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Price is right

Discussion in 'Red Sox Forum' started by In my lifetime, May 8, 2018.

  1. In my lifetime

    In my lifetime Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Well the return of numbness (paresthesia) reported today is not a good sign.
    It certainly is not Raynaud's, and is likely to be a nerve impingement/entrapment. There is no reports other than all his fingertips being numb. However, it could be only 2 fingers are numb, unless you are thinking specifically about it, sometime people just generalize their statements to all.

    Here is the sensory innervation (courtesy of wikipedia)

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    Some of the more likely causes:
    Ulnar nerve entrapment - note the ulnar nerve is the one that you feel when you hit your "funny bone". With his prior elbow issues, this could come and go with swelling in the elbow.

    Thoracic outlet syndrome

    Cervical radiculopathy (pinched nerve)

    Carpal tunnel syndrome

    Obviously this is very concerning. With tests including MRI getting done today, we should have an answer soon.
     
  2. Sampo Gida

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    Hopefully its not TOS. Not many comeback from that very well.

    Never really bought into the cold as explaining his numbness against the Yankees. In a sense its nice to know there is a physical issue explaing the performance issues, so long as that issue can be corrected and he can return as a guy who can earn his salary, even if it isnt this year
     
  3. DaveRoberts'Shoes

    DaveRoberts'Shoes Aaron Burr Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    My guess is on thoracic outlet. Second guess is ulnar neuritis as a function of UCL insufficiency.

    Neither one is “good”
     
  4. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    So ... you're saying his physical problem is 50-percent mental?
     
  5. EricFeczko

    EricFeczko Member SoSH Member

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    Not having nerves of steel may be part of the problem.

    Well...metaphorical steel.
     
  6. DeadlySplitter

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  7. AimingForYoko

    AimingForYoko Member SoSH Member

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    So...is this all part of the magic elbow?
     
  8. ehaz

    ehaz Member SoSH Member

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    Hey I wouldn’t want to pitch in the freezing cold or to the MFY either but then again, I don’t get paid $30M a year.
     
  9. Harry Hooper

    Harry Hooper Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    WEEI played a clip with Cora, and I am pretty sure he said Price would be pitching this weekend unless the checkup throws up a red flag of some kind.
     
  10. Toe Nash

    Toe Nash Member SoSH Member

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    I don't see this ending well. I mean, he threw 730+ innings in the three years before the Red Sox acquired him, it shouldn't be that surprising his arm has a lot of wear and tear.

    Edit: sorry, that includes his first Sox year
     
  11. Red(s)HawksFan

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    Apparently, the diagnosis is "mild case" of carpal tunnel syndrome. No word yet on if a DL stint is needed.

     
  12. soxhop411

    soxhop411 Member SoSH Member

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    Alex Cora says David Price has “mild case” of carpal tunnel syndrome.
     
  13. flymrfreakjar

    flymrfreakjar Member SoSH Member

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    All that Fortnite he’s playing.
     
  14. dynomite

    dynomite Member SoSH Member

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    I’ve never heard of this before, but it seems pretty straightforward.

    A quick google search revealed something I never knew or forgot: old friend Bronson “Saturn” Arroyo has this issue back in 2010 when he was the Reds ace and opted against surgery, and continued pitching normally (he threw 199+ Innings every season from 2005 through 2013, and his ‘12 and ‘13 were two of his best seasons).

    http://www.rsi-relief.com/2010/04/c...-opts-against-carpal-tunnel-syndrome-surgery/
     
  15. uncannymanny

    uncannymanny Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Seriously has to be this.
     
  16. shaggydog2000

    shaggydog2000 Member SoSH Member

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    Maybe this is the real reason he quit twitter.
     
  17. DaveRoberts'Shoes

    DaveRoberts'Shoes Aaron Burr Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Should be very manageable with an injection or two,maybe a night splint
     
  18. In my lifetime

    In my lifetime Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Out of the 4 options which I listed as most likely as well as DRS' suggested possibility, this is certainly the best case scenario.
     
  19. UncleStinkfinger

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    Weird. How do you treat that? Any of you guys had this?
     
