Sons of Peter McNeeley- Boxing Thread

[BGrif21125]

Wow. That didn't take long.

I thought Morales could produce one more great effort, I was wrong. But he did go down swinging. Hopefully he knows enough to call it quits, because he is finished. He's got nothing to keep fighting for, he'll be in the HOF the first day he's eligible.

I expect Pacquiao-Barrera II next year.

 

[BigA27]

Complete and total stomping.

Morales is done. Too many wars.

Pac overwhelmed him with speed and power. His right hand has gotten so much better. In the 2nd fight it was good, in the 3rd is was phenomenal. His jab and his right hook were excellent.

Pac will destroy Barrera again in the rematch.
Flip Elvis is again victorious.

 

[BGrif21125]

I like Pacquiao, I'm just disappointed to see Morales lose, because he's always been one of my favorite fighters, and I didn't want to see him remembered as the guy who lost two of the greatest trilogies in history. I thought he deserved at least one of them. But oh well.

Pac will destroy Barrera again in the rematch.

[post="536746"][/post]​

I agree. Barrera has every bit as much wear and tear as Morales. It's just that Barrera has been able to hide it a little longer because he is willing to box and fight defensively, whereas Morales knows nothing but going straight ahead.
Juarez wasn't skilled enough to break Barrera's defense, but Pacquiao is. I have a feeling Barrera's career may be over soon like Morales'.

 

[Gene Conleys Plane Ticket]

In a way, I'm glad this one was over quickly, and I'm also glad that Morales had the good sense to know when he was beaten. The guy has been such a thrilling fighter over the years, I really don't want to hear that in 10 or 15 years he's got Parkinson's Disease. That was a pretty exciting nine minutes of boxing, the second round especially. But if it had gone on much longer, Morales was in for a dangerous beating. Time for him to hang up the gloves.

Pacquiao, on the other hand, is a dynamo. I hope the politics of the Golden Boy-Top Rank (i.e. De La Hoya-Arum) feud don't stand in the way of the Barrera rematch or, even better, another showdown with Juan Manuel Marquez. Marquez gave Manny fits the first time in their brutal draw. They are both better fighters now than they were then. That should be a rematch for the ages. I can see that one becoming a memorable trilogy. A second fight alone won't be enough to settle it.

As for the news of the Calzaghe-Manfredo fight, all I can say is that the Contender people must be cashing out early on Manfredo. I'm glad to see him getting a shot on the big stage but let's face it, he's just not ready. I'd rather see him in there with another contender (with a small "c") or two or three before he takes on a fighter of Calzaghe's caliber. How about matching Calzaghe against the winnner of the Showtime ShoBox super-middleweight tournament, which wil be decided on Jan. 5. Either Anthony Hanshaw or Jean Paul Mendy would be a great fight for Manfredo and if he wins he'll have true credibility in the sport.

As it is, by getting blown out by Calzaghe as I expect, all that does is confirm the fans and boxing media's suspicions the Contender (capital "C") fighters were all hype all along.

 

[BGrif21125]

I hope the politics of the Golden Boy-Top Rank (i.e. De La Hoya-Arum) feud don't stand in the way of the Barrera rematch or, even better, another showdown with Juan Manuel Marquez.

[post="536797"][/post]​

I think there's just too much money to be made from Barrera-Pacquiao II for it not to happen. If Barrera really wants that fight, I think it'll get done. At this stage of his career, I don't think Barrera should take that fight, but you know how things go when the Barrera-Morales feud is involved. Morales wanted Pacquiao because he wanted to beat the guy who beat Barrera, now Barrera wants Pacquiao because he wants to beat the guy who beat Morales.

I didn't see Pacquiao-Marquez, I can't remember why I didn't watch it. Looks like Marquez was down three times but still managed a draw, he must have really outboxed him to make up all those points.

I'm excited to see the Showtime doubleheader in two weeks. It's really time for the young welterweights to step up, as that division is now the future of the sport, with the featherweight division ready to pass the torch as the best division in boxing.

Finally, I've got a question. It looks like Jermain Taylor is looking at Sergio Mora after Ouma, and then a move up to 168. Which means that Winky will have blown his only chance for another big money fight at 160. Does Winky consider moving back down to 154 and challenging the winner of Mayweather-DLH? It's really his only chance for a big money fight.

