Forgive me, but can someone reset the original post or explain what it is I am rooting for as to the LAC, SAC and Memphis picks? SAC seems pretty obvious, we would like them to lose the rest of their games and get the #2 pick. LAC and Memphis?
LAC only conveys if the Clips make the playoffs this year or next, or it converts to two seconds. Therefore the best possible pick is the one where they *just* make the playoffs, though even them making the four seed is preferable to them missing both the next two years.Forgive me, but can someone reset the original post or explain what it is I am rooting for as to the LAC, SAC and Memphis picks? SAC seems pretty obvious, we would like them to lose the rest of their games and get the #2 pick. LAC and Memphis?
Posted at exact same moment. I like where your head is at...Kings up by 13 at half, lose at home to Denver. Nice loss, bringing them to 19-19
Very focusedPosted at exact same moment. I like where your head is at...
Wouldn’t be a terrible outcome if this holds true although we’d all prefer to have MEM roll over. Lots Ainge could do with these picks.538 projections put us with #9 (SAC), # 11 (MEM), # 18 (LAC), and #24 (BOS)
Which probably means that both LAC and Memphis roll over, Sacramento ends up at #15, and the Celtics at #28.538 projections put us with #9 (SAC), # 11 (MEM), # 18 (LAC), and #24 (BOS)
Second rounder.What does the Clippers pick roll into? I thought it was nothing.
2019 first round draft pick from L.A. ClippersWhat does the Clippers pick roll into? I thought it was nothing.
One second rounder in 2022.Second rounders.
LAC owes their 2021 2nd round pick to CHA.I never understood the rationale behind the Clipper's pick converting to a less valuable pick two years later. Is there a back story?
Then why not a '23 1 st unprotected?LAC owes their 2021 2nd round pick to CHA.
And it is pretty common to have a 1st rounder convert to a 2nd rounder after a few bites. Teams can't be hamstrung with Stepien rule for multiple years
It is quite common for non-conveyed protected 1sts to turn into 2nds. We are spolied because Ainge somehow convinced MEM to offer no protections on their 1st round pick if it doesn't convey this year or next.Then why not a '23 1 st unprotected?
I get the Stepian rule, but trading a 1 today for a potential #2 in 3-4 years seems to violate common sense and PV/FV convention.
Teams don't trade unprotected picks in the future anymore.Then why not a '23 1 st unprotected?
I get the Stepian rule, but trading a 1 today for a potential #2 in 3-4 years seems to violate common sense and PV/FV convention.
Because the Celtics traded the 31st pick in the draft for it. A couple of chances at a low 1st rounder before it turns into a 2nd is a fair return.Then why not a '23 1 st unprotected?
I get the Stepian rule, but trading a 1 today for a potential #2 in 3-4 years seems to violate common sense and PV/FV convention.
Ainge ruined it for everyone...Teams don't trade unprotected picks in the future anymore.
Sure they do. They are more careful, but Phoenix just did it (not their own pick, but it was still unprotected). Teams will be falling over themselves to give up their own unprotected picks for Anthony Davis.Teams don't trade unprotected picks in the future anymore.
I think it was more of a general response, not an absolute. Smart teams, or rather non dumb teams, rarely trade unprotected 1sts for anything but a superstar.Sure they do. They are more careful, but Phoenix just did it (not their own pick, but it was still unprotected). Teams will be falling over themselves to give up their own unprotected picks for Anthony Davis.
Because what was being traded was Jeff Green and first round picks have to be conveyed within six years. '23 was too far out.Then why not a '23 1 st unprotected?
The Celtics did for Kyrie too. I meant more like the Memphis pick. Teams aren't going to trade away unprotected 1st rounders for Jeff Green.Sure they do. They are more careful, but Phoenix just did it (not their own pick, but it was still unprotected). Teams will be falling over themselves to give up their own unprotected picks for Anthony Davis.
and our ole tanking buddies the Nets do us a solid.Memphis about to lose at home to the Nets.
Tied at 105Sacto now winning in the 4th. These guys are annoying...ly pretty good.
This game has been a joy to watch. Hield and Justin Jackson have been on fire from three: 8-12 and 5-7, respectively.Tied at 105
Never feel bad about Tankathon rooting interests. We’ll all be Kings fans next year. This year, I hope they lose every game 145-143.I feel bad rooting against the Kings: they have good fans, they've been shitty for awhile, and the team is damn fun to watch. Imagine if Vlade had gone with Luka over Bagley...
What if 39% is their normal? Hield is leading them at 44% but he shot 43% over a full season last year (and 43% in the final 25 games of prior year after the trade to Sac), Bjelica is also at 44% and he shot 41.5% last year. Bogdanovich is at 37%, down from 39% last year.They are also still shooting 39% from 3. If that can normalize a bit they will regress fairly quickly given how poor their defense is. 8 out of their 19 wins have been by 6 points or less, so even two missed 3's is a huge difference. For a comparison, 5 out of the 23 Celtics wins are by 6 or less if you're curious.
Given how close the tankathon race is going to be, that's what I'm most focused on. If 3 of those tight 8 point wins were losses they'd be right around the 5th or 6th worst record.
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Sac is shooting 41.2% from 3 in wins and 36.8% (first in the league!) in losses.
Bos is shooting 39.3% from 3 in wins and 32.3% in losses. Woof.
I'm with you. If the end of year line were set at 38% for this team, I would seriously consider taking the over. Hield is leading the team in attempts and will continue to shoot well. The other two will as well. That's like half their attempts right there.What if 39% is their normal? Hield is leading them at 44% but he shot 43% over a full season last year (and 43% in the final 25 games of prior year after the trade to Sac), Bjelica is also at 44% and he shot 41.5% last year. Bogdanovich is at 37%, down from 39% last year.
Fox and Jackson have made second-year leaps in shooting which is common so I'm not convinced these aren't real. As a whole however the reason the Kings are shooting so well from 3 is a combination of playing at a faster pace creating open looks and the team having a bunch of great shooters and others who are also capable. This will be interesting to see how it holds up.
It could be, but I find it doubtful that they are Warriors level 3 point shooters. Sure, Hield and Bjelica are good, but I am doubtful that they are both 44% three point shooters over the whole season (one of them sure, but that would be historic for I can't find a pair of teammates both shooting that good with > 3 attempts per game). Fox is likely not a 38% shooter, nor is Shumpert.What if 39% is their normal? Hield is leading them at 44% but he shot 43% over a full season last year (and 43% in the final 25 games of prior year after the trade to Sac), Bjelica is also at 44% and he shot 41.5% last year. Bogdanovich is at 37%, down from 39% last year.
Bagley is pretty good himself and probably a better fit alongside Hield and Fox. Quite a few people are already talking about how bad a pairing Luka and DSJ are.I feel bad rooting against the Kings: they have good fans, they've been shitty for awhile, and the team is damn fun to watch. Imagine if Vlade had gone with Luka over Bagley...
That could be historic, but Steph Curry and Cook are shooting .450 and .455 so they'd have company. SA is shooting close to 40% as a team with Bertrans at .475 and Forbes at .430.It could be, but I find it doubtful that they are Warriors level 3 point shooters. Sure, Hield and Bjelica are good, but I am doubtful that they are both 44% three point shooters over the whole season (one of them sure, but that would be historic for I can't find a pair of teammates both shooting that good with > 3 attempts per game). Fox is likely not a 38% shooter, nor is Shumpert.