Spurs 2014-15: Have You Found Our Lost Argentine?

[coremiller]

Draxler is obviously a very good player, and would help this team a lot.

But I fear this means no Julian Green, who was "DONE DEAL!!!!" before the window opened.

 
In the battle of the German Julians, I'd take Draxler over Green right now, because Draxler is only two years older but has already played 100 times at senior level for Schalke.  We know he can step in immediately and cut it against quality competition, while Green is a still an unfinished prospect.  Draxler is also 5 inches taller and better suited to take the EPL's physical pounding.
 
I would take Draxler in a heartbeat at that price, but I would be surprised if Draxler could be had that cheaply.  Draxler's contract runs through 2018 and Schalke qualified for the CL this year, so there's no immediate pressure on Schalke to sell.  Surely they could get 25-30m at least for someone of his age/ability.

 

[teddykgb]

I don't see how on earth 17m is enough for Draxler.  I'm sure this is an opening position by Spurs, but I wonder if it is so cheap that there isn't room to even negotiate.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

I don't see how on earth 17m is enough for Draxler.  I'm sure this is an opening position by Spurs, but I wonder if it is so cheap that there isn't room to even negotiate.

 
Draxler is rumored to have a £37M release clause.  Nobody knows exactly how much Arsenal offered last January but best guesses have it in the £25-35M range (Schalke's Sporting Director confirmed that it was "a lot of money") and we were obviously turned down.
 
So, yeah, pretty much no way that £17M moves the needle.

 

[URI]

In the battle of the German Julians, I'd take Draxler over Green right now, because Draxler is only two years older but has already played 100 times at senior level for Schalke.  We know he can step in immediately and cut it against quality competition, while Green is a still an unfinished prospect.  Draxler is also 5 inches taller and better suited to take the EPL's physical pounding.
 
I would take Draxler in a heartbeat at that price, but I would be surprised if Draxler could be had that cheaply.  Draxler's contract runs through 2018 and Schalke qualified for the CL this year, so there's no immediate pressure on Schalke to sell.  Surely they could get 25-30m at least for someone of his age/ability.

Oh of course. But Green was rumored at £5.5m and getting Draxler ends that.

If given the choice between taking Green at £5.5m, and Draxler at £17m, you take Draxler and forget Green's name for a few years.

 

[Gunfighter 09]

I read one rumor that said Swansea turned down a Gyfli for Davies/Vrom swap.

I love this time of year.

The Vrom part officially makes no sense: 
 

 
 

We are delighted to announce that Hugo Lloris has committed his future to the Club with the signing of a new five-year contract.  

 “I spoke with the Chairman and I know the Club is as ambitious as ever,” said Hugo. “It’s very important to feel at home at a club and for my family to feel well. I enjoy a great relationship with the Club and the fans. The arrival of Mauricio Pochettino is important as well. I have a good feeling with him. He is also ambitious.
"Everything is clear in my head and if I’ve signed a new contract it’s because I trust the Club and I’m sure we will progress in a positive way.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/new-deal-for-hugo-100714/

 
 
Lloris has to be the new Captain, correct? Lennon would seem like the only alternative. 

 

[Homa]

I'm a Schalke fan and I'm nearly insulted by the 17m offer.
 
Arsenal offered far more and got rejected. The time to exercise the release clause (45m €) is over for this year, so you don't have that as an upper limit of the possible transfer fee and there is no way Schalke let's him go for less. Of course paying 45m € for Draxler is crazy. 
 
There is also the question why Draxler should go to Tottenham in the first place. Tottenham would be hard pressed to offer more money and they have less chance of playing in the CL than Schalke has.
 
 
Edit:
I looked up Tottenham's wage bill. They could offer Draxler more, but it would put him up or at least near the top of their list. Schalke pays less but still pretty well. 

 

[DJnVa]

The Vrom part officially makes no sense: 
 

 
Well, it makes no sense *now*. There were rumblings that Lloris wanted to move on.

 

[soxfan121]

 
Well, it makes no sense *now*. There were rumblings that Lloris wanted to move on.

 
Concerns he might wander away? Thoughts he might stray from his position? Talk of him slipping his tether?

 

[URI]

Vrom would back up Lloris and play in cups.

Because he'd make more than he would at Swandsea, and be able to play in Europe.

