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I don't hate this at all.
EDIT: Velazquez DFA'd to make room for McHugh.
I don't hate this at all.
EDIT: Velazquez DFA'd to make room for McHugh.
Nope that’s a solid move. Desperately needed depth.
Injured 3 years ago.He's pitched 63-74 innings the last three years, are we thinking of him as a regular starter for part of the season, or a 3 innings every 3 days guy?
Is there a word for “retroactively depressing”?And just for fun...
Price (2017-2019): 3.75 era, 122 era+, 3.82 fip, 1.20 whip, 9.6 k/9
McHugh (2017-2019): 3.42 era, 126 era+, 3.66 fip, 1.14 whip, 10.2 k/9
That's REALLY skewed toward his numbers as a reliever.And just for fun...
Price (2017-2019): 3.75 era, 122 era+, 3.82 fip, 1.20 whip, 9.6 k/9
McHugh (2017-2019): 3.42 era, 126 era+, 3.66 fip, 1.14 whip, 10.2 k/9
It's just about trying to accumulate cheap arms with upside.Is this the Sale insurance or will they do plug-and-play with relievers until he comes back from his illness/injury/whatever?
Right. Over that same time period:That's REALLY skewed toward his numbers as a reliever.
This team was already short of decent arms before Sale got hurt. I can't imagine they were saying "We're not going to give McHugh a few hundred thousand dollars" before the Sale news.Is this the Sale insurance or will they do plug-and-play with relievers until he comes back from his illness/injury/whatever?
No doubt, but that's true for most pitchers (i.e., most are better as relievers than as starters). Here's McHugh's career splits:That's REALLY skewed toward his numbers as a reliever.
He's been dealing with elbow issues of his own, and only started throwing in the past week or so. Teams (including us) were probably waiting to see how that went. Evidently OK, but it looks like he won't be ready to go right out of the gate from what I'm reading.Wow, excellent move. Surprised no one else nabbed him if his cost was under $1m. Hope he's healthy.
Yup. He slipped on that front last year, but before that had five straight years with HR/FB under 12.He's another guy who, like Martin Perez, is really good at suppressing hard contact.
He'll probably be back in AAA and if not, oh well.Don't like dfa of Velasquez. Keep your depth. Put Sale on the 60 day il. It's already looking inevitable that even without surgery he's missing the first couple months.
Putting Sale on the 60-day would be a pretty extreme move since they don't really know yet how bad his problem is. Velasquez is a commodity-quality pitcher; he's not the kind of depth you worry about losing.Don't like dfa of Velasquez. Keep your depth. Put Sale on the 60 day il. It's already looking inevitable that even without surgery he's missing the first couple months.
2014-2016. 4 seasons ago.McHugh's numbers from 2014-2017:
102 g, 102 starts, 48-28, 3.70 era, 3.60 fip, 106 era+, 1.25 whip, 8.4 k/9
I'd be THRILLED with that this year.
I believe you can’t put anyone on any IL until the season starts.Putting Sale on the 60-day would be a pretty extreme move since they don't really know yet how bad his problem is. Velasquez is a commodity-quality pitcher; he's not the kind of depth you worry about losing.
No, 2014-2017. And yes, a few years ago. But that's the last time he was a regular starter.2014-2016. 4 seasons ago.
Not true. Pedroia already is.I believe you can’t put anyone on any IL until the season starts.
And almost 5 innings per start. I like this signing by Chaim.No, 2014-2017. And yes, a few years ago. But that's the last time he was a regular starter.
In 2019, here were his starts:
5.0 ip, 3 h, 2 r, 2 er, 1 bb, 9 k
6.0 ip, 3 h, 1 r, 1 er, 3 bb, 4 k
6.0 ip, 4 h, 2 r, 2 er, 1 bb, 9 k
6.0 ip, 2 h, 0 r, 0 er, 2 bb, 5 k
3.1 ip, 8 h, 10 r, 9 er, 1 bb, 1 k
5.2 ip, 4 h, 3 r, 3 er, 2 bb, 9 k
6.0 ip, 5 h, 4 r, 4 er, 1 bb, 2 k
3.0 ip, 7 h, 8 r, 8 er, 3 bb, 3 k
So two disasters, two so-so starts, and 4 good ones.
But that's a carryover from last year. I think DD is right that the rules don't allow a player to be placed on any of the ILs during the offseason.Not true. Pedroia already is.
