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Right? I just skimmed through this thread and …not this forum’s finest moment. Yikes.Wait, so Chase yanks down Ramsey by his helmet and it's the Bengals who got jobbed by the refs? I don't think so.
Indeed, it wasn't Chase but Higgins with the facemask grab.Right? I just skimmed through this thread and …not this forum’s finest moment. Yikes.
Dre did end up using that police line during the performance. What a dumb thing to worry about. He was in NWA - everyone knows how he feels by now.But it hasn’t exactly been an easy ride. In the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, Dre has gone back and forth with league officials about the lyrics and content of the songs that he could perform onstage. And it goes beyond curse words. A source close to the artist complained that Dre was being “disgustingly censored.” How? The league apparently didn’t want its premier event to turn into a divisive culture war moment. In particular, I’m told, N.F.L. representatives indicated to Dre during rehearsals that they weren’t comfortable with a lyric from his signature 1999 hit, Still D.R.E., which states that he’s “still not loving police.”
Eminem did in fact kneel at the end of his turn. The significance of that act went right over my head at the time. And Snoop essentially wore a giant blue bandana.Meanwhile, the league nixed a plan by Eminem to kneel, Colin Kaepernick-style. Organizers also flagged something that Snoop Dogg was set to wear as possibly appearing gang-related. (Asked about new limitations placed on halftime performers, a spokesperson for the league did not respond.)
That's kind of the point. There was a bunch of blatant defensive holding plays all night both sides. They refused to call anything.For the many of you complaining about the ticky-tack holding call, the refs missed a more blatant defensive hold/PI one play earlier when Stafford tried to go to Henderson over the middle. The defender basically grabbed Henderson both before and after the pass
Ramsey got away with a blatant hold on third down on the Bengals first FG drive that would have given them first and goal as well. You can't let all of that stuff go by and then call that holding penalty at that point in the game. The refs clearly wanted a TD to happen, not saying it was even a conscious decision, but they absolutely do get involved in what's going on and have an interest in the outcome. Throwing a flag on a third down incompletion with the game on the line in the Super Bowl is akin to calling a ball on a pitch on the black with two strikes and two outs with RISP in the bottom of the 9th in the World Series. They want to extend the game.That's kind of the point. There was a bunch of blatant defensive holding plays all night both sides. They refused to call anything.
That's what makes that call so strange.
Not even close. Unless 16-13 doesn't qualify as "non-low scoring." But this game was played so poorly, I dont think the score qualifier matters.Either way, that has to be the most boring close, non-low scoring Super Bowl I can recall. This league desperately needs a villain, I think people will miss Brady a lot in the coming years.
The game is often referred to as the "Blunder Bowl," "Blooper Bowl," or "Stupor Bowl" due to it being marred with poor play, a blocked PAT, missed opportunities, penalties, turnovers, and officiating miscues. The two teams combined for a Super Bowl record 11 turnovers, with five solely in the fourth quarter.[1] The Colts' seven turnovers remain the most committed by a Super Bowl champion. Dallas also set a Super Bowl record with 10 penalties, costing them 133 yards.
I mean, I'm 31. I don't recall Super Bowl V. Also "boring" doesn't necessarily mean poorly played.Not even close. Unless 16-13 doesn't qualify as "non-low scoring." But this game was played so poorly, I dont think the score qualifier matters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_V
It is really this.What is frustrating as a fan is an officiating crew that lets them play all game long, and then suddenly starts calling stuff at the end.
This is kind of where I am. My recollection is that in a typical SB, the officiating tends to get looser as the game goes on, not the other way around. That's what makes last night so surprising. Having said that, the Bengals had plenty of time to get downfield at the end of the game and couldn't get it done. They shouldn't be blaming the refs for that loss.The missed facemask was obviously huge, but refs miss calls, it happens.
What is frustrating as a fan is an officiating crew that lets them play all game long, and then suddenly starts calling stuff at the end. There were several plays both ways that in a normal NFL came could have been called holding or pass interference, and they let every single one of them go, until they didn't.
That covers it.I think the whole game the officials were just trying to call super obvious fouls. And they did so: until the defensive holding call. Everything else even after the DH in that series was an obvious foul that must be called.
Its funny how one bad call can affect perceptions so starkly. But to be fair…it was a terrible time for a bad call.
This stuff is funny. Guess they didn’t notice Snoop crip walking. Like don’t hire gangster rappers and then worry about them doing or saying gangster rap things.Dre did end up using that police line during the performance. What a dumb thing to worry about. He was in NWA - everyone knows how he feels by now.