 

[Gene Conleys Plane Ticket]

I think there's just too much money to be made from Barrera-Pacquiao II for it not to happen. If Barrera really wants that fight, I think it'll get done. At this stage of his career, I don't think Barrera should take that fight, but you know how things go when the Barrera-Morales feud is involved. Morales wanted Pacquiao because he wanted to beat the guy who beat Barrera, now Barrera wants Pacquiao because he wants to beat the guy who beat Morales.

True, but Barrera also wants to beat the guy who beat HIM. Pacquiao laid a pretty serious ass-kicking on him at a time whe MAB was considered to top 3 PFP fighter. Barrera's corner had to jump in and stop the fight, which must have been pretty humiliating for a blood 'n' guts Mexican warrior like MAB.

Unfortunately for MAB, I see that fight as a replay of what happened to Morales. Maybe the 6th or 7th round rather than the 3rd because MAB has much slicker boxing skills than Morales. But he won'e be able to keep the Pac-Man from gobbling him up eventually.

I didn't see Pacquiao-Marquez, I can't remember why I didn't watch it. Looks like Marquez was down three times but still managed a draw, he must have really outboxed him to make up all those points.

HBO rebroadcast it sometime last year and I recorded it so I'll have to check it out again. As I recall, Marquez boxing ability did give Pacquiao fits.

I'm excited to see the Showtime doubleheader in two weeks. It's really time for the young welterweights to step up, as that division is now the future of the sport, with the featherweight division ready to pass the torch as the best division in boxing.

Finally, I've got a question. It looks like Jermain Taylor is looking at Sergio Mora after Ouma, and then a move up to 168. Which means that Winky will have blown his only chance for another big money fight at 160. Does Winky consider moving back down to 154 and challenging the winner of Mayweather-DLH? It's really his only chance for a big money fight.

[post="537418"][/post]​

I don't know, I think HBO wants that rematch to happen, which is why they're showcasing Taylor and Wright on back-to-back weekends in December. I'll bet we see the rematch in March or April.


Interestingly, though I expect both Wright and Taylor to win those fights, neither is a walkover. Ike Quartey is a bit past his prime, but he's very aggressive and should bother Winky much the way Sam Soliman did, but with more punching power. And Taylor has to face the always-difficult Kassim Ouma, who is the most relentless volume puncher in the sport, often averaging well over 100 punches per round, regularly cracking the 1,000-pinch mark in his fights. Taylor has a huge size and power advantage, but if fights in the same tentative style he's shown lately, he could find himself getting tattooed by Ouma's machine-like attack.

 

[asimonetti]

Coverage:

Erie Times
PGH Post Gazette


the pride of pittsburgh paul spadafora returns to the ring wednesday night against jesus zepeda of indiana in erie, pa. spadafora is fighting as a jr. welterweight--he was previously the IBF lightweight champ.

pictures will be posted as soon as i have some time to get them on photobucket--i think our seats are in the second row, so there should be some good shots.

there is coverage in the erie times-news and pittsburgh post gazette, i tried to get the links to go directly to the stories but ETN requires a registration on some stories and PPG was giving me an error message. just wanted to let boxing fans know this is happening!

(!!!11LOL!!!1)

 

[BGrif21125]

I didn't realize Spadafora was already returning to the ring. Is he coming off a prison stint or am I confusing him with someone else?
Look forward to the pics. Try to include some of the ring card girls.

 

[Sille Skrub]

Flip Elvis is again victorious.

[post="536746"][/post]​

Amen, brotha.

I just watched the fight. Great fight for the Pac man. I was a little nervous when I heard Freddie Roach worrying about how Pac had lost his focus with all of his other ventures and all of his other issues. Plenty of comedy in this one including the dude holding the belt up during the anthem, Pac coming out to his own song and the post-fight interviews.

Great point about how Pac has improved with the right hand. He looks like he is improving with every fight which is quite remarkable. I found it interesting that they both went to the "punchers" gloves. The shots of Morales looking to his corner after that last KO were striking.

I need to get to one of Pac's fights. In Vegas.

 

[BGrif21125]

Skrub, we know you have Pacman's album. This is the place to come clean, hardly anyone reads this thread.

