As someone who has been stuck on the wait list for going on a decade, this is disappointing. Was hoping for at least a small bump. Oh wellDoesn’t look to have an increase in any regular seat capacity.
As someone who has been stuck on the wait list for going on a decade, this is disappointing. Was hoping for at least a small bump. Oh wellDoesn’t look to have an increase in any regular seat capacity.
I don’t think so. This is basically being created to help the wine and cheese crowd out with a pathway between each side of the suites and club seats.Anyone know if this is going to add seats? wondering if this may help, at least a little, with the season ticket log jam
Signed, 10 years and counting
19 years and counting here.Anyone know if this is going to add seats? wondering if this may help, at least a little, with the season ticket log jam
Signed, 10 years and counting
You should be any day now? I’ll be at least 5 more years prob longer19 years and counting here.
Here’s what I know. In the spring of 2019 I called them and asked. The ticket office said they were offering seats for the 2019 season to people that got on the list in early fall of 2003. I’m oct/nov 2003. I was expecting them for the 2020 season but covid messed that up. Then I was expecting them for this past season and that didn’t happen. Would have figured turnover rate would have been higher due to no Brady/covid concerns. I’ll probably call them or email again this spring to get an update. The frustrating thing is that they won’t or can’t tell you how many people are in front of you on the list. They can just say “for this season we our offering to people that got on in this month/year”.You should be any day now? I’ll be at least 5 more years prob longer
yep ive gotten that. i knew, based on where the numbers were a couple years ago, i had a while to go. but i thought the churn rate would have been quicker post brady. we are probably moving in the next 5 years to the west coast so I am likely never going to actually get my chance.Here’s what I know. In the spring of 2019 I called them and asked. The ticket office said they were offering seats for the 2019 season to people that got on the list in early fall of 2003. I’m oct/nov 2003. I was expecting them for the 2020 season but covid messed that up. Then I was expecting them for this past season and that didn’t happen. Would have figured turnover rate would have been higher due to no Brady/covid concerns. I’ll probably call them or email again this spring to get an update. The frustrating thing is that they won’t or can’t tell you how many people are in front of you on the list. They can just say “for this season we our offering to people that got on in this month/year”.
Mac Jones might be clutch on that.but i thought the churn rate would have been quicker post brady.
Could it have been something as simple as the Tampa vs Patriot game from last year being such a huge attraction that it led to very little churn?Here’s what I know. In the spring of 2019 I called them and asked. The ticket office said they were offering seats for the 2019 season to people that got on the list in early fall of 2003. I’m oct/nov 2003. I was expecting them for the 2020 season but covid messed that up. Then I was expecting them for this past season and that didn’t happen. Would have figured turnover rate would have been higher due to no Brady/covid concerns. I’ll probably call them or email again this spring to get an update. The frustrating thing is that they won’t or can’t tell you how many people are in front of you on the list. They can just say “for this season we our offering to people that got on in this month/year”.
I think Mac was definitely a factor last year... a LOT of season ticket holders stuck around to see what the new guy could do.Mac Jones might be clutch on that.
I've never gone to a game but I've heard it's a PITA if you drive but maybe if you take the train it's not so bad?
I wouldn’t give up the opportunity even if you’re out west. I’ve been a sox season ticket holder since 2004 and the closest I’ve ever lived to New England has been Reading, PA. Since 2004 Ive lived in ND, AZ, CA(2x), PA, MN and now MI. I don’t plan on giving up my season tickets until I die or the re-seller market completely tanks… but that’s just me.yep ive gotten that. i knew, based on where the numbers were a couple years ago, i had a while to go. but i thought the churn rate would have been quicker post brady. we are probably moving in the next 5 years to the west coast so I am likely never going to actually get my chance.
Theres no reason really for churn at this point. You can sell probably every game for more than you paid for it on the fan marketplace exchange that’s setup now. Even if you go 1-2 times A year it’s so easy to get rid of tickets for a profit with no risk. Back in the day you had to sell them in person to someone, hope They don’t get in trouble and it took some effort.Could it have been something as simple as the Tampa vs Patriot game from last year being such a huge attraction that it led to very little churn?
I took over my stepfather’s Patriots season tickets 3 seasons ago. He got them for Parcells’ first season. He was going to dump them a few years ago and I was like, I’ll take ‘em. I was living in Italy at the time but I didn’t want to let those things go. They’re pretty easy to sell for the most part on the Gillette app. And, every now and then, I can make it to a game myself.I wouldn’t give up the opportunity even if you’re out west. I’ve been a sox season ticket holder since 2004 and the closest I’ve ever lived to New England has been Reading, PA. Since 2004 Ive lived in ND, AZ, CA(2x), PA, MN and now MI. I don’t plan on giving up my season tickets until I die or the re-seller market completely tanks… but that’s just me.
