Tigers acquire David Price
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How do you feel about the Lester trade now?
That just isn't enough in this market for a year plus of David Price.
That just isn't enough in this market for a year plus of David Price.
Corsi said:
The Mariners did poorly here. Holy shit. Tampa didn't do too well, either.
Edit: Eh, on second thought, they just gave up Franklin. Tampa is the real loser. Bizarre.
Edit 2: I used a terrible word and shouldn't have, so I removed it. My apologies.
Could we get a live shot of the Rays Clubhouse? How's that taste, Madden? Any thoughts, Evan? Enjoy your aborted comeback.
wibi said:
Yeah, I edited my post. Even with Adames added, the Rays did not get enough for Price.
Franklin is a weird case; he's been a beast in AAA and yet hasn't been able to translate that into major league production in Seattle. But getting out of that hitting environment may be all he needs to blossom.
Smyly is a top prospect with 4 years of control left and already a lot of success in the major leagues. That's got to be worth more than even a top 10 prospect with no major league track record. I'd certainly take him over any 2 in the Red Sox system right now for sure.
I don't think Tampa did that poorly. Presumably, this deal wasn't on the table for Lester. I would have done Smyly straight up for Lester if that was available.
Smyly is a top prospect with 4 years of control left and already a lot of success in the major leagues. That's got to be worth more than even a top 10 prospect with no major league track record. I'd certainly take him over any 2 in the Red Sox system right now for sure.
I don't think Tampa did that poorly. Presumably, this deal wasn't on the table for Lester. I would have done Smyly straight up for Lester if that was available.
wibi said:
Miller isn't even starting anymore. They called Chris Taylor up from the minors recently and he has been getting most of the at bats at shortstop.
I'm not sure what they will do with Ackley now, as I don't see them benching James Jones who has done very well this year for them.
I mean, if you're somebody who still thinks Jackie Bradley will eventually be a productive major league bat, you ought to still be really high on Nick Franklin, too. He put up a 840 OPS as a 20-21 year old in AA, and over the past two seasons has a 900 OPS as a 22-23 year old in AAA (Inflated by it being the PCL, for sure).
They're taking it in stride, especially Chris Archer. He realizes that he's not bigger than the game.FredCDobbs said:
Rays would never have traded for 8 months of Cespedes. That's the same amount of control left over Price.rembrat said:
They must be really high on this Adames kid. Sounds like he's tearing it up at an advanced level for his age.
http://www.freep.com/article/20140617/SPORTS02/306170103/detroit-tigers-prospects-willy-adames
ThePrideofShiner said:
James Jones has been terrible since a brief hot start. I wouldn't be surprised if he's sent down to the minors after this and comes back as a pinch runner in September if the M's are still in the hunt.
Is the key for this deal an 18-year old SS prospect in single A?
I mean, I feel like I must be missing something. It's not that the Rays got back bad players, but compared to the alternative - keeping Price for the rest of the year and using him to push for the playoff chase that they are suddenly back in, this seems like a terrible, terrible deal.
Does Franklin go to 2B for the Rays? Zobrist to the OF? And Smyly replaces Price?
I don't see how this makes them better now, and you'd think they could get a similar haul, if not much more, in the off-season. Weird, weird, weird.
I mean, I feel like I must be missing something. It's not that the Rays got back bad players, but compared to the alternative - keeping Price for the rest of the year and using him to push for the playoff chase that they are suddenly back in, this seems like a terrible, terrible deal.
Does Franklin go to 2B for the Rays? Zobrist to the OF? And Smyly replaces Price?
I don't see how this makes them better now, and you'd think they could get a similar haul, if not much more, in the off-season. Weird, weird, weird.
SemperFidelisSox said:
RedOctober3829 said:
Pennant contenders are going for it in earnest this year.
Smyly is an impressive young pitcher with outstanding stuff. The Rays may think that he'll produce well enough to make 4 years of Smyly better than 1 year of Price.
rembrat said:
Would they want Cespedes contract, considering the only reason they had to move Price was his own contract? I don't think there's any scenario in which Tampa prefers that. I'm not down on Cespedes (and I'm fine with that deal), but I'd probably prefer a young lefty to slot into the rotation and a player to stash at AAA to use in a deal in the offseason.
I think Smyly's better than any of the AAA guys they have now (not including AA Owens), but opinions will differ. Owens and perhaps De la Rosa are the only ones 25 and under that I think they could rely on to be productive major leaguers, with the rest of the group more in the Doubront mold, which is useful until arbitration. Rinaudo is the dark horse in that group, and I've always viewed him as likely having a Papelbon-like path to success, but it would be nice for him to turn it on in his first shot in the majors.
I don't know a thing about Willy Adames, but he better turn into a stud or Tampa made out poorly, especially considering they are (were) in the postseason race and could have kept Price for the run and traded him in the offseason or at next year's deadline. Instead, they helped out another playoff contender.
Looking forward to this year's "final four" with LA/St. Louis in the NLCS and Detroit/Oakland in the ALCS
Plympton91 said:
According to Hyman, Ben tried to get Smyly for Lackey so I'm sure Lester was mentioned too.
Red(s)HawksFan said:
DaubachmanTurnerOD said:
Dang, yeah. He is 3-for-his-last 41. I'm guessing Ackley stays in left, Jackson obviously in center and Jones to the minors.
We could have put together a better return for the Rays for Price.
He would have been a nice replacement if they couldn't resign Lester and until Owens is ready.
Assuming of course the Rays would have dealt him within the division.
He would have been a nice replacement if they couldn't resign Lester and until Owens is ready.
Assuming of course the Rays would have dealt him within the division.
Could have moved him this winter for the same haul or more and still got a last playoff run out of him.Rudy Pemberton said:
Friedman got his clock cleaned here.
