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singaporesoxfan said:
I agree the S&P500 isn't a good metric but even that suggests the "Goodell is great at the moneymaking part of the job" is overblown, if only half of the franchises outperformed that metric.
The S&P metric is a measure of opportunity cost -- presumably, someone with hundreds of millions to invest in a pro sports franchise could instead invest that money in publicly traded securities.

Of course, published franchise valuations are unreliable, so while it's good that we're at least discussing the right issue (as opposed to discussing annual profits as the be all and end all, as sportswriters often do), we're doing it with crappy data. The owners' happiness with Goodell suggests that a more robust analysis would show that most of them have done well over the past several years.
 

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I've been as critical as anyone of the NFL's actions here, but the appointment of Robert Mueller is the one thing I don't have any problem with, and Ben Volin is way out of his depth here if that's his understanding of Mueller. There's a big reason why Mueller was the only FBI director to reach the full 10-year term limit and have it extended since J. Edgar Hoover - he's good and well-respected. If we're talking sports experience, it was Mueller's FBI that investigated NBA rigging and steroids in baseball.
CHB weighs in. Was Volin really out of his league?

“Mueller has a history of protecting his own,’’ said Albano, who vied with Mueller on a Massachusetts parole case in the 1980s when Albano was serving as a member of the Massachusetts Parole Board and Mueller was a United States attorney for Massachusetts.

“During part of his time at the FBI, there were 150 shootings involving federal agents and they were all investigated and the FBI was cleared in every one. Imagine that. One hundred and fifty and 0. He ought to go to Vegas if he can get odds like that.

“He’s absolutely the last person you would want in any kind of investigation. This is going to be a tank job, and Mueller is as good as anyone at that.”

(In 2013, the New York Times reported that from 1993-2011, FBI agents were involved in 150 shootings and internal bureau investigations deemed all 150 shootings justified. Mueller was director of the bureau from 2001-13.)
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/09/24/nfl-selection-robert-mueller-compromises-investigation/6umRckSD75On82k4mB25SN/story.html?hootPostID=f9cb4d59dbfa5a09321ee44e88153f03
 

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I wasn't aware of Mueller's 150-0 record......but I was very familiar with the confidence with which Goodell announced that Mueller would lead the investigation and get to the bottom of this and it stunk. Goodell (and the owners) know how this is going to play out......or else they wouldn't be hiring Mueller or anyone to "confirm" that all is well with their product.
 

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It's not just impartiality in fact, but the appearance of it, that matters. That holds true in judicial proceedings, and perhaps even more so here.

They are not off to a great start. Several influential owners -- Kraft, Jones, McCaskey -- and indeed the two individuals who are in charge of the investigation -- Mara and Rooney -- have arguably prejudged a significant aspect of this matter by making comments supportive of Goodell. Further, the Ravens are central to this, and having Mueller investigate a former partner of his firm, Cass, is going to be awkward at least.

Even if one assumes, as I do, that Mueller is a man of accomplishment and integrity who would be nuts to compromise himself for this crew, the public is not likely to see it that way -- unless the investigation crushes the Ravens and League both.

But, of course, the League does not much care about the public or high brow critics. It cares about the hearts, minds and wallets ( especially) of its fan base, and it cares about not letting this get so out of control that Congress would tempted to take away goodies. Fans and Congress have short attention spans.
 

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Brees speaks:

 
In an interview with ESPN.com, Brees made it clear that he believes that Goodell has too much power when it comes to handing out punishments. The Saints quarterback pointed out that all decisions involving any punishments are 'unilateral' and there's 'no checks and balances' in place.
 
"Too many times, I'd say especially over the last few years, a punishment's been handed down and nobody has really seen the evidence except for those in the league office - supposedly," Brees said. "So decisions were made in kind of a, 'Hey, trust us.' But did the public see any of the facts? Did the accused see any of the facts? In most cases, no."
 
 
As for bountygate, Brees sees similarities in what Payton did and what Goodell's doing now. In both cases, the parties are pleading ignorance. The plea obviously didn't work for Payton, who received a one-year suspension for his 'bountygate' role.
 