And because our backup keeper right now is 7293 years old.

And because Lloris might find PSG to be quite...attractive.

I could see Vertoghen, Kaboul, Lennon, Walker, Lloris, or even Sandro wear the armband when Dawson goes. Last on the list? Ade.

 

[coremiller]

If you are a Tottenham fan, you woke up to some great news this morning: French goalkeeper Hugo Lloris has signed a new five-year contract at the club. The France captain spoke to Mauricio Pochettino, the new Spurs manager, and the Argentinean convinced him to commit his future to the north London club.
Of course it doesn't mean that Lloris will spend the next five years at White Hart Lane. But it is a great sign that he believes the club is aiming in the right direction to break again in the top four and qualify for the Champions League. That's the competition Lloris wants to play in, having been disappointed to have missed out over the past two years. He is giving it another go but might well review his situation next summer if they again fail to qualify.

 
He signed a five-year contract and "committed his future" to the club, which means . . . he accepted a raise to stay at the club for at least one more season.  Some commitment.
 
http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/4/blog/post/1943359/despite-2014-world-cup-exit-french-players-coveted-in-transfer-window
 
Anyway, glad to see he's not leaving.

 

[soxfan121]

I could see Vertoghen, Kaboul, Lennon, Walker, Lloris, or even Sandro wear the armband when Dawson goes. Last on the list? Ade.

 
Bentaleb, aka "Timmy's Boy".

 

[Senator Donut]

Vrom would back up Lloris and play in cups.

Because he'd make more than he would at Swandsea, and be able to play in Europe.

And because our backup keeper right now is 7293 years old.

And because Lloris might find PSG to be quite...attractive.

I could see Vertoghen, Kaboul, Lennon, Walker, Lloris, or even Sandro wear the armband when Dawson goes. Last on the list? Ade.

What's so attractive about backing up Salvatore Sirigu at PSG?

 

[URI]

Because he would be making a trillion dollars, and also starting over Sirigu?

The rumor was £20M...I'm sure PSG would be interested in having the French keeper/captain sitting on the bench.

 

[DJnVa]

http://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com/2014/7/10/5887067/tottenham-hotspur-gylfi-sigurdsson-ben-davies-swap
 
The Davies-Gylfi swap still a thing?

 

[Senator Donut]

Because he would be making a trillion dollars, and also starting over Sirigu?

The rumor was £20M...I'm sure PSG would be interested in having the French keeper/captain sitting on the bench.

If Spurs turned down £20M for Lloris (which would be one of highest transfer fees on record for a goalkeeper), then Tottenham is even dumber than we thought them to be. Furthermore Lloris would be a moron to re-sign with a PSG offer on the table. So, I highly doubt that figure is accurate.

 

[URI]

I'm assuming the price leak was a Tottenham leak, not an offer. Like a billion teams do during the window.

And PSG showed interest...something they would not of done if they were going to have Lloris sit the bench.

 

[DJnVa]

Remy's buyout is  £11 million, not the  £8 million it was thought--only top 4 teams can the  £8 million buyout.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10968341/Tottenham-would-have-to-pay-out-11m-to-sign-Loic-Remy-while-top-four-clubs-can-sign-QPR-striker-for-8m.html
 
Also, Sandro to join AVB at Zenit Saint Petersburg?

Andre Villas-Boas, meanwhile, is considering trying to take his former Tottenham midfielder Sandro to Zenit Saint Petersburg.
 
Spurs are ready to listen to offers for Sandro, but want far more than the £8m Napoli are willing to pay.
 
Ex-Tottenham head coach Villas-Boas is now looking at the possibility of raiding his old club to link up with Sandro again. Sandro was one of the Spurs players who publically supported Villas-Boas before the Portuguese was sacked in December. With two years still remaining on his contract, Tottenham value Sandro at around £20m and it remains to be seen if Zenit would match that figure.
Sandro is popular inside White Hart Lane and is a favourite of the fans, but fell out with Villas-Boas’ replacement Tim Sherwood last season.

 
Oh, and Adebayor has malaria.

 

[soxfan121]

Oh, and Adebayor has malaria.

 
Literally or figuratively?

 

[URI]

He literally had malaria. Second guy from Spurs to have it in the last few years.

In other news...we've agreed to a deal with Swansea for Davies. But maybe not. IDK!!!!