I’ll probably stay on for the same reason. Thinking maybe I can make just enough to afford to fly back for one game.I wouldn’t give up the opportunity even if you’re out west. I’ve been a sox season ticket holder since 2004 and the closest I’ve ever lived to New England has been Reading, PA. Since 2004 Ive lived in ND, AZ, CA(2x), PA, MN and now MI. I don’t plan on giving up my season tickets until I die or the re-seller market completely tanks… but that’s just me.
I think it’s great the Pats allow the tickets to stay in families but as someone waiting desperately for churn it def makes it that much slower :|I took over my stepfather’s Patriots season tickets 3 seasons ago. He got them for Parcells’ first season. He was going to dump them a few years ago and I was like, I’ll take ‘em. I was living in Italy at the time but I didn’t want to let those things go. They’re pretty easy to sell for the most part on the Gillette app. And, every now and then, I can make it to a game myself.
I went on the wait list in 1999 right before Gilette opened. I was told it would be 2-3 years — and then Brady/Belichick came along. I don’t know if they still do it, but the great part back then was they gave everyone on the wait list first rights at tickets — mostly SRO, but I would still buy them all. I attended almost every playoff game in the 2001-2005 range. Then, I moved to Los Angeles in 2005 — I finally got the call in 2009 and got two season tickets in the 2nd row of Section 340. I basically give them away to my friends/family, donate them, or occasionally sell them. The first game I ever attended in my own seats . . . Ahem. . .was the Patriots/Colts AFC Championship game that we won decidedly, but there were then scientific questions as a result. The second game I ever attended . . . . Ahem. . .. was the Thursday Night opener against KC in 2017 when we raised the banner.. . . .and then got smoked. I went to the Cowboys game this year.yep ive gotten that. i knew, based on where the numbers were a couple years ago, i had a while to go. but i thought the churn rate would have been quicker post brady. we are probably moving in the next 5 years to the west coast so I am likely never going to actually get my chance.
Yeah the ticket exchange was amazing. Went to a lot of playoff games during the dynasty. Now it’s just team/nfl sponsored ticket scalping essentially.Being on the list used to be a HUGE asset when they had their "face value" resale market. But then when they went to the same resale market everyone else uses, and thus the same upcharges, that was a huge carrot gone.
In my experience, this is totally game dependent. Obviously, like you noted, the Bucs game was well above face value. And I did notice the Mac Jones games were much harder to sell than the Brady year post Super Bowl win. That year, I probably made about $3k on my season tickets and sold a few games at face value but a lot of games I was getting anywhere from $50-200 over face value (depending on the game). This past season, I sold a couple under face value and got at least face value to a bit above face value for the rest of the games. I went to the Bucs game and that would have probably paid for the majority of the season but I had to go in person.If you're bummed about not having season tickets, keep in mind that most of the games wind up sold for well under face value in the week leading up to the game on all the marketplaces, the exception this year being Pats/Bucs, which dropped considerably, and Pats/Bills, which turned out to be a surprisingly meaningful late season game. Even in playoff times, the only game that would go somewhat over face was the AFC Championship. I totally understand the convenience of just having the tickets, but without season tickets, you're at absolute worst out the price of a beer or two, and you'll usually come out ahead.
I'd say more than 90% of what would move on the old ticket exchange was held back tickets that they still make available at face to waitlist people, but a lot of the time, by the time they're released, the secondary marketplaces are already below that cost anyway.
I wonder if I can write off my losses. Like when I can’t sell the preseason tickets or I have to sell those Dolphins tickets at a loss.Something else to keep in mind -- if you're selling on the NFL Ticket Network moving forward, as long as you clear $600 gross in the calendar year, you'll be hit with a 1099, and your sales will automatically be reported to the IRS. That goes into effect at the federal level this coming season (actually, it may have got into effect on 1/1/22). I think it's already been in place for a few years in Massachusetts.
Only if this is your business.I wonder if I can write off my losses. Like when I can’t sell the preseason tickets or I have to sell those Dolphins tickets at a loss.