Eminem did in fact kneel at the end of his turn. The significance of that act went right over my head at the time. And Snoop essentially wore a giant blue bandana.
https://puck.news/no-one-is-taking-a-knee-on-sunday/
This is a really good point. From a story/feel good about a win perspective, the Bengals would have been in a much better spot if they score on that final drive vs stopping the Rams on the previous one.I was rooting for the Bengals, but the whole fourth quarter, I was thinking that it would be such a bummer if the Super Bowl was decided by one of the most egregious missed calls this side of the Rams-Saints DPI that wasn't.
I'm not happy that we're now talking about a ticky tack defensive holding, but the alternative scenario is way worse, IMO. The Bengals get a stop on that Rams drive and their Super Bowl win is remembered as the facemask game.
The non-call OT false start will become the new non-call holding. Refs appear to be letting that go at all levels.
Or that Snoop was basically a gigantic walking crip bandanna, which flew right over the heads of anyone in a position to do anything about it.This stuff is funny. Guess they didn’t notice Snoop crip walking. Like don’t hire gangster rappers and then worry about them doing or saying gangster rap things.
Not when the officials had established they weren't throwing flags for that type of play all game long. Players adapt to officiating, they have to be consistent.It wasn't even that bad of a call. I mean when you put your hands all over the receiver you run the risk of a flag at any time.
‘Hey linebacker or safety, just cover Cooper Kupp on a two way go in the middle of the field without touching him because if you touch him the refs might think it’s a hold for the first time all game.’It wasn't even that bad of a call. I mean when you put your hands all over the receiver you run the risk of a flag at any time.
I just saw this myself!So in your pool for Least Likely Celebrity to Get on the Rams Bandwagon, who had...
Do they need to be? They did what they wanted the way they wanted. I am pretty sure they won’t give a shit if they play another SB.That last drive was a disaster for the officials. As has been mentioned, the defensive holding on the Bengals was soft and out of line with what had been called all game. They missed a false start on the same play. And they missed an actual defensive holding on Henderson the play before.
In addition, there was an egregious missed holding call on the Rams earlier in the drive that I have not seen anyone talk about. On the 3rd and short run one play before Kupp's jet sweep, the Rams RT (#79?) tackled the Bengals lineman from behind. The Bengals lineman was about to blow up the RB at least 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage. It wasn't close; it was a hold that gets called 99/100. The Bengals likely get the ball back if that is called.
The Higgins missed OPI was really brutal. The refs calling the game in a "whichever way the wind blows" fashion unfortunately gives the NFL a WWE feel.
Also, related to the halftime show:
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I doubt Snoop, Dre, and Em get invited back.
Absolutely not. I totally agree that they don't care and that's what made it great. You might say:Do they need to be? They did what they wanted the way they wanted. I am pretty sure they won’t give a shit if they play another SB.
The man is in his 50s, he’s going to get all sorts of back and joint pain from performing.Wait Snoop was smoking weed! No way!
It was entertaining but I didn’t really get the “best show ever” stuff. But that’s all subjective anyways. We all like what we like. Definitely cool to see all of them together but it’s also kind of depressing for me to hear musical talent way past their prime. I’m perfectly fine mixing in some “old” years with the new acts.The man is in his 50s, he’s going to get all sorts of back and joint pain from performing.
I find any outrage (not here, on Twitter and other social media) about the half time show kind of funny because honestly, this was the equivalent of the Stones performing in 2006, a show by and for old people.
Wait, really? I thought it was pointless and kind of dumb. So Meadow and AJ are going to have a tender moment with smiles and hugs in front of the diner where their father got murdered?Ads were cool; loved the Sopranos call back.
Accessorized with Rams yellow as well.Or that Snoop was basically a gigantic walking crip bandanna, which flew right over the heads of anyone in a position to do anything about it.
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That play also followed a 3rd and 1 run to Perine. Wild stuff.Cincy had a missed 4th and 1 opportunity at midfield in the first half that ultimately was like a turnover. And the 4th and 1 on their final series was a horrible call. Why would a 4th and 1 ever be out of the shotgun?
With the game on the line, the Rams put the ball in the hands of their best player, Cooper Kupp, on the sweep play on fourth and 1 deep in their own territory, and then went to him again and again until he scored the TD that gave his team the lead.That play also followed a 3rd and 1 run to Perine. Wild stuff.
Considering that Justin Timberlake has been the only repeat performer this century, "being invited back" is not really a Super Bowl thing. (also Gloria Estefan in 1992 and 1999, and the immortal Up With People four times in the first 20 SBs.)Do they need to be? They did what they wanted the way they wanted. I am pretty sure they won’t give a shit if they play another SB.
Bruno Mars was the lead performer in the Broncos/Seahawks SB and then performed with Beyoncé at the Panthers/Broncos one.Considering that Justin Timberlake has been the only repeat performer this century, "being invited back" is not really a Super Bowl thing. (also Gloria Estefan in 1992 and 1999, and the immortal Up With People four times in the first 20 SBs.)