"I think it's a great tie-in because obviously the same things that I've heard, the same things that I feel [about Goodell] are the quotes that were thrown out at members of the Saints organization in regards to why they were being punished," Brees said. "Things such as, 'Ignorance is no excuse,' and, 'if you didn't know you should've known,' are things that would absolutely apply in this case, except the roles are reversed and it's going back at Commissioner Goodell and the league office."
 
 

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That was the first CHB article I've read in many years that didn't make me puke in my own mouth, so in that regards it was well done. But Shank himself admits that Albano, his prime source for trashing Mueller, has a personal and professional history of animosity towards Mueller, which makes Albano's assessment of Mueller's appointment just a tad suspect to me.
 
All that being said, I do agree with the main point that the NFL isn't going to hire Mueller unless they are damn sure they won't come out of it all that scarred.
 

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The main problem is what DC, and others, have pointed out though.  Even if Mueller is the most honest person in the world, it's the appearance of bias that the NFL should've avoided.  Anything less than totally dropping the hammer on the NFL and the Ravens will give people ammo to question the investigation.  There are many other people who could conduct this investigation and who don't have such strong ties to the parties involved.  It was a stupid decision and another example of Goodell's incompetent leadership.
 

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Either Mueller's investigation will exonerate Goodell, or it will condemn him and the owners will replace him. Neither outcome will cause lasting damage to the NFL.
 

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New York Daily News ‏@NYDailyNews  31s30 seconds ago
BREAKING: @DallasCowboys C.J. Spillman being investigated in sex assault on woman. http://nydn.us/1qYbwFQ 
 

 
 
 
 
 
A Dallas Cowboys special teams player has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman at the team’s hotel in Texas on Sept. 20 — and then being allowed to play the next day.
The alleged attack came just a day after NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s awkward news conference during which he promised to get tough on players accused of violent crime.
Police in Grapevine, Texas, told the Daily News that C.J. Spillman, 28, is "involved" in the investigation of a sexual assault that allegedly took place at the Gaylord Texan Resort and Convention Center, the Cowboys' official hotel since 2009,
“We have a sexual assault report we are investigating at this time, and it does involve C.J. Spillman,” said Sgt. Robert Eberling, a police spokesman. "He is involved in the investigation. We are looking into the matter."
 
 

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You ate ignoring that Goodell's work as Taglaibue's right hand man was a large factor in that regime and a major reasons why the owners wanted Goodell in that role.
 
I don't think that's really true---what's the basis for concluding Goodell contributed much?  I think the primary narrative was about continuing the path Tagliabue had picked before Goodell was anywhere near the C Suite, with Goodell cast as the company man who wouldn't shake the boat.
 

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 On the Spillman situation:
 
 
“I think our head coach as well as our organization has been very clear with our players on domestic violence and on several other issues that if you are involved and have this type of issue you are going to be accountable,” Jones said...
 
“It means that you will not play. Due process is not enough now. Now you see players going on exempt lists where they are not allowed to play in the game and get paid until you find out if they are guilty or not. But they are certainly not allowed to play in the game.”...
 
A source said the Cowboys are possibly dealing with things differently with Spillman because of questions about the legitimacy of the accusation. Still, Spillman is a person of interest in an active sexual assault investigation.
 
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6167669/cowboys-defensive-back-spillman.html
 
Way to stick to your guns, jackass. If only that were enough to force him to sell the team.
 

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According To The NFL, NFL Security Is Incompetent
 
The NFL has given ABC News a detailed account of the league's attempts to obtain information about the night that Ray Rice was arrested for assault, and it portrays NFL security as a stunningly incompetent organization. As told to ABC News by NFL spokesperson Brian McCarthy, the NFL attempted to obtain information four separate times. 
 