I just can't wait for the day when Manny starts performing his songs live as he walks to the ring, like Roy Jones used to do with his rap songs.

 

[Spacemans Bong]

Looks like Calzaghe-Manfredo is on for the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff in March sometime.

BBC report

Don't know what this achieves. Probably a thank you to the home fans for Calzaghe and a way to get his name out there for the Americans. After this, it sounds like Calzaghe is planning a mega fight vs Jermain Taylor in the US. Shame - I'd love to see a twin card of Hatton and Calzaghe vs big fighters in Cardiff, mostly because it's been a while since boxing has had a 70,000 crowd for the fights.

 

[BGrif21125]

Hatton is in line to fight Jose Luis Castillo at 140 in early '07 in what will be an instant candidate for fight of the year. It looks like Taylor will be fighting Sergio Mora however, so unfortunately a British Isles doubleheader appears unlikely for now.

Is Millenium Stadium outdoors or indoors? March in Cardiff doesn't sound too warm. I've always assumed that my Welsh ancestors didn't come from the most pleasant of climates.

 

[Spacemans Bong]

Hatton is in line to fight Jose Luis Castillo at 140 in early '07 in what will be an instant candidate for fight of the year. It looks like Taylor will be fighting Sergio Mora however, so unfortunately a British Isles doubleheader appears unlikely for now.

Is Millenium Stadium outdoors or indoors? March in Cardiff doesn't sound too warm. I've always assumed that my Welsh ancestors didn't come from the most pleasant of climates.

[post="540697"][/post]​

It's a retractable roof stadium. Having watched rugby there - it was built by the Welsh rugby union - I can say it's the best stadium I've ever been in and would be a contender for the best NFL stadium.

They'll probably drape off part of the stadium (it holds 74,000) to create a smaller venue for Calzaghe-Manfredo. Maybe 20,000-25,000.

It's a shame they can't get Hatton and Calzaghe on the same card. Both men are promoted by Frank Warren and due to the high profile both have in the UK, where boxing's still a popular working man's sport and the fights are carried on ITV, you could get a HUGE crowd if you got big fights for both on the same card. In Cardiff you'd get the Welsh fans and Hatton's Manchester fans are only a couple hours away. Get great fights for both and you could get 80,000 into the joint. It'd be required viewing just for the crowd.

 

[Lanternjaw]

Calzaghe schooled Lacey in front of about 50,000 in Manchester about a year ago... thats the largest fight crowd I can ever remember for a live fight during my boxing viewing days. I suppose that doesn't hold a candle to the crowds of yesteryear, when Dempsey and Johnson were drawing 100K+, but its still a massive showing for any weight division.

 

[Spacemans Bong]

Unfortunately Calzaghe-Lacy was in the MEN Arena, which only holds around 20,000 for boxing. Of course 20K's still better than any fight in the US has gotten since the stadium era. Hatton and Calzaghe are potential stadium draws in in their hometowns, which would be great for the sport.

You can get the Calzaghe-Lacy fight on DVD here. Something I may do.

In other news, the brilliant Willie Pep has died. One of the first things you hear about as a new fight fan is Pep winning a round without throwing a punch.

 

[BGrif21125]

As for the biggest crowds in recent years, I know Julio Cesar Chavez fought in Azteca Stadium in Mexico City in front of something like 130,000. I want to say Greg Haugen was his opponent.

As for the US, Chavez and Pernell Whitaker fought in front of 70,000 at the Alamodome in '93. I don't think there's been anything close to that in a long time, since all the big US fights moved to the casinos.

 

[Lanternjaw]

Christ -- I'd forgotten about those Chavez fights. Good call.

I could swear the showtime duo was touting the Lacey/Calzaghe crowd as being 50k+... I'm way off if they only had 20K. Regardless, I loved that fight. For whatever reason I really enjoy watching the network marquees get stunned.

 

[BGrif21125]

Just watched the Marquez-Jaca fight. Very entertaining bout.

