, we can ask but you don't have to pay. You're welcome.
Don't worry no one actually pays DRS either. We're all a bunch of deadbeats here.
Gronk and Chung not spotted at practice today.
Don't know exactly what's up with Chung, but if Gronk doesn't practice this week I'd say the chances of him returning for the Titans game are slim to none.
Don't know exactly what's up with Chung, but if Gronk doesn't practice this week I'd say the chances of him returning for the Titans game are slim to none.
Chung was listed as questionable last week and I believe was on the injury report prior to the Denver game. I hope that they're just giving him a day off and he'll be back at practice tomorrow. And I would have been very surprised if Gronk practiced this week or played against the Texans. He seemed destined to miss two regular season games at the absolute minimum and I don't think it would be a big surprise if he was held back until the playoffs.
On Chung -- Agreed, hope this is just a day of rest for a veteran.
On Gronk -- I was hoping he'd practice on a limited basis this week with an eye toward returning against the Titans. Still, of all games on the schedule that the one that will probably be the easiest to win without him.
Edited to make clear I wasn't suggesting it would be easier to win without Gronk against Tennessee.
The Patriots don't typically do veteran rest days, and by my reckoning no one has missed a day of practice and played that weekend yet in 2015, except for Slater and Harmon when their kids were born. It did happen a couple times in 2014. Smart money is on Chung missing the game Sunday.