On February 19th, four days after Rice was arrested, NFL security staffer Jim Buckley called the Atlantic City Police Department and asked for the incident report. Buckley was told to file an open records request, and was cautioned that the information probably wouldn't be all that useful. (According to an open records request we filed, the NFL actually took that advice, and didn't bother to ask for anything.) On the same day, Buckley also called the Atlantic County Solicitor's Office—a shop which had nothing whatever to do with the investigation—but wasn't successful in reaching the solicitor that he was seeking.
The next day, the NFL and the New Jersey State Police had a previously scheduled meeting to review the security for Super Bowl XLVIII, which had recently been played in New Jersey. At this meeting, NFL security chief Jeffrey Miller asked about the Ray Rice case, but was told the state police were not involved in the investigation. According to the NFL, that was their last attempt to gain any information about the Ray Rice case for almost four months. 
On June 6th, Jim Buckley asked the Atlantic County Superior Court pre-trial intervention director Jill Houck—who oversaw the pre-trial intervention program Rice was accepted into—for "any and all information, including video, about the case." Houck only sent him the indictment, which had been publicly available for months. 
This is the true account according to the NFL, but ABC News was able to find plenty of contradictory evidence:
The league's account contradicts information provided to ABC News by the the Atlantic City Police Department. An assistant city attorney in Atlantic City, Benjamin Kaufman, told ABC News he could find no record of any communication between the NFL and either the police or City Hall.
ABC News has also learned that there is no record the NFL made any effort to contact the two specific agencies that had copies of the video: the Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office and the New Jersey Gaming Enforcement Division. Both agencies, in response to records requests, told ABC News they have nothing on file confirming contact with the NFL.
 
 
 

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I don't think I'm going out on a limp here to say that the NFL was so half hearted about getting their hands on the tape because they already had it/saw it/got a detailed account from someone who saw it.

IOW they are full of shit.
 

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glennhoffmania said:
If I'm Sean Payton I'd be losing my shit right about now.
Do you think Goodell spends as much time thinking about the league's security function as a head coach (even an offensive-minded one like Payton) spends thinking about his team's defense?
 

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Do you think Goodell spends as much time thinking about the league's security function as a head coach (even an offensive-minded one like Payton) spends thinking about his team's defense?
 
Nope. But the fact he doesn't, yet still thinks it's appropriate to act as judge, jury, and executioner on matters of player conduct -- based mostly on the evidence the league's security provides -- is quite troubling.
 

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For the 1,322nd time - Bountygate & Sean Payton were punished so harshly because to not have done it would have put 32 billionaires in a more precarious legal position in regards to concussion lawsuits. 
 
Goodell, the guy, had approximately 0.01% responsibility for the punishment handed down to the Saints organization and Payton. The "punishment" was decided by a panel of attorneys. They advised the NFL that to not punish a team harshly for "targeting the head" would play VERY badly in front of a jury deciding a case with a sympathetic plaintiff with brain damage or a degenerative condition due to repeated hits to the head. 
 
Goodell is a flak jacket; his purpose is to take shots for the NFL owners. Blaming Goodell is such a waste of everyone's time. He's not the person(s) you should be directing your ire toward.
 

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GeorgeCostanza said:
I don't think I'm going out on a limp here to say that the NFL was so half hearted about getting their hands on the tape because they already had it/saw it/got a detailed account from someone who saw it.

IOW they are full of shit.
 
You should get that looked at.
 

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Goodell is a flak jacket; his purpose is to take shots for the NFL owners. Blaming Goodell is such a waste of everyone's time. He's not the person(s) you should be directing your ire toward.
As I read this post again, I am realizing how few people see the commissioner's post this way. I'm not doubting you, sf121, but is the NFL commish's job any different than the other major sports commissioners'? Is there any reason to believe it is?

Not that it's the only source, but when you watch "League of Denial," you don't get the impression Goodell is just sitting at his desk by the phone waiting for Rooney or Mara to call him with orders – he's making decisions, proactively obfuscating and deploying lackeys where necessary.

My sense is that, fundamentally, you are right: the commissioner's job is to do the bidding of 32 owners – but that he is given a fair amount of latitude to do so, whether it is to build the strategy, design the organization, or even to hire the legal team. Yes, it is all done with the approval of the owners, but not their "permission," per se.

Perhaps I am wrong. But is there any evidence that Goodell doesn't do these things?
 

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As I read this post again, I am realizing how few people see the commissioner's post this way. I'm not doubting you, sf121, but is the NFL commish's job any different than the other major sports commissioners'? Is there any reason to believe it is?
 
I would say no - all of the commissioners are employees of the owners. None are "independent" - certainly not since Fay Vincent was terminated and replaced...by an owner. I think the notion of a "Commissioner" died a long time ago, if it ever existed at all after Judge Landis. The role is to facilitate league business and act as spokesperson for the collective owners. 
 
In the case of Boutygate, the league's attorneys certainly told the owners that "target the head" would be triple-damages worthy in front of a jury. So, Goodell was told to make a firm, "we take this very seriously" statement with the suspensions. He may have had latitude on the exact length but not on the intent or purpose. 
 