  20. Van Everyman

    Van Everyman Member SoSH Member

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    It’s either the night splint DRS mentioned or an ergonomic pitching mound
     
  21. joe dokes

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    I guess the bright side is that he only actually has to use the affected limb for a few hours every few days. So now that they know what it is, maybe it can heal. Unlike, say, someone who has 8 hours of some repetitive motion every day.
     
  22. JimBoSox9

    JimBoSox9 will you be my friend? SoSH Member

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    I just hope the Sox aren't looking at an OSHA fine. I think it counts against the cap
     
  23. Red(s)HawksFan

    Red(s)HawksFan Member SoSH Member

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    For what it's worth, a medical opinion...

     
  24. mikeford

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    Is that opinion based on the assumption he's using a controller though?

    I'd think mouse and keyboard could very easily contribute, no?
     
  25. Reverend

    Reverend for king and country Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    To say nothing of the assumption that he's using proper mechanics on whatever interface he's using.
     
  26. Red(s)HawksFan

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    It is. According to this article the Red Sox would appear to be console players.

     
  27. Reverend

    Reverend for king and country Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    How do they play at hotels?
     
  28. Red(s)HawksFan

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    They bring their consoles with them. PS4s are smaller than most laptops these days. That, a controller and an HDMI cable is all they need.
     
  29. uncannymanny

    uncannymanny Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    https://es.pn/2K8U6bn

    “more common among esports players”

    I am not a doctor of any kind, but it sounds like this definitely happens to heavy gamers.
     
  30. uncannymanny

    uncannymanny Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    They don’t even need that.

    https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16879003001
     
  31. Reverend

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    What studies exist on moderately heavy gamers who also pitch baseball at the professional level?
     
  32. uncannymanny

    uncannymanny Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    You mean omnisports players?
     
  33. Laser Show

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    If he ends up needing a surgical release how long of a recovery would that be for a pitcher?
     
  34. DaveRoberts'Shoes

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    Two months or so. I’m sure they’ll do an injection or two first.

    And for the record, video games don’t cause carpal tunnel. The only things with proven associations are operating a jackhammer and being paraplegic, and I’m pretty sure Price doesn’t qualify on either count
     
  35. Reverend

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    I've heard him called worse.
     
  36. Bleedred

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    When is he declared a bust of a signing? Or is the jury already in on that?
     
  37. Red(s)HawksFan

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    Barring a career-ending injury (or a Sandoval-esque release), no way can the deal be declared anything (boom or bust) until it's over.
     
  38. MikeM

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    For me, it can never be a complete bust until people actually start making serious thread suggestions for a player's outright release.
     
  39. genoasalami

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    He's a never ending tease. Ya, he'll probably bounce back from this. Make a few decent starts, then he'll pull a hammy covering first. Always sumthin.
     
  40. DanoooME

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    The surgery will probably happen during this offseason, right? There's no reason to put it off at that point. Or can/should they treat it without surgery period?

    And shouldn't affect his participation in spring training?
     
  41. AimingForYoko

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    DRS, does carpal tunnel give you the numbness and tingling he said he's been dealing with for years now? And what about the weather thing? Will the injection help that?
     
  42. jaytftwofive

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    What was it Yogi said??? LOL. 90% of baseball is 50% mental. Something like that not sure?
     
  43. JimD

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    The next Yankees series begins June 29th.
     
  44. lexrageorge

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    He had one very good year in 2016, a season that was far better than the local mediots give him credit for (bWAR of 3.0 while throwing a league leading 230 innings).

    He was hurt most of 2017, and 2018 is still a work in progress (7 starts is the definition of minuscule sample size).
     
  45. Harry Hooper

    Harry Hooper Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Close, "Baseball is 90 per cent mental. The other half is physical."
     
  46. In my lifetime

    In my lifetime Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Yes, Carpal tunnel syndrome will give you numbness. The steroid injection and a brace can often adequately treat the symptoms. The weather component is probably a red herring - very cold weather doesn't help anyone grip a ball.
     
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  50. AimingForYoko

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    I...think he shouldn't talk anymore. I saw a tweet that said something about him being allergic to dogs but I thought they were just making fun of him since you know, he has two of them.

    I'm baffled.
     

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