Protecting the Shields -- The Nick Cafardo Thread

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Iglesias hit only .200 in spring training, but he never looked overmatched at the plate.

He struck out three times in 25 at-bats. He bunted, moved runners along, hit balls into the gap, went the other way. His average wasn’t good, but did anyone expect it to be, and more important, did anyone care?
 

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Note that Nicky used to see (and say) the same things about his boy Scutaro as he now sees in Aviles. Only now they are deficiencies. Had Scut still been here, we'd be hearing how moving Iggy down to Pawtucket was good for him and good for the club. And mark my words: when they bring Iggy up in June or July, as is the plan and has been all along, he will see no plan in it, but will sanctimoniously claim that they are fixing a mistake -- a mistake he warned them against -- of spring training.

If anyone is begging to be lampooned, Nicky boy is. Someone with a wit could fire up a site modeled on Fire Joe Morgan and have a good time. It's about time for a successor anyway. I miss that place.
 

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This was my favorite quote in the train wreck article, as well as the laundry list that followed of all the noble outs that Iglesias made. Can someone smarter than I am kindly explain how you can hit .200 without looking over-matched at the plate?
 

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"Baseball America: Phillies add further middle-infield depth, acquire SS Chin-Lung Hu from Indians. He batted .277/.328/.437 in 119 AB in Australia BB Lge."

There goes the Aviles-Blanton trade.

I mean, could the past couple of days have gone any worse for Nicholas?

What next... Larvanaway to Portland? Damon announces his retirement? Oswalt signs with StL for $1M?
 

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Felger just began a segment asking the question "Who on the Red Sox beat has been killing it with great coverage this spring training?" His answer, Nick Cafardo, the guest he and Mazz just brought on to advocate for Iglesias being made the starting shortstop. Felger was worried Cafardo would be suffering an emotional letdown with Iglesias being sent down.
 

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Felger just began a segment asking the question "Who on the Red Sox beat has been killing it with great coverage this spring training?" His answer, Nick Cafardo, the guest he and Mazz just brought on to advocate for Iglesias being made the starting shortstop. Felger was worried Cafardo would be suffering an emotional letdown with Iglesias being sent down.
That absolute disgusts me.

The only thing that Cafardo has been killing this spring is the Ponderosa buffet.
 

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Cafardo is on with Felger and Mazz right now about Iglesias. "It's not like he's overmatched. He's only struck out 3 times and he's making contact".

"Immeasurable stuff makes champions. This team doesn't have the talent or the immeasurables".

WAAA--WAAAAA
 

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Cafardo says that Iglesias has the kind of intangibles that bring championships but don't show up in the numbers. He said that he thought that maybe Bill James' influence and their love of stats like win shares might be causing the front office to undervalue shortstop defense, which Cafardo is just baffled by. Cafardo was disappointed that Valentine had backed off on the plan to start Iglesias but it sounded like Cafardo would still love to carry Bobby V's water. Cafardo did not give much credence to the idea that a terrible hitting shortstop would hold the Sox back. Of course he didn't.
 

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Not overmatched?

.200/.286/.280

.227 BABIP

.040 ISOP

And what the hell... all the new metrics have been and will be about defense for the foreseeable future.
 

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Cafardo is on with Felger and Mazz right now about Iglesias. "It's not like he's overmatched. He's only struck out 3 times and he's making contact".

"Immeasurable stuff makes champions. This team doesn't have the talent or the immeasurables".

WAAA--WAAAAA
The league leader in fewest strikeouts last year (among qualified players) was Juan Pierre, he of the 657 OPS.

Obviously Nick doesn't know that lack of strikeouts does not equate with not overmatched.
 

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He said that he thought that maybe Bill James' influence and their love of stats like win shares might be causing the front office to undervalue shortstop defense, which Cafardo is just baffled by.
Right. Two years ago, they were killed for overvaluing defense, now they're misguided in their misappreciation of it. Why is it so hard for mediot types like Cafardo and F&M to grasp that it's not about defense or offense but rather total value.

edit: I just listened to this part of the interview. It so incredibly obvious when you hear Cafardo talk about this subject that he has zero contacts within the front office. Either that or he just ignores what they tell him. I mean I'm not saying you have to agree with them, but to be so ignorant of their philosophy to the point that you're basically describing the opposite of what they believe...and juxtaposed with Felger's introduction of him is just the cherry on top.
 

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Honest question- how does one measure an 'immeasurable?'