We're talking billions in potential losses. Few owners got rich letting an employee make decisions that could cost the business billions in lawsuit damages. 
 

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This whole thing makes the idea that Goodell watched hours and hours of Patriots videotapes back in week 2 of the 2007 season before finding them so dangerous that they had to be destroyed ASAP just even more fucking absurd.  
 
Guy couldn't be bothered to watch a 20 second video during the offseason.
 

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maufman said:
Do you think Goodell spends as much time thinking about the league's security function as a head coach (even an offensive-minded one like Payton) spends thinking about his team's defense?
 
Payton basically got suspended for a year because Roger said he was in charge and should've known what was going on in his organization.  The hypocrisy is pretty obvious.
 

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Payton basically got suspended for a year because Roger said he was in charge and should've known what was going on in his organization.  The hypocrisy is pretty obvious.
 
Also, it's highly likely that Payton got slammed for a whole year because IIRC coaches did not and still do not have the right to appeal their suspensions, unlike players. IMO Goodell came down hard on Payton because...well, because he could. Gotta throw the weight around somewhere.
 

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Payton basically got suspended for a year because Roger said he was in charge and should've known what was going on in his organization.  The hypocrisy is pretty obvious.
You missed my point -- there's a vast difference between what a league commissioner is supposed to know about security, and what a head coach is supposed to know about defense.
 

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It's worth pointing out once again that the whole Rice situation played out in NFL HQ's backyard, yet we are supposed to believe their investigation was thwarted at every turn.
 

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You missed my point -- there's a vast difference between what a league commissioner is supposed to know about security, and what a head coach is supposed to know about defense.
 
The issue for RG is that he's put himself front and center in matters of league discipline, personally handing down these sentences after (presumably) seeing the results of any investigation conducted, as well as personally conducting meetings with the individuals in question.  As such, I think he has (or should have had) more of an interest in ensuring that NFL security was well run.  Ultimately at the very least it reflects incredibly poorly on him.
 

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You missed my point -- there's a vast difference between what a league commissioner is supposed to know about security, and what a head coach is supposed to know about defense.
 
No I got your point.  I'm saying it's irrelevant.  Roger seemed to make it clear that there was no gray area.  If you're in charge, you're responsible for what happens in your organization.  He can't now claim that his organization is too big to know about stuff without sounding like a total hypocrite. If that's how he views the world, fine.  Then it applies to him as well.
 
Not to mention, even if he isn't intimately involved in the day to day operations of NFL security, he damn well should've been involved in every detail of this particular situation.  To say he shouldn't be expected to know too much about security in general is a total cop out when we're talking about a specific, high-profile, extreme incident.
 

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This whole thing makes the idea that Goodell watched hours and hours of Patriots videotapes back in week 2 of the 2007 season before finding them so dangerous that they had to be destroyed ASAP just even more fucking absurd.  
 
Guy couldn't be bothered to watch a 20 second video during the offseason.
 
Actually, if anything, this underscores how the decisions Goodell makes is a function of how he is situated and the goals of his role, i.e. profits.
 
The allegations about SpyGate, no matter how insipid at times, were about compromising the competitiveness of the sport which could hurt the "product." Having players who are jerks, apparently anyway, does not. This is the criteria by which they are ranked in importance from the POV of the commissioner.
 
 
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No I got your point.  I'm saying it's irrelevant.  Roger seemed to make it clear that there was no gray area.  If you're in charge, you're responsible for what happens in your organization.  He can't now claim that his organization is too big to know about stuff without sounding like a total hypocrite. If that's how he views the world, fine.  Then it applies to him as well.
 
Not to mention, even if he isn't intimately involved in the day to day operations of NFL security, he damn well should've been involved in every detail of this particular situation.  To say he shouldn't be expected to know too much about security in general is a total cop out when we're talking about a specific, high-profile, extreme incident.
 
I'm not sure this is correct but I get the basic thrust of where you are going. I would say differently that, taking maufman's point, he should have, like, frickin' asked for help. The problem of responsibility here is that he didn't even know that he didn't understand these matters.
 
I still can't get over the fact that they never consulted a woman about the Rice incident.
 