 

[DJnVa]

Sandro sick and won't be playing during the Spurs tour of the US/Canada. Chiriches didn't travel either.

 

[swiftaw]

New Spurs kits:

 

[coremiller]

I hate the yellow.  At least it's just edge piping on the home kit.  The away kit is pretty terrible.

 

[DJnVa]

Ben Davies "close": http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/18/swanseas-ben-davies-close-to-sealing-tottenham-hotspur-switch-4803002/
 

Swansea City’s Ben Davies will reportedly seal his switch to Tottenham Hotspur on Friday.
 
The player was thought to be leaning towards signing for Brendan Rodgers’ side with Liverpool featuring in the Champions League next season, but, the defender was concerned that he might end up behind Alberto Moreno in the pecking order if the club were to finalise a move for the Sevilla left-back this summer.

 
 
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/tottenham-transfer-news-napolis-valon-behrami-could-join-spurs-as-rafa-benitez-revives-sandro-interest-9611630.html
 

Napoli have revived their interest in Tottenham midfielder Sandro and are keen to arrange a deal  that would see Valon Behrami move to White Hart Lane.
 

 

[DJnVa]

New Spurs kits:

 
 

 
You can't see it above, but there's some design going on in the shoulders. I just got this email---let's see if this works:
 

 

[URI]

If this is real, consider me excited...
 
Tottenham preparing to meet Griezmann's £25m release clause

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

If real, would be a massive get.
Griezmann, Eriksen, Lamela behind Soldado. Wow.

 

[URI]

Looks like Davies is officially done (he was training with the team in Toronto), and the rumor is it was for cash, and Gyfli, with Vorm moving back our way as well.

I've always wanted to see a keeper situation with a spastic, a grandfather, and a munchkin.

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

Vorm, too, has been sighted in training. So he's done.
At least we have a legit cup keeper.

 

[JayMags71]

What does Vorm's acquisition do to Lloris? Was Loris really that bad last year? This move seems parallel to Liverpool's acquisitions in that they've decided to fix an ancillary problem (keeper) before solving a primary problem (scoring).

"Yeah, I know all my windows are broken, but *this door* was on sale!"

 

[veritas]

What does Vorm's acquisition do to Lloris? Was Loris really that bad last year? This move seems parallel to Liverpool's acquisitions in that they've decided to fix an ancillary problem (keeper) before solving a primary problem (scoring).

"Yeah, I know all my windows are broken, but *this door* was on sale!"

 
Lloris was one of their few bright spots last year, with a few exceptions. He's still their starter unless they are selling him for a LOT of money.
 
Like the Davies signing. Now if they can replace Dawson with Lovren, that'll be a back four to be excited about

 

[URI]

What does Vorm's acquisition do to Lloris? Was Loris really that bad last year? This move seems parallel to Liverpool's acquisitions in that they've decided to fix an ancillary problem (keeper) before solving a primary problem (scoring).

"Yeah, I know all my windows are broken, but *this door* was on sale!"

It means...

1. Lloris can be rested during cup matches
2. Vorm will make more money than at Swansea
3. Lloris is still a top 3 keeper in England, and top 10 in the world
4. Spurs have a backup that isn't 11 years old (Archer) or 7823 years old (Friedel)

 

[URI]

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/492020767157411840

No turning back, boys

 

[DJnVa]

[repost]THIS IS THE YEAR!!![/repost]

 

[URI]

[repost]THIS IS THE YEAR!!![/repost]

I can't wait for me to break my hand after losing 1-0 to West Ham after Davies concusses Lloris and Vorm comes in, surrendering the goal to Andy Carroll for the Hammers win.

 

[soxfan121]

Any interest from Spurs on Schneiderlin or is that just Arsenal-fan BS?

 

[DJnVa]

I can't wait for me to break my hand after losing 1-0 to West Ham after Davies concusses Lloris and Vorm comes in, surrendering the goal to Andy Carroll for the Hammers win.

 
So, opening day?
 
 
The game against Toronto tonight is on ESPN2.

 

[URI]

Any interest from Spurs on Schneiderlin or is that just Arsenal-fan BS?

 
The rumor is we're in on him, and he wants to play for Pouch, but it's a rumor that's been floating for a week or so. I think we have to sell Sandro first.
 