Marquez fought much more flat-footed than normal and was really loading up on his punches. It made for a lot of action, but if he tries to fight that way against Pacquiao, he's asking for trouble.
If that rematch does happen, there will have been about 3 years between fights, and you would have to think that the time benefitted Manny more than Marquez, who is now 33. Also, Marquez only weighed 124 the other night (and has never fought above 126), and any Pacquiao fight would be at 130 (and Manny weighed 144 last week against Morales).
Still, I would definitely pay to see Pacquiao-Marquez II, and I think Marquez has a much better chance to beat Pacquiao than Barrera. Marquez is old, but has nowhere close to as much wear and tear as Barrera.

However, it's called "prize" fighting for a reason, and if Barrera wants a rematch (which is debatable), then I can't fault Manny for shunning Marquez and taking a fight with Barrera.
MAB has the big name and therefore will bring a much bigger payday.

BTW, HBO really needs to get rid of Fran Charles. He seems like a nice guy but he brings nothing to the table. It's too bad Brian Kenny is locked up at ESPN, he's got a great boxing mind, and already has worked with Kellerman before. That would be a great team for Boxing After Dark.

 

[eddiew112]

It's a retractable roof stadium. Having watched rugby there - it was built by the Welsh rugby union - I can say it's the best stadium I've ever been in and would be a contender for the best NFL stadium.

They'll probably drape off part of the stadium (it holds 74,000) to create a smaller venue for Calzaghe-Manfredo. Maybe 20,000-25,000.

It's a shame they can't get Hatton and Calzaghe on the same card. Both men are promoted by Frank Warren and due to the high profile both have in the UK, where boxing's still a popular working man's sport and the fights are carried on ITV, you could get a HUGE crowd if you got big fights for both on the same card. In Cardiff you'd get the Welsh fans and Hatton's Manchester fans are only a couple hours away. Get great fights for both and you could get 80,000 into the joint. It'd be required viewing just for the crowd.

[post="541393"][/post]​

I dont think Ricky is still promoted by Frank Warren, he is promoted by Fight Academy now.

 

[Spacemans Bong]

I dont think Ricky is still promoted by Frank Warren, he is promoted by Fight Academy now.

[post="544546"][/post]​

you're right. some bad blood between the two now - Warren sued for breach of contract. Oh well.

Looks like Calzaghe's card will feature Enzo Maccarelli, the WBO cruiseweight champ. It'll be a warmup before both men go to the States.

 

[BGrif21125]

I assume Amir Khan (a young Brit considered by some to be the best prospect in the entire sport) would be included in any big future cards in England/Wales. He fought at Millenium once this past summer.

 

[BigA27]

Hatton is promoted by Artie Pellulo (spelling may not be right on) Acelino Freitas former promoter.

Hatton-Castillo would be a barn burner. I hope that fight is on the East Coast, as I would desperatly love to attend it.

 

[eddiew112]

Hope everyone watches the best fighter in the world on Saturday night.

 

[BGrif21125]

Hope everyone watches the best fighter in the world on Saturday night.

[post="549787"][/post]​

Floyd's fighting again tomorrow night?? Wow, he just fought 12 rounds 4 weeks ago!!!!

I'll be checking out the HBO card on replay sometime on Sunday. The welterweight doubleheader on Showtime is the more intriguing event of the weekend for me.

I really don't care who wins either Showtime fight, just hoping that the two winners put together impressive performances and establish themselves as legit contenders in boxing's best division.

EDIT: Actually it looks like the HBO card starts 45 minutes after Showtime, so there should be a chance to watch Clottey-Margarito, Cotto-Quintana, and then switch over in time for Winky-Quartey. 3 big fights in one night. That doesn't suck.

 

[eddiew112]

Ill be back and forth. Come on BGrif even if you think Winky isnt better than Floyd all around he is much more exciting to watch. Watching his destruction of Shane Mosley on replay last night was boxing mastery.

 

[BGrif21125]

Ill be back and forth. Come on BGrif even if you think Winky isnt better than Floyd all around he is much more exciting to watch. Watching his destruction of Shane Mosley on replay last night was boxing mastery.

[post="550209"][/post]​

I was just kidding with you Eddie. Yes, I do think Floyd should be considered the undisputed #1 PFP guy, but I respect those who argue for Wright.
Winky is certainly a technical master, and I don't have a problem with his style. I don't find Winky to be that exciting, but unlike most people, I have no problems with fighters who win while getting hit as little as possible. If you can win without taking risks, that's being smart, so I respect Winky for fighting that way. I would like to see Winky throw more crosses and hooks out of his stance, but what he's doing is working so I can't argue with his strategy.