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There is no Rev said:
 

I'm not sure this is correct but I get the basic thrust of where you are going. I would say differently that, taking maufman's point, he should have, like, frickin' asked for help. The problem of responsibility here is that he didn't even know that he didn't understand these matters.
 
I still can't get over the fact that they never consulted a woman about the Rice incident.
 
I may still not be articulating it clearly (or maybe I am and I'm missing your point).  I'm not saying that Roger should know every detail of what his entire security staff does or knows.  That would be impossible.  And I understand that it would be easier for Payton to become aware of a bounty program going on with his defense.  But if I recall correctly, Roger's reasoning for the suspension wasn't that Payton neglected his duties as head coach or looked the other way or anything like that.  His reasoning was that Payton's the boss so he has to be held accountable, period.
 
Furthermore, in this particular case I don't think Roger even needed to ask for help.  This wasn't a mundane daily NFL security briefing or something.  There was a specific crime that was being investigated and Roger was personally involved, at least with respect to handing down the punishment.  Yet we shouldn't hold him to the same standard, at least pertaining to this particular incident, that he held Payton?  I find that to be completely nonsensical.
 
I'm not a Saints fan and I'm not passing judgment on the Payton punishment one way or the other.  I'm simply saying that it seems pretty clear that Roger doesn't think the same principles should be applied to him.
 

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I'm on the Rev is agreeing with you side, but it's more evident in his response to the first quote.
 
The not consulting a woman is less relevant to me had he just watched the stupid tape. Had he done that he probably could've consulted the woman he had served him afternoon tea while he was thinking about how awesome he is.
 

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Actually, if anything, this underscores how the decisions Goodell makes is a function of how he is situated and the goals of his role, i.e. profits.
 
The allegations about SpyGate, no matter how insipid at times, were about compromising the competitiveness of the sport which could hurt the "product." Having players who are jerks, apparently anyway, does not. This is the criteria by which they are ranked in importance from the POV of the commissioner.
I think this is absolutely correct. Imagine it was discovered a coach or ref deliberately did something to affect the point spread. The league's response would be so quick, competent and severe as compared to its lip service on domestic violence and concussions that it would make our heads spin. Brain damaged suicidal ex-employees do not move the dollars and cents needle much yet. But a coach trying to win a meaningless game in week 17 by 14 instead of 10 because he's paid to do so would. Morality or level of culpability has very little to do with it. In the emergency room triage that is NFL security and discipline, the bottom line is what gets you to the front of the line.
 

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There is no Rev said:
 
Actually, if anything, this underscores how the decisions Goodell makes is a function of how he is situated and the goals of his role, i.e. profits.
 
The allegations about SpyGate, no matter how insipid at times, were about compromising the competitiveness of the sport which could hurt the "product." Having players who are jerks, apparently anyway, does not. This is the criteria by which they are ranked in importance from the POV of the commissioner.
 
Of course, by acting the way he did, and implementing the severe punishments he did, all Goodell managed to do was turn a molehill into a mountain. Put another way, I don't think his handling of the situation really painted the NFL and its franchises in the best light.
 

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RT @thebiglead: Colin Kaepernick Fined $10k for Wearing Beats by Dre Headphones After KC Win http://wp.me/p3LRnW-1IRm
 

 
Colin Kaepernick, who popularized Beats by Dre headphones with his “I’m the Man” commercials last season, was fined $10k by the NFL today for wearing said headphones after the 49ers victory over the Chiefs Sunday.
The NFL recently cut a deal with Bose headphones, and said it would fine any player who wears Beats in front of cameras before or after games.
Did Kaepernick not know the rules? The deal came together late last week, and only went public Sunday morning.
Or maybe Beats told its athletes: Hey, you don’t worry about that. We got you. 
 
 
 
 
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No I got your point.  I'm saying it's irrelevant.  Roger seemed to make it clear that there was no gray area.  If you're in charge, you're responsible for what happens in your organization.  He can't now claim that his organization is too big to know about stuff without sounding like a total hypocrite. If that's how he views the world, fine.  Then it applies to him as well.
 
Not to mention, even if he isn't intimately involved in the day to day operations of NFL security, he damn well should've been involved in every detail of this particular situation.  To say he shouldn't be expected to know too much about security in general is a total cop out when we're talking about a specific, high-profile, extreme incident.
Nonsense.

