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The Goalie Thread

Discussion in 'Rick Middleton's Pron 'Stache: Bruins Forum' started by The Long Tater, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. The Long Tater

    The Long Tater Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    So is there a controversy? After tonight, do you give Doby the start on Friday against the Pens? Who is your number one right now?
     
  2. veritas

    veritas Member SoSH Member

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    Disclaimer, I said their biggest need in the offseason was backup goalie so wtf do I know. I think they should ride him while he's hot, even if it lasts a few weeks. I think there's enough evidence to say Tuukka is most likely the better goalie still, but goalies are a magical thing.

    I don't see a lot of downside to essentially making Tuukka the backup for now. Either Khudobin is Tim Thomas 2.0, or he wins some games during this streak while Tuukka figures things out and Tuukka is not worn down when the playoffs start. I'm not worried about a crisis of confidence with him, he's dealt with this all before
     
  3. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    I’ll have more to say a story this thread develops, but thanks for starting this. I hope this stays an intelligent discussion.
     
  4. cshea

    cshea Member SoSH Member

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    I’d start Khudobin tomorrow. He is playing too well to take him out. That said I don’t want Rask to go too long without a start. Only way to get him back to the level of play we’re accustomed to seeing from his is to get him some work. Sunday against the struggling Oilers may be a good spot for him.

    I feel like this has happened a few times recently with the Rangers and Lundqvist. Hank struggles, they give Raanta (when they had him) the net for a week or two when he’s hot, then Hank comes back. Seems to work for them. Hopefully the B’s get similar results.
     
  5. FL4WL3SS

    FL4WL3SS Member SoSH Member

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    I'd ride Khudobin as long as possible. It's probably unlikely they'll get another run like this from him this season (or ever). Let Rask spell him every once in a while and then it'll eventually work itself out.
     
  6. TheShynessClinic

    TheShynessClinic SoSH's Doug Neidermeyer SoSH Member

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    4 straight wins for KhudoWIN.

    If EGA (earned goals allowed) was a thing, he would have thrown up a 2.00 today, as that Crosby goal was pretty bullshit.

    Keep riding the hot hand, hopefully this sparks Tuukka when he eventually gets back in.
     
  7. FL4WL3SS

    FL4WL3SS Member SoSH Member

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    I think Tuukka needs to start next game to keep him fresh and Khudobin was looking a bit tired today.
     
  8. Eddie Jurak

    Eddie Jurak Go Leafs Go Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Yes. I'm all for riding the hot hand when possible, but Tuukka is still the #1 goalie.
     
  9. Maximus

    Maximus Member SoSH Member

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    I agree, I would start Tuukka on Sunday.
     
  10. The Long Tater

    The Long Tater Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Khudobin is currently third in the league in both gaa and save percentage. Crazy.
     
  11. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    Want to revisit this one after last night. Some unassorted thoughts in the interest of discussion:
    • Thank god for that 3rd period last night, otherwise I was trending real down on Tuukka. That 2nd period was really bad with the goal then the timidity on the Johnson rush.
    • It's fact that Khudobin has been a better goalie this year than Tuukka. Both the stats and the eye test support that.
    • It's my opinion that this team won't go far if Tuukka isn't on his game, so they certainly can't ride Khudobin for too long at Tuukka's expense.
    • We now can have a more reasonable workload split, and let this sort itself out over the season, which to me is a good thing.
    • There will be a conversation to have about Tuukka's future...in the offseason.
    • I'd come back to Khudobin on Saturday.
     
  12. cshea

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    Agreed on all accounts. Khudobin Saturday, I don’t want him getting cold from a layoff between appearances.

    Hopefully we can look back at the pad save on Kucherov at the end of the 2nd as a turning night point for Rask.
     
  13. Salem's Lot

    Salem's Lot Andy Moog! Andy God Damn Moog! SoSH Member

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    They should alternate games for as long as possible. Best case scenario is a rested Tuukka in April. That worked out rather well in 2013.
     
  14. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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    This might not be anything, but it's interesting that Khudobin's stats took a noticable turn for the better once Cassidy was hired, which I believe came with a commitment to getting him regular work:

    6-1-0 .922% 2.21 GAA for 2016-17 once Cassidy came on board
    7-0-2 .932% 2.22 GAA for 2017-18 so far.

    Now, part of this is because Dobby didn't play well in the first part of 2016/17, and then he got hurt to boot and spent some time in Providence getting back into game shape. So Julien might not have had much reason to play him. But Julien was fired on Feb. 7, and Cassidy brought on board, and Dobby got the start on Feb. 11. And then he got regular work through the rest of the season. So maybe there's something to his use under Cassidy which helped him get off to this hot start.
     
  15. cshea

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    Rask Saturday, Khudobin Monday

     
  16. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    Rask: 6-0-1 in his last seven games with a 1.45 goals-against average and a .937 save percentage.
     
  17. FL4WL3SS

    FL4WL3SS Member SoSH Member

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    These things always have a way of figuring themselves out.
     
  18. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    So we shouldn't panic in November? Got it.

    Nice game for Dobby last night too.
     
  19. The Long Tater

    The Long Tater Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    There is a lot to like about how this team is playing and where it is going. Goaltending is a real strength.
     
  20. The Long Tater

    The Long Tater Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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  21. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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    It's a great rebound for Tuukka, but we're very fortunate to have Khudobin play so well in the early part of the year when Rask was struggling a bit. Kept us in the playoff picture and really steadied the ship.
     
  22. TFP

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    I’ll forever say he saved their season. If he doesn’t hold the fort on that west coast trip, this season easily could have gotten away from them.

    Want to see Khudobin to continue to get starts as we move forward to keep him sharp and keep Tuukka rested (assuming Khudobin continues to play well).
     
  23. TheYaz67

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    Agreed - looks like he will get a game this weekend, since they have a back-to-back against Carolina and Pittsburgh and Rask will have started the last 3 in a row going into the weekend (assuming he starts tomorrow against FL). Then the have that bizarre week long break, but starting on Jan 13 they play 9 games over the following 19 days, so likely Khudobin gets 2 or 3 of those starts one would think....
     
  24. joe dokes

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    No doubt. And gutsy move by the coach. Rask wasn't playing well, but there aren't many coaches that would rest the clear #1 AND keep him on the bench while riding the #2's hot streak.
     
  25. Smiling Joe Hesketh

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    I really like the rotation choice of having Dobby get the Canes game and saving Rask for the Penguins. Dobby gets to face (and beat) this old team and the red-hot Rask gets a very good Penguins team. It's probably the obvious move, but I'm not sure Claude had enough faith in his backups over the last couple of years to do something like this.
     
  26. MiracleOfO2704

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    I think this is where the dangling act Claude had to pull off after Chiarelli’s firing potentially comes into play. Svedberg/Khudobin/AHL call-up would come into a game cold, having only seen practice shots for two weeks at a time, be mentally unprepared for game speed, and stumble in a start, which the coach couldn’t afford in order to keep his job, which meant more Rask than Rask can handle, which aided late-season collapses. If he feels totally safe in 2015-16 and his half of 2016-17, he might have been willing to let them ride out of their struggles a little more. After all, Subban’s been serviceable in Vegas this year. That wasn’t totally out of nowhere.
     

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