I just don't get the people who are arguing that Manny should be considered #1 now, Mayweather would've chewed Pacquiao up and spit him out within 7 or 8 rounds if they had fought at 130! But I digress....

OTOH, I've been stuck the last couple days over on saddoboxing.com (a good place to go if you need round-by-round updates of a fight you can't get on tv, btw) trying to convince all these crazed Barrera fans that their man is going to get KO'd if he tries to get in the ring with Manny again.

I'm interested to see how Cotto looks tonight against a dangerous opponent. I see a lot of holes in Cotto's game and I'm skeptical about him living up to the hype at this point.

 

[Daily Conundrum]

I'm interested to see how Cotto looks tonight against a dangerous opponent. I see a lot of holes in Cotto's game and I'm skeptical about him living up to the hype at this point.

[post="550250"][/post]​

It's not hype, as you just saw. Cotto can box, has incredible power AND remarkable accuracy. His defense is not the best, but it's definitely not so bad to put him in the "hype" category. This guy's for real.

 

[BGrif21125]

It's not hype, as you just saw. Cotto can box, has incredible power AND remarkable accuracy. His defense is not the best, but it's definitely not so bad to put him in the "hype" category. This guy's for real.

[post="550704"][/post]​

Yes, Cotto definitely impressed me tonight. He sure can throw the left hook to the body, and that's one hell of a weapon to have. He punished Quintana in that 5th round.
I still worry about his chin (he's been rocked in several fights) and I think that his lack of commitment to the jab is frustrating and could cause major problems against better opponents.
But regardless of all that, very impressive TKO tonight against a good opponent. I look forward to his next fight, whoever the opponent ends up being.

And as impressed as I was with Cotto, I was equally not impressed with Margarito. Clottey was tattooing him thru the first 4 rounds before he hurt his hand. I don't like Margarito's chances against either Williams or Cotto, let alone the guys he's been calling out like Mayweather.

 

[Daily Conundrum]

Yeah, Margarito left much to be desired. I think it's time for him to hang 'em up.

 

[BGrif21125]

One other thing I'll add about Cotto. One thing that I saw in his last fight against Malinaggi (sp?) was that he didn't seem to have good balance. He would lunge in to throw his body shots and looked awkward at times. It affected his power because his legs weren't completely beneath him.
Tonight he seemed to be much more upright and I thought his legs appeared to be stronger. I have to think this is a result of moving up to 147. By all accounts, he had a ton of trouble making weight at 140 and that may have affected his legs in those fights.

 

[BGrif21125]

I don't know if anyone else read about this, but James Toney has hired Billy Blanks to be his personal trainer. Maybe I'm overly-pessimistic, but somehow I can't picture Toney getting up every morning to do Taebo. I don't think he even runs anymore.

 

[Carmen Fanzone]

Anybody see the Ali Rap feature on the front of ESPN.com today.

I've seen the show, and gotta say its unlike anything else you've seen on ESPN. Really bridges the gap between Ali the athlete and Ali the historic figure in a very contemporary way.

Check out the Chuck D music video on the ESPN Motion player on the front of ESPN.com too. Pretty cool.

 

[BGrif21125]

Pernell Whitaker and Roberto Duran were elected to the Hall of Fame yesterday, along with about 10 others.

Interesting article up on espn.com about Kassim Ouma.
Link

Also, Erik Morales is considering fighting Casamayor at 135 for the lightweight title. This is a bad move and just the type of decision that I was worried he'd make.

 

[Lanternjaw]

Ouma showed some game against Taylor last night but in the end was about as effective as a mosquito. Guy can eat a hard punch, though.

From what I've seen of Taylor in his last four fiights, the Joe Calzaghe that humiliated Jeff Lacy will similarly undress Taylor, should they ever fight.

 

[BGrif21125]

From what I've seen of Taylor in his last four fiights, the Joe Calzaghe that humiliated Jeff Lacy will similarly undress Taylor, should they ever fight.