Maybe...
Handshakes x Nicknames / Salary = X Factor!
Handshakes x Nicknames x Position of hat on head x amount of pine tar on batting helmet/ Salary x Quotable factor = X factor.

It really makes sense when quantified like this.
 

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Honest question- how does one measure an 'immeasurable?'
No. First, go to an ashram and meditate on this question. When you understand the dishonesty of the question, you will have achieved some immeasurable fraction of enlightenment.

<GONG>
 

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I can envision the tracks of Nick's tears on his keyboard as he wrote that article.

And yes, the Mark Belanger reference was awesome. He is so dumb he couldn't realize the better comp, from his perspective/argument, would be Ozzie Smith.
 

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It's gotten to the point where I honestly can't tell when Felger is trolling his audience and when he actually believes what he's saying. I don't understand how a rational human being could describe what Cafardo is doing as "killing it." He's getting called out on a regular basis by his peers. That's embarrassing enough, but this Iglesias article is truly nonsensical. Is he really holding up Cody Ross as some kind of offensive juggernaut as a right fielder?
 

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The league leader in fewest strikeouts last year (among qualified players) was Juan Pierre, he of the 657 OPS.

Obviously Nick doesn't know that lack of strikeouts does not equate with not overmatched.
If I thought Iglesias could put up a .657 OPS, I'd be in favor of starting him. At this point Iglesias wouldn't be just a bad hitter, he'd be Kevin Cash (714 career plate appearances, .526 OPS) bad.
 

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So we had this in today's game against the Rays:

Ciriaco, SS-2B-3B-SS-2B-3B-SS

Spears, 2B-3B-SS-2B-3B-SS-1B

Hee, 3B-SS-2B-3B
-----Meneses, SS-2B

And not one word about the musical chair switches in Nick's game blog.
I guess those looks in the infield were not different enough.
 

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This week, Nicky gives us his annual managerial rankings. (Who knew these things were a waited-for event?) Anyhoo, here's his thoughts on a familiar name.

John Farrell, Blue Jays - Bright guy who keeps growing on the job. Like any former pitching coach, he is catching up to managing the rest of the team, and all reports are that he is doing well in that area. He has been able to delegate responsibility (to his coaches), as any strong leader does.
Now, guess where Nicky ranked him among the 30 MLB managers ...

... wrong! Farrell apparent is no better than 26th among managers, ahead of only Brad Mills of the woeful Astros and the three first-time managers who Nick says he traditionally (!) puts at the bottom.

Valentine, meanwhile comes in at 15th ,,, right behind Ron Gardenhire

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/04/01/ranking-major-league-managers/eGjd2b8I4wSEAwPFENccPM/story.html
 

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5. Wouldn&rsquo;t the Indians be better off signing Johnny Damon than trading for Bobby Abreu?
Hard to fault Cafardo for that one. Damon put up a 110 OPS+ to Abreu's 104 last year. Neither can play defense or run all that well any more. They're the exact same age, they are both left handed hitters. I don't know why you'd trade for either guy if you could simply sign the other one.
 

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Does he seriously not understand that not every team has the cash flow of the Red Sox? The Indians can't just sign a free agent at the drop of the hat. Especially not a Boras client that hasn't signed yet due to contract demands. Add to all that that Abreu's been at spring training for a month; he would be available on opening day while Damon would have to get into shape.
 

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Johnny Damon would be a nice 25th player for the Red Sox.
https://twitter.com/#!/nickcafardo/status/186531018025611266

Nick Cafardo: Johnny Damon's Headhunter
 

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I would love to know just how Cafardo chooses his manager rankings. I think that it's based on who talks to him the most because while I don't think that Joe Girardi is a bad manager, he doesn't strike me as a top five guy. But it shouldn't be surprising as Nick is the only one of his compatriots who chose the Yankees to win the World Series this year.

Though Michael Vega may want to check on the Red's free agent acquisition, Mat Latos.
 

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#nickcafardo: I think they have versatile backups like nick punto and darnell mcdonald. They need a leader and a winner.
Nick, still pushing for Damon
 

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I would love to know just how Cafardo chooses his manager rankings. I think that it's based on who talks to him the most because while I don't think that Joe Girardi is a bad manager, he doesn't strike me as a top five guy. But it shouldn't be surprising as Nick is the only one of his compatriots who chose the Yankees to win the World Series this year.

