They would probably enjoy discussing what government means to them.Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Kyrie. Enjoy the hipsters in Brooklyn.
But what you're asking is impossible: Kyrie doesn't enjoy anything.
They would probably enjoy discussing what government means to them.Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Kyrie. Enjoy the hipsters in Brooklyn.
I'd hate it even more since Smart would be going to Philly.Smart is the only reasonable way for Capela to work.
I kind of hate that deal for a lot of reasons but it does make sense from a talent perspective.
It makes no sense. Capela makes virtually no sense for this team, especially with four years at ~$18mm per and that is even if they get Walker. Walker is decent from beyond the arc but not elite nor efficient.Smart is the only reasonable way for Capela to work.
I kind of hate that deal for a lot of reasons but it does make sense from a talent perspective.
No. He can't.Moving