Payton not knowing about a pervasive system of bounties being paid to his defensive players is analogous to Goodell not noticing that a lawyer left a zero off the dollar figures in the TV contracts -- sure, it's someone else's responsibility, but you can't fuck up something that big without owning responsibility for it. (Also, I think Payton's punishment reflected Goodell's belief that Payton knew, even if he couldn't prove it.)

I realize you would like Goodell to spend as much time on domestic violence issues as he does on raking in billions of dollars for the owners, but I'll guarantee you there isn't a single owner who feels the same. The mishandling of the Rice investigation doesn't reflect well on Goodell, but it's not a firing offense for someone who has done the important parts (in his bosses' eyes) of the job well.

If Mueller's investigation shows that Goodell lied to the owners, that's a whole other issue. I do think he'll lose his job if he lied.
 

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Thought maybe this was the best thread to mention that Edelman got fined 5K for throwing the ball into the stands in his celebration, while Suggs got an 8k fine for attempting to break Blount in half. I can understand the 5K fine for throwing the ball into the stands, but Suggs' number just seems ridiculous to me. That was about as blatant a cheapshot as you'll see in this league.
 

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Roger is apparently making things up as he goes along again.
 
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/adrian-peterson-refutes-nfl-claim-he-skipped-discipline-hearing-172642978.html
 
AP refutes claim he skipped hearing
 
The report that I backed out of a meeting with the NFL is just not true. When Roger Goodell's office asked that I attend the 'hearing' on Friday, I consulted with my union and learned that this 'hearing' was something new and inconsistent with the CBA.
 
 

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has announced a new personal conduct policy that he says “significantly strengthens our conduct rules,” 
Goodell said the NFL will hold everyone — not just players but owners, coaches, team staff and everyone affiliated with the league — to high standards in their personal conduct. Goodell also said the league will hire a new employee who will oversee discipline in the NFL.
“These high standards will be upheld through a rigorous process, one that is clear, formal, consistent and transparent, that includes due process for league investigations, the addition of an advisory group of experts, and a new disciplinary officer,” Goodell said. “This will be a highly qualified individual with a criminal justice background, hired for the newly created position of assistant counsel for investigations and conduct — the person who will oversee our investigations and decide the discipline for violations of the policy.”
Goodell also announced a new committee that will include not only owners but also retired players...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/10/goodell-says-nfl-will-hire-new-head-of-discipline/?cid=yahoo
 
I cut a few small bits out of the above.
 
It's very late but it's also a step in the right direction in my opinion.
 

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Kraft was there supporting his Guy, Rog. Here is the verbate if you are curious:
 
 
ROGER GOODELL, NFL COMMISSIONER
MICHAEL BIDWILL, OWNER ARIZONA CARDINALS, CHAIRMAN
CHARLOTTE JONES ANDERSON, DALLAS COWBOYS EXECUTIVE VICE PRES.
BOB MCNAIR, THE HOUSTON TEXANS OWNER
ROBERT KRAFT, OWNER NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
 
GOODELL
 
135758 Okay this morning the NFL owners unanimously adopted a new personal conduct policy that applies to everyone in the NFL: owners, coaches, league staff, team employees, and players.
 
5813 First and foremost significantly strengthens our conduct rules and programs. Everyone in the NFL is accountable to tougher rules and better procedures. Second, these high standards will be upheld through a rigorous process.
 
5832 One that is clear, formal, consistent and transparent. That includes a new process for league investigations. The addition of an advisory group of experts and a new disciplinary officer, this will be a highly qualified individual with a criminal justice background hired as soon as possible for the newly created position as special counsel for investigations and conduct.
 
5903 The person will oversee our investigations and decide the discipline for violations of the policy. This is a product of consultation with more than 150 experts on domestic violence, sexual assault, and violent crime. We spoke extensively with the NFL PA, former players, wives of former players and leaders in business, academia, and law enforcement.
 
5932 The policy is comprehensive, it is strong, it is tough, and it is better for everyone associated with the NFL. I have stated it many times, being part of the NFL is a privilege it is not a right, the measures adopted today uphold that principle.
 