Absolutely. But it's been a while since he's been an effective starter. It's a good, no-risk signing, just pointing out comparing his number and Price's is apples and oranges.No doubt, but that's true for most pitchers (i.e., most are better as relievers than as starters). Here's McHugh's career splits:
Starter: 4.14 era, 1.28 whip, 8.3 k/9
Reliever: 2.76 era, 1.10 whip, 11.0 k/9
I'll happily take a 4.14 era, 1.28 whip, 8.3 k/9 starter for that money, won't you?
We have worse dreck on the 40-man. I'd rather keep Velazquez, who was good in 2018, over most of these guys: Matt Hall, Phillips Valdez, Jeffrey Springs, Osich, Brice, or Shawaryn.Velasquez is a commodity-quality pitcher; he's not the kind of depth you worry about losing.
That's not a carryover from last year. There is no IL in the off-season. No one can be on it, including guys like Pedroia who end the season there. They announced last week that Pedroia was going on the 60-day IL. I'm unsure of that means it will happen the first day it's allowed (say, a week before Opening Day or something) or if it is an immediate move.But that's a carryover from last year. I think DD is right that the rules don't allow a player to be placed on any of the ILs during the offseason.
Looks like Pedroia was placed on the 60-day IL on 2/23/20But that's a carryover from last year. I think DD is right that the rules don't allow a player to be placed on any of the ILs during the offseason.
Would love to be the Rays....with a $208 million budget.The Sox' slow transformation into the Rays takes another step forward. (Not really saying that's a bad thing given that the Rays won 96 games last year.)
Considering the amount he signed for, I'm not sure why people are assuming that will be his role especially since he was close to dominate in his time as a bullpen arm. If he's having a good year and the Sox are out of it, he'd probably get an ok return at the deadline too.Absolutely. But it's been a while since he's been an effective starter. It's a good, no-risk signing, just pointing out comparing his number and Price's is apples and oranges.
Yes, you can put guys onto the 60 day IL on the first day of pitchers and catchers to clear a roster spot but the 60 days starts Opening Day.Looks like Pedroia was placed on the 60-day IL on 2/23/20
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/transactions/?tcid=mm_mlb_news#month=2&year=2020&team_id=111
If McHugh was available this cheaply I can’t imagine someone claiming HVHe'll probably be back in AAA and if not, oh well.
I think coming off an arm injury after years of use as a reliever would make it pretty unlikely he'd be built up in just a few weeks to be a starter. But they can use all the arms they can get, and cheap ones are the ones they can sign. He seems like a decent gamble.Considering the amount he signed for, I'm not sure why people are assuming that will be his role especially since he was close to dominate in his time as a bullpen arm. If he's having a good year and the Sox are out of it, he'd probably get an ok return at the deadline too.
He does make some sense as an opener since the Sox should have a pretty good bullpen, at least on paper.
He's not really any different than Brian Johnson (or Denyi Reyes) and they both passed through waivers. HV is pretty much the definition of easily replaceable talent.If McHugh was available this cheaply I can’t imagine someone claiming HV
Thanks for clarifying.That's not a carryover from last year. There is no IL in the off-season. No one can be on it, including guys like Pedroia who end the season there. They announced last week that Pedroia was going on the 60-day IL. I'm unsure of that means it will happen the first day it's allowed (say, a week before Opening Day or something) or if it is an immediate move.
He was a full-time starter until 2018, and started 2019 as one. I think his recent history does argue against him being slotted in as a regular rotation guy, but he's certainly got plenty of history, including recent history, in both roles.I think coming off an arm injury after years of use as a reliever would make it pretty unlikely he'd be built up in just a few weeks to be a starter. But they can use all the arms they can get, and cheap ones are the ones they can sign. He seems like a decent gamble.
He had zero games started in 2018. He was a full time starter in 2017, but only stared 12 games. With a quick glance I had assumed he was relieving part of that year, but I guess he was just a starter and then injured. He started 8 of 35 games last year and got injured. I think with him currently just starting coming back from an injury and starting training camp late because of it, and getting injured in years when he's been asked to start over the last 3 years, reliever is the only possible option for him this season.He was a full-time starter until 2018, and started 2019 as one. I think his recent history does argue against him being slotted in as a regular rotation guy, but he's certainly got plenty of history, including recent history, in both roles.