I know that this week, they started to allow season ticket holders to start posting their tickets for sale on the TicketMaster site, or transfering them to other people for this season... but only if you had NOT opted to potentially relocate. I had opted into potential relocation, because I'm always up for the possibility of moving down towards the field, or closer to the 50 yard line. (Though to date, the options have been pretty limited every year.)So I just emailed the Patriots Ticket office in regards to my standing on “The List”. As of the 2019 season names called off the list joined in October 2003 (fuck you Aaron Boone). This tells me that the last 2 years the list has been stagnant. Obviously 2020 was covid=no fans. Not sure what happened last year?
I followed up and asked if they have pulled names of the list for the 2022 season. The answer was “no” as the renewal process has not been completed yet. I joined the list in November 2003… so yeah I’m following the situation closely to say the least. I will come back here and gloat if my name is pulled. Stay tuned.
Although it’s understandable considering industry-wide trends why Gillette or any other stadium will never add non-premium premium seating, it feels like a raw deal considering capacity has *decreased* as many seats have disappeared. The Encore and Optum areas have cleared out all of 319-321 and many rows of end zone seats, displacing many existing season ticket holders.I really wish this new construction included the addition of more seats. it really feels hopeless that someone like me, who has been waiting 12 years, will EVER get off the list (as I know we are STILL in the 2003 range). I dont know that even adding a couple thousand seats would have moved the needle, but its getting really depressing. We are probably moving across the country in a few years so really whats the point at this point. May just get my interest free loan back. :|
When they took away access to face value tickets, the wait list went from a tolerable disappointment to just plan waste of time territory. I dont need advance access to F***ing Garth Brooks tickets or Draft parties. I don't even live in New England anymore. All of this is so I can drive UP to Patriots games, the ONLY thing I will travel for.Although it’s understandable considering industry-wide trends why Gillette or any other stadium will never add non-premium premium seating, it feels like a raw deal considering capacity has *decreased* as many seats have disappeared. The Encore and Optum areas have cleared out all of 319-321 and many rows of end zone seats, displacing many existing season ticket holders.
Now I understand Gillette Stadium is being renovated for the next 20 years, not the preceding 20, so it’s impossible to expect the same level of on-field results, but it would be nice to be able to recoup what was lost instead of making the group of non-premium ticket holders an even more exclusive group.
It was a bummer to lose the exchange, but there’s still plenty of opportunities with pre sales. In the past two seasons with fans, I’ve seen a playoff game and Tom Brady’s return. There is also a potential for World Cup tickets in 2026. I also got a good price on Taylor Swift tickets, but that was unfortunately canceled.When they took away access to face value tickets, the wait list went from a tolerable disappointment to just plan waste of time territory. I dont need advance access to F***ing Garth Brooks tickets. I don't even live in New England. All of this is so I can drive UP to Patriots games, the ONLY thing I will travel for.
I hear you. I dont begrudge anyone. In this sense I was born 10 years too late. In the Parcells years, I was just graduating high school. In 2003, I was a couple years out of college making zero money living in NYC trying to pay rent. The minute I had some expendable cash to put down on seasons I did...and that was basically 5 years after the whole world did as well. So...yeah. It is what it is.I fear that it's going to take an extended period (2+ years) of shitty football before the season ticket turnover begins in earnest. Even if that happens, there will be plenty of people like me who like the live football experience enough to deal with bad home team performance. But given prices steadily increasing, eventually the bandwagon ticket holders will get sick of paying $$$ without seeing winning seasons.
Though I will say that where my seats are, there are a TON of other season tickets, and many, MANY of them are sold to others for at least 1/2 the games. As long as there is demand, you can potentially at least partially subsidize your season ticket purchase for the year by picking a few games and selling them on the Ticketmaster site.
Bottom line is that I don't envy people on the list right now, because I agree that there's not much light at the end of the tunnel without some major change in team performance, or ticket pricing.
I count my lucky stars every year that I got on the waiting list around the time that Parcells was hired, and when they opened Gillette, I was able to make the cut. I don't usually sell many of my tickets, unless I just can't go. For example, I will likely be posting the Xmas Eve game this year, because I don't want to go and come home to find all my stuff on the lawn.
That being said, you CAN get individual game tickets for most games through Ticketmaster, which are being sold by season ticket holders. But your best bet is to wait as long as you can before buying them. For example, the Tampa/TB return game had people trying to sell their seats for thousands at the beginning of the season, looking for that big windfall. By the time game week rolled around, anyone still looking to sell had dropped their prices significantly. And for non-marquee games, you can often find seats at or below list price the day before or morning of the game.