140000 I also said I would appoint a committee of owners to oversee this initiative. The committee will be comprised of 9 owners. Michael Bidwill will serve as the chairman, Arthur Blank, Clark Hunt, Jimmy Haslam, Charlotte Jones Anderson, George MaCaskey, and Bob McNair, and two former players that are part of NFL ownership. Warrick Dunn of the Falcons and John Stallworth of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
 
0033 They will review and update our policies and programs on a regular basis. As Greg said I’ll be back after we conclude the meeting to answer some of your questions, in the meantime many of our staff Anne Idikson, Jeff Pash, Lisa Freill, Cynthia Hogan and Troy Vincent (???) will be able to talk in more detail about the policy of it. Before breaking here I would like four owners to make a brief comment on behalf of ownership.
 
0102 Mike Bidwill, Charlotte Jones Anderson, Bob McNair, and Robert Kraft. I believe we’re going to start with Michael Bidwill.
 
MICHAEL BIDWILL, OWNER ARIZONA CARDINALS, CHAIRMAN
 
0110 Thank you commissioner, we fully support this new policy. I think the commissioner asked me to chair this committee because of my background from 1990 to ‘96 serving as a federal prosecutor in Phoenix working in violent crimes.
 
0127 That background gives me a unique perspective on some of the issues we’re facing and over the last couple of months I’ve been able to input quite a bit on this new policy. The policy on this committee is all about making sure we keep this up to date and that we change this and look at changes and keep it fresh, keep looking at best practices and raising the effectiveness of this policy.
 
0157 The policy’s just not about discipline, it’s about education and training. Thank you.
 
CHARLOTTE JONES ANDERSON, DALLAS COWBOYS EXECUTIVE VICE PRES.
 
0205 As Michael said the ownership is in full support of the conduct policy and it’s very important that we work together both from an NFL foundation standpoint and the conduct committee to really bring about cultural change and at all levels really of our game of football and as a mother of two kids who play football, it is important that character development and character education starts at a young age.
 
0231 We plan to do just that, that will actually take time, obviously what we do we want to evaluate we want to measure over a long-term perspective and we’re excited about getting underway with those plan. It’s also very important from a committee perspective that we represent a diverse background of points of views and perspectives and I think the committee certainly is made up of just that.
 
0257 Along with our experts in the field that will guide us and give us outside information we look forward to not only supporting the policy that we have in place but constantly evaluating and making sure that we are doing the very best that we can to our ability to have an effective policy, thank you.
 
BOB MCNAIR, THE HOUSTON TEXANS OWNER
 
0318 Throughout my business career I’ve had a number of different companies, we’ve always had values and mission statements and conduct standards that were extremely important to us as to how we run our business.
 
0335 We’re doing the same thing here at the NFL, we’ve spent a lot of time on this, I think that the most important part of it is that this is not a policy that is directed at the players, this is a policy that covers all of us and it starts with our own teams, it starts in the headquarters
 
0356 and the players and the trainers, coaches, everyone else will be a part of it, but it’s a very comprehensive policy and I think one that we can all be proud of and work hard to see that we enforce is properly.
 
ROBERT KRAFT, OWNER NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
 
0415 I’ve had the privilege of being an owner in the league for 21 years here and watched this product grow as the number one entertainment product in America. And I think one of the reasons we’ve been able to do that is that we’ve had a leadership and specifically in the office of commissioner where someone wakes up every day and thinks about what’s in the strategic best interest of the game.
 
0447 And whether that be, and the most important part of the whole process is making sure players are treated properly. And I know some of you might question how we came to the conclusion that the commissioner, the commissioner’s office should be the final arbiter of everything and we gave that a lot of thought and the reason is that’s the one person that understands what’s important
 
0515 long-term interests of the game. Owners can have specific interests, players can, that’s short term; but the commissioner is always looking for the long term best interests of the game and I think it’s what separates us. We thought about having independent arbitrator and that’s a one off situation where people trying to do a good job can compromise or water down what our best interests are.
 
0544 And so we feel very strongly about that and we’re very excited about this policy.
 

Harry Hooper

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I believe Goodell was on record before that management should be held to a higher standard than the players. So, he's actually lowering the espoused (not exactly lived up to) standard for management.
 

Kliq

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A big chunk of this new policy was an increase in turning matters into an "independent investigation" but wasn't a significant issue with this whole mess being that the "independent investigators" in the Rice case were cronies of Goodells legion of doom?