Though Michael Vega may want to check on the Red's free agent acquisition, Mat Latos.
Bruce Jenkins and Marty Lurie were discussing Cafardo's rankings on the all-sports station out here over the weekend. They were baffled as to how Bochy had dropped as much as he did (I think he went from first in 2011 to ninth in 2012 or something like that). They never figured out that Cafardo does these off the top of his head as a space-filler.
 

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Several sources says Bailey's out at least 4 months. Then Cafardo tweets:


#nickcafardo Daniel Bard has progressed as a starter, but should this experiment be scrapped with Andrew Bailey out until the All-Star break?

That's some fine detective work there, Lou.
 

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This correspondent believes Bobby Valentine should send Daniel Bard back to the bullpen.
Bard was supposed to be Jonathan Papelbon's heir apparent anyway. Yes, he's stretched out as a starter and you can make the case that it's not fair to him to have to go back.
But he's going back to what would be a glamorous role - not the set-up man, but the pitcher who earns saves and therefore can accrue future dollars in the process.
It would be an easy move to make.
Veteran Aaron Cook doesn't really need more time in the minors. He's ready to go right now and he would be easy to make the fifth starter. If Bard returned to the pen, Alfredo Aceves could be given his wish to be a starter.
"This correspondent"???? .... Nick has regressed to WWII radio now?

http://www.boston.co...d_daniel_b.html
 

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Several sources says Bailey's out at least 4 months. Then Cafardo tweets:


#nickcafardo Daniel Bard has progressed as a starter, but should this experiment be scrapped with Andrew Bailey out until the All-Star break?

That's some fine detective work there, Lou.
Bake 'em away, toys.
 

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FFS, Nick...

6. Johnny Damon, OF/DH, free agent - Any time we mention that Damon remains a free agent, baseball people shake their heads. &ldquo;That one,&rsquo;&rsquo; said one American League GM, &ldquo;is a mystery."
It's a mystery? Really?

HE IS 38 YEARS OLD and HIS AGENT IS SCOTT BORAS. THERE IS NO MYSTERY HERE. "Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Baltimore, Detroit" are not looking to add the salary that Boras is obviously demanding. Case closed.

Is Nick his pimp or something?
 

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Hey, here's an idea. "You're an AL GM, saying it's a mystery why JD hasn't signed. Why haven't YOU signed him?". But followup questions are beyond him.
 

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Astros: Jed Lowrie (played for the Sox, you know he's in Houston if you paid attention this offseason) Kyle Weiland (ditto) and Wandy Rodriguez, who the Sox were rumored to be interested in last year.

Padres: Edison Volquez and Carlos Quentin were fairly well known trades, weren't they? Cameron Maybin is pretty well known if you follow young players at all. Headley and Hundley have been there for a while, so if you've paid any attention to them at all over the last couple years, it's pretty easy.

It's very easy to answer those if you follow the Red Sox and/or any baseball at all, and give it a second of thought, which explains why Cafardo thought they were puzzling questions.
 

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Astros: Jed Lowrie (played for the Sox, you know he's in Houston if you paid attention this offseason) Kyle Weiland (ditto) and Wandy Rodriguez, who the Sox were rumored to be interested in last year.

Pirates: Erik Bedard (pitched for the Sox last year) Andrew McCutcheon (upcoming star) and AJ Burnett (well publicized Yankee trade this offseason)

It's very easy to answer those if you follow the Red Sox and/or any baseball at all, and give it a second of thought, which explains why Cafardo thought they were puzzling questions.
But can you name three padres players?
 

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Yeah, as can anyone who likes baseball a little bit. Cafardo assumes the people who read the Boston Globe Sunday baseball notes aren't interested in baseball, because he's not.
 

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Yeah, I misread Pirates for Padres, as was pointed out by the previous post. It's there for everyone to see, but okay I apologize to you and hereby "own" it.

The point is still the same-- people who follow baseball can name three players on any team without too much trouble. People who don't care about baseball can't. Which group is Cafardo in again?
 

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At least one bit of good news for Red Sox is that No 1 pick righty Matt Barnes struck out 13 for Greenville vs Lakewood in his pro debut.
I mean this isn't a big deal, especially on Twitter, but when stats are this easy to look up and double check it comes across as horribly lazy.

Another gem from this morning:
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"Nobody in here is thinking about last year," said Braves C Brian McCann. Maybe McCann's Braves and Red Sox, 0-3, should remember September.
 
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