So, opening day?

Yeah, I mean...isn't that how it goes usually?

 

[soxfan121]

"Pouch"? That's what you've decided on, "Pouch"? As in, "a joey goes in the pouch"?
 
Schneiderlin would be a good get for y'all, if Sandro goes. He is so defensively responsible that he'll probably save a few goals off the line after Hugo breaks his tether and goes a roamin.

 

[Gunfighter 09]

Sandro might not be the only Brazilian Spurs sell: 
 

 
Juventus are making a £20 million bid to sign the Brazilian midfielder Paulinho from Tottenham Hotspur.

The move is expected to pave the way for Arturo Vidal to leave the Italian champions although Manchester United, who have strongly been linked with the 27-year-old, deny they are close to agreeing a deal for the Chilean international.


According to sources in Italy, however, Paulinho is already being lined up as Vidal's replacement with Juventus confident that an offer for the Brazilian international will be accepted by Spurs.


The likelihood is, however, that Spurs's chairman Daniel Levy will want to receive more than £25 million before he will even consider selling Paulinho.

 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfers/10964252/Juventus-lining-up-20-million-bid-for-Tottenham-Hotspur-and-Brazil-midfielder-Paulinho.html
 
The rumored price is a profit for Levy & Baldini, so I can't say I would be opposed, and I wouldn't mind seeing Sherwood's binky Bentaleb playing more this year. 

 

[coremiller]

I haven't seen Davies play much, so I don't have an opinion on his quality, but we badly needed a half-decent LB so I'm glad to see them addressing a position of need. I think Vorm is basically insurance in case PSG make a godfather offer for Lloris.

I would love Schneiderlein, his clean distribution from the back would fill a niche that no one else in the squad could. But like everything else, I'll believe it when I see it.

Siggy never really made sense here. He'll be a good pickup for Swansea though. Potentially valuable fantasy asset if he takes over Michu's advanced role.

 

[DJnVa]

They were just called the Tottenham Spurs. Good job, good effort ESPN.

 

[veritas]

2 goals in 40 minutes for Lamela tonight vs Toronto

 

[URI]

"Pouch"? That's what you've decided on, "Pouch"? As in, "a joey goes in the pouch"?
 
Schneiderlin would be a good get for y'all, if Sandro goes. He is so defensively responsible that he'll probably save a few goals off the line after Hugo breaks his tether and goes a roamin.

No, it was me posting from my phone and "Poch" was autocorrected to Pouch.

I think Schneiderlin would be a great fit too. Sandro, as much as I love him and think he's an excellent DM, is never healthy.

 

[soxfan121]

Damned autocorrect.
 
Upon further review, Pouch is a nice way for me to avoid having to spell (and look up) Pochettino, so Pouch it is. 

 

[URI]

Things I hate more than autocorrect:

1. Michael Dawson.

That is all.

 

[mgoblue2]

Davies is a confusing one. I personally think Rose is much better. In terms of left backs I think they could have got more for their money. Vorm, however, is good value. Sigurdsson leaving is unfortunate, he was an inconsistent producer but was still a decent player.

 

[URI]

Davies is a confusing one. I personally think Rose is much better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

 

[mgoblue2]

Alright maybe not much better. Still, Davies didn't ever stand out to me when I watched Swansea last year in about 4-5 viewings. Rose is probably the weak link in the team but upgrading him with Davies is slightly confusing to me. Sure he can get better but I don't think he'll ever be a top five LB in the league. Neither will Rose, of course, but he's still 24 and could improve a little.

 

[URI]

Davies is 21.

And he's one of the best defensive LB in the Premier League right now. He doesn't do as well getting forward, but Spurs don't need that width if Lamela is healthy.

He's a great fit for Poch's system.

And he's better, overall, than Rose is this very second. I watched Swansea more than a few times last year too and he was very good. I watched Danny Rose about 30 times too many last year.

He's got talent for a mid-table team, but there is a reason why almost everyone was saying Spurs biggest hole is LB. Saying Rose is better at all...let alone much better...than Ben Davies is lunacy. It's like me saying that the only reason Per Mertersacker was dropped from Germany was because of the flu.

 

[DJnVa]

[It's only been against MLS teams]So, Lamela has looked pretty good huh?[/It's only been against MLS teams]