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Fishy1

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The Celts just don't match up with the Cavs in any way. OKC had Westbrook and KD. Two generational talents. It's not a good comp.
I think this, unfortunately, is the right take. Thompson will eat up the boards, Crowder -- as good as he is -- is too small and slow laterally to cover Lebron. Cavs can also abuse IT4 on switches -- and if the Celtics try to scramble to help, they'll get buried by 3's.
 

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Cleveland and Golden State are going to be nice and rested. Could have 2 Game 7's coming up.
 

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This Warriors Jazz series is likely a wrap (MFers!) unless Utah can get volume scoring from more than just Gordon Hayward.
 

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Real shame that this decent Jazz team don't even look competitive against the Warriors. Doesn't give much hope to the Rockets or Spurs.
 

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Real shame that this decent Jazz team don't even look competitive against the Warriors. Doesn't give much hope to the Rockets or Spurs.
I'm rooting for Spurs. Houston has 0.00001% chance of being competitive against Golden State and the Spurs by virtue of Pop/Kawhi have a 0.00005% chance.
 

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I think Houston could take a game or two from GS if they have a game like they did in Game 1 against SA where they just make 10,000 threes.
 

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These other teams just aren't very good. The east is flat out bad. The west is mediocre at best. Boston and Washington? Both could have lost in first round to awful teams. Toronto? Lol.

If Houston takes 70 threes a game they have a chance. Lolol. San Antonio has zero chance

It's boring as can be.
 

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I hope the finals will be good but it's highly likely the Warriors win in 5 or 6. Doubtful that it goes 7 like last year.
 

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The uncompetitiveness is hurting the product, IMO. We haven't had a dominant team like the Warriors in 15 years. They're really rolling through the playoffs too easily.
 

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I think Houston could take a game or two from GS if they have a game like they did in Game 1 against SA where they just make 10,000 threes.
Houston in 3 games vs. Golden State this year:

26-110 from 3 point range (23.6%)

I think the Warriors know how to guard them although they did lose once.
 

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The good news in all of this is that Gordon Hayward will have more to think about this offseason and a lot more time to think about it.
 

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The good news in all of this is that Gordon Hayward will have more to think about this offseason and a lot more time to think about it.
This is why I want a Celtics ECF appearance so badly. It's easier to sell the "we're close" narrative when you make the conference finals and don't have to go against a historically great team in their prime every year along with San Antonio.
 

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Houston in 3 games vs. Golden State this year:

26-110 from 3 point range (23.6%)

I think the Warriors know how to guard them although they did lose once.
The playoffs are a matchup game.....and this is NOT a good matchup for the Rockets. The Warriors have the length to switch and really get into Harden. In the 4 games he shot 4-17, 5-20, 6-13, and 8-23 as Capela and Anderson led them in scoring in two of those games while Harden led them with only 17 in another......he didn't have these struggles against the Spurs this year where 3 of the 4 games were decided by 2 points and the other by 6.

The sweep possibility exists.
 

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The playoffs are a matchup game.....and this is NOT a good matchup for the Rockets. The Warriors have the length to switch and really get into Harden. In the 4 games he shot 4-17, 5-20, 6-13, and 8-23 as Capela and Anderson led them in scoring in two of those games while Harden led them with only 17 in another......he didn't have these struggles against the Spurs this year where 3 of the 4 games were decided by 2 points and the other by 6.

The sweep possibility exists.
I agree, which is why I'm rooting for San Antonio and Klaws to advance. Don't think they can win 4 but they may be able to take it to 6.
 

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I agree, which is why I'm rooting for San Antonio and Klaws to advance. Don't think they can win 4 but they may be able to take it to 6.
The Spurs won 2 of the 3 regular season meetings with the two wins by 20+ points. Not having Parker hurts but this would be a real series with a legit chance to go 7 imo.
 