[post="559457"][/post]​

I've seen very little of Calzaghe over the years, so I don't feel qualified to make many comments about what he can or can't do. But based on what I've read about Calzaghe and what I've seen with Taylor, I agree with you.
It's frustrating to watch someone like Taylor, who has been blessed with above average height, reach, and body size for a middleweight, and then he spends the entire night backing up and throwing wild power shots against a smaller opponent.

I was expecting Taylor to come out and establish his jab and control Ouma in the center of the ring. Taylor certainly won the fight, but I don't think he controlled the ring generalship, and to move up in weight and beat a legitimate champ like Calzaghe, you have to be able to do that.

Sometimes I get a little over-obsessed with the jab, but it blows my mind why a guy like Taylor insists on holding his hands low, retreating to the ropes, and then winging power shots.

 

[eddiew112]

I've seen very little of Calzaghe over the years, so I don't feel qualified to make many comments about what he can or can't do. But based on what I've read about Calzaghe and what I've seen with Taylor, I agree with you.
It's frustrating to watch someone like Taylor, who has been blessed with above average height, reach, and body size for a middleweight, and then he spends the entire night backing up and throwing wild power shots against a smaller opponent.

I was expecting Taylor to come out and establish his jab and control Ouma in the center of the ring. Taylor certainly won the fight, but I don't think he controlled the ring generalship, and to move up in weight and beat a legitimate champ like Calzaghe, you have to be able to do that.

Sometimes I get a little over-obsessed with the jab, but it blows my mind why a guy like Taylor insists on holding his hands low, retreating to the ropes, and then winging power shots.

[post="560254"][/post]​

You can never get over-obsessed with the jab!! From the times I have seen Joe, he would tear apart Jermain if he didnt change his game. Now Joe tried to go toe to toe with Bika, and their was some trouble, so if Jermain could appeal to Joe's fighting instincts then he could win. But if that does not happen, I think its very possible to see another Lacy scenario.

I actually think Peter Manfredo will give Joe a pretty good fight. Peter has improved by leaps and bounds since he hooked up with Freddie Roach, and going into Calzaghe's house, he will be in a "nothing to lose" mode, which can make him dangerous. Peter is pretty slick and has better power than people give him credit for. He clearly won the second fight he had with Mora. Plus, it will be great to see a local guy get a major shot. The only major problem is that he is making a huge jump in competition way to fast. Joe Spina to Joe Calzaghe? Thats quite the story.

I can't wait for this supposed Ricky Hatton-JLC fight to happen.

How the hell did a judge almost give Kassim Ouma that fight. He tricks judges. Lampley was right on about what he said about the Powell fight. One guy had the fight 100-90 for Ouma, and another had it 96-94 for Powell. That is way to large off a differential.

Some interesting prospects are in New England right now. Check out Joe McCreedy, Mike Oliver, or Jason Estrada if you have the chance. Oliver just won the USBA super bantam weight belt.

On the national prospects alert, Andre Berto looked impressive with that power. He needs to fight for a title, now. Andy Lee is 6-0, Emanuel is bringing him along well. John Duddy is 18-0, after surviving that test from Yory Boy Campas. Amir Khan won his first title at age 20, he is the one of the best prospects in the world.

The great Polish champion, Tomasz Adamek, will fight Chad Dawson in Feb. Chad Dawson is from New Haven. It will be in defense of Adamek's WBC light heavy belt.

The next great thing in boxing are Australian fighters. Australia is becoming an amazing athletic nation. Australia's boxing is still in the stage when its a true racial battle. See Danny Green (white working-class hero) and Anthony Mundine's (black hero) rivalry. The last fight that was really hyped along ethnic lines in America was the Cotto-Malignaggi fight. I remember Italian and PR guys on boxing boards talking about who could whip whom in any fight. I am sorry, but this side of boxing is hilarious, and it is almost kind of sad that it has moved on with the times .

 

[BGrif21125]

You can never get over-obsessed with the jab!!

[post="560542"][/post]​

You're probably right. When I watch Taylor, I see a guy who could be an unstoppable offensive fighter if he based everything around his jab. And it's not like he doesn't have a good one, when he throws it, it's very effective. But he goes rounds at a time where it's like he's forgotten he has a jab.

Amir Khan won his first title at age 20, he is the one of the best prospects in the world.