Small consolation, I know.
Ha. Let's hope NOTMaybe gas prices will get to $10 a gallon so people will refuse to drive all the way out to the Foxborough boonies?
When did you get on the list?As a follow-up to my previous note. I got an email today indicating that renewal rate is high, so there will be no seat relocation available to me. Not sure how that impacts new season ticket opportunities, but it likely means there will be a limited number available. Email summary below:
Good morning,
As we celebrate the 20th anniversary of Gillette Stadium this year, we can’t help but to reflect on how thankful we are for the decades of enduring support Patriots Season Ticket Members have demonstrated. Our members have filled the stadium every season it has been open – creating a home-field advantage that is second to none in the National Football League.
Our 2022 season ticket renewal rate is yet another indication of your steadfast loyalty. While we are humbled and incredibly proud of the dedication you have shown ahead of the coming season, our exceptionally high renewal rate has once again resulted in exceedingly limited seat inventory.
We understand that you submitted a request to relocate your seats, but unfortunately we will not have seat locations available to assist you this year. We appreciate your patience and understanding, and we encourage you to continue to submit the Seat Relocation Questionnaire each season so that we might assist you if options do open up in the future.
You figure even at $5 there will much less demand from ME and NH people, no?Maybe gas prices will get to $10 a gallon so people will refuse to drive all the way out to the Foxborough boonies?
Not a chance. It's already pretty close to $5 and I don't know a single person who has altered their driving habits one bit. Also, there is this:You figure even at $5 there will much less demand from ME and NH people, no?
Tourism expert and Plymouth State University professor Mark Okrant said that despite the high gas prices, he believes summer will be a very busy tourism season in New Hampshire.
Around '95 I think. At that point if you were on the waitlist, they'd offer you the ability to buy 4-packs of tickets... 3 regular season and one pre-season game. In the late 90s I would get 2 batches of tickets like that, and end up with 2 tickets to 6 regular season games, and 4 tickets to a single preseason game. You'd also get a shot at playoff tickets, which is how I was in the endzone seats for the tuck-rule game.When did you get on the list?
There are 14 games to play before then, but you'd have to think it'll be a critical game for both teams. And damn, the Blade ain't cheap - similar seats absolutely dwarf the prices in New Orleans (and they're heavily inflated for the Burrow/Chase homecoming) and Baltimore.Hard to gauge this far out. I think the market will depend quite a lot on the importance of the game.
Agreed, I was monitoring the secondary market, trying to plan a family tailgate for Bills at Pats which looked to be a cheap one, as many cold weather games are. My plan was to buy the week of, as that’s when games are typically at their lowest price. However, as the Patriots went on a winning streak, that game became the de facto AFC East championship and I got burned as prices skyrocketed upwards.Hard to gauge this far out. I think the market will depend quite a lot on the importance of the game.
I followed ticket prices a bit last season trying to get to a game, which I did, late October against Cleveland. There's a lot of week to week variance depending on the teams results. If you jumped on Pats/Bill tickets when the Patriots were 2-4 then you got yourself a bargain. If you waited until it became the defacto showdown for the AFCE, then you paid through the roof.There are 14 games to play before then, but you'd have to think it'll be a critical game for both teams. And damn, the Blade ain't cheap - similar seats absolutely dwarf the prices in New Orleans (and they're heavily inflated for the Burrow/Chase homecoming) and Baltimore.
The Pats went to dynamic ticket pricing a few years back. So the total cost of season tickets didn't change much, the cost to individual games varies by opponent/desirability. I haven't looked at the breakdown for my seats yet (I have season tickets in sections 123 and 129), but I would imagine the Bengals, Bills games are going to be the highest priced, while the Jets, etc. will be the lowest. Last year, the lowest price game for my tickets was around $89 face value, and for the Bucs game, they were around $239 or so.There are 14 games to play before then, but you'd have to think it'll be a critical game for both teams. And damn, the Blade ain't cheap - similar seats absolutely dwarf the prices in New Orleans (and they're heavily inflated for the Burrow/Chase homecoming) and Baltimore.
Congrats! I'd be curious to hear where you end up getting seats. In my first year, we ended up on the aisle in the lower half of 317, but that was everyone's first year there so the options were a little less constrained, I imagine. Approaching nosebleed land. But still had a perfectly good view of the field.My day has arrived. Got the email this morning. About a week ago I was thinking to myself that I missed out on another year. Only took 19 years. November 2003 sign up. Here’s the email for those wondering what to look for. View attachment 52800