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The Spurs won 2 of the 3 regular season meetings with the two wins by 20+ points. Not having Parker hurts but this would be a real series with a legit chance to go 7 imo.
One of those Spurs wins was the very first game of the season and another was the 2nd night of a B2B at the end of a long road trip when the Warriors rested all their top players and started a line up of Barnes, Looney, Pachulia, McCaw, and Livingston. I wouldn't put much stock in those results.
 

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One of those Spurs wins was the very first game of the season and another was the 2nd night of a B2B at the end of a long road trip when the Warriors rested all their top players and started a line up of Barnes, Looney, Pachulia, McCaw, and Livingston. I wouldn't put much stock in those results.
This.

Golden State is just a death machine right now - they are playing the best ball of their season. Curry/Durant PNRs and Draymond Green's defense and passing are lethal. San Antonio never saw this version of the Warriors.

The Warriors are going to obliterate either team assuming no injuries. The only question is whether the Spurs or Rockets can steal a game.
 

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Yep, the Warriors are definitely not quite as good without Durant, Curry, Green, Thompson and Iguodala.

GS v. SA would have a chance to be a real series that goes 7, but also a chance to be a four-game wipeout, imho. I could see it being a battle due to the smartness of the Spurs and the greatness of Kawhi; but I could also see Pop's fascination with playing two traditional bigs and a 12-man rotation turning it into a Warriors romp (a la Games 1 and 4 of the Rockets series). If Pop gets as cute with his rotations as he did in Game 4 — inexplicably playing Danny Green only 22 minutes while giving 29 minutes to David Lee, e.g. — I think it could get ugly fast for SA.

On a related note: am I the only one who thought Pop sitting Kawhi as long as he did in Game 4 with the game still in doubt felt like a weirdly unnecessary white flag?
 
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I don't see how SA could survive on defense against the Warriors playing two of Gasol, Aldridge, and Lee. They're too slow and unathletic. The Warriors don't need a detailed scouting report and film session to know that David Lee can't defend pick and rolls or protect the rim, that's why they got rid of him. But if the Spurs have to go small, I don't think they have enough non-Kawhi scoring. The Warriors have a whole bunch of lengthy, athletic wing defenders (Thompson, Durant, Iguodala, Livingston, even Green on switches) who can make Kawhi work for his points. Aldridge would have to punish them down low but Draymond has generally defended him pretty well historically. The Spurs also don't have an explosive point guard who can exploit Curry's defensive weaknesses one-on-one. It's not a good matchup for San Antonio.
 

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At this point, Golden State is basically a horrible matchup for everyone. They really do have an embarrassment of riches. The 2008 Celtics had Ray Allen to spread the court so that Pierce, KG, and Rondo could get more space to operate. The Warriors have 3 Ray Allen's and a PF that can pass and dribble as well as some guards.

Your starting point for playing these guys is having an elite two-way SF like LeBron, Kawhi, Greek Freak, Butler, George, etc. You don't have one of those and good luck. Then, you need some creators and shooters to make them work on the defensive end. Spurs have some shooters but they're short on creators without Parker. Personally, I think their only chance would be to take the air out of the ball and hope to win a bunch of ugly games. They've shown some success at this in the past against the Warriors but it's so hard to dictate the pace against them.
 

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At least the Cavs have the shooters to spread the floor and keep up with GS. It's possible. But they need to shoot extremely well, Lebron and JR in particular. I don't think it's possible for Korver to not shoot well.

And the Cavs have Lebron. Kawhi is incredible but the rest of his team isn't enough.
 

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The Cavs match up much better with the Warriors, at least on offense. They have LeBron, plus in Kyrie they have a second explosive scorer who can attack mismatches on switches. And they have tons of shooting to penalize sending double teams at LeBron and Kyrie. Cleveland's problems are at the other end. A big reason Cleveland won in the Finals last year was that Harrison Barnes turned into a total black hole on offense: in Games 5-7, Barnes shot 5-32 and scored 15 total points. Cleveland's strategy of daring a non-Curry/Thompson Warrior to knock down shots isn't going to work anymore now that the guy taking those shots is Durant.
 

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These Tina Fey/Michael Che commercials are slowly killing me.