The Khan fight is up on youtube, I'll probably check it out tomorrow. From what I've read, some people are considering Khan's performance a disappointment. He had to go the distance, and supposedly got stunned a couple times by his opponent, who has 0 KO's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdFS7MDUdnE

EDIT: Just watched it. I actually thought he looked good. All the offensive tools are there, defense could use some work though.

 

[Spacemans Bong]

There is some awesome boxing stuff on youtube. Put in something and I bet there'll be at the very worst highlight clips.

 

[eddiew112]

Well we all have to remember that Khan is only 20 years old as well. I am dissapointed that the Duddy-Campas fight is not on youtube.

 

[BGrif21125]

I believe Khan is scheduled to be in the undercard fight on the HBO telecast of Calzaghe-Manfredo. Looking forward to it.

 

[eddiew112]

He is. I can't wait for that fight. It will be free!

 

[BGrif21125]

Khan is going to fight on the undercard of the Audley Harrison fight at Wembley Arena on February 17. If he wins, that should leave him enough time off to fight again on April 7 on the undercard of Calzaghe-Manfredo. Six weeks is an adequate layoff when you're fighting stepping stone opponents.

 

[BGrif21125]

Word is that Shane Mosley will be fighting Kermit Cintron on HBO on Feb 10.

Also, Vargas may be close to signing a deal to fight Mayorga on PPV in March or April.
1. Vargas needs to retire
2. He shouldn't be fighting a guy who can punch, like Mayorga.
3. There is no way that fight should be on PPV.

 

[eddiew112]

They both need to retire.

 

[BGrif21125]

I was just scrolling thru the guide on my TV and stumbled upon ESPN Classic's lienup for today. Must-see day of old fights for all boxing fans, starting at noon ET.
I've been hoping for years that ESPN would start showing something other than old Tyson and Ali fights, nice to see them start to show fights from an underappreciated all-time great like Pernell.

12 pm - Various Mike Tyson fights
1 pm - Lennox Lewis vs. Hasim Rahman II
1:30 - Pernell Whitaker vs. Jose L. Ramirez I (considered one of the worst decisions in history)
2:30 - Pernell Whitaker vs. Azumah Nelson
3:30 - Pernell Whitaker vs. Buddy McGirt II
4:30 - Evander Holyfield vs. Riddick Bowe III
5:30 - Evander Holyfield vs. Ray Mercer
6:30 - Lennox Lewis vs. Ray Mercer
7:30 - Lennox Lewis vs. Shannon Briggs
8:00 - Floyd Mayweather vs. Arturo Gatti
8:30 - Ali vs. Fraizer III
10:00 - George Foreman vs. Evander Holyfield

 

[BGrif21125]

Word is that Barrera-Marquez will be on PPV on March 17. I assume Pacquiao would get the winner.
My initial reaction is that I'd have to pick Marquez to beat Barrera. Less wear and tear.

 

[BGrif21125]

Bump for a good weekend of fights on Showtime.
Tonight is the final of the Super Middleweight Tournament.

Then tomorrow night, Worcester's Jose Antonio Rivera fights on the undercard, followed by the main event of Toney-Peter II.

How about Jim Lampley, huh?

 

[Lanternjaw]

Sucks to be him. Hopefully there's no truth to the allegations and he gets this squared away. Sounds like his son would be the key witness, so I imagine he'll beat the rap.

 

[Lanternjaw]

Oh... Toney/Peter II was a bit of a let down after the second round. I thought the first fight was Toney's pretty easily, but the rematch was extremely one-sided for Peter.

Peter has one helluva chin. I don't care if Toney isn't much of a puncher as a heavyweight -- he hit Peter with some shots that would've dropped most others... Peter didn't even blink while eating some of those. Guy has a granite head.

On the undercard, how could you not be impressed by Simms? He looked pretty damned polished, quick, and elusive for someone who hadn't been in the ring for 2 years. Rivera's no slouch for a return match either... I can't understand why Rivera didn't throw more lead right hands early.

 

[BigA27]

Peter does have a remarkable chin. Wlad Klitschko, who unlike Toney could probably punch through a brick wall, hit him with everything but the kitchen sink and only had him badly hurt once in the 12th.

Peter's face was all messed up at the end of the fight, but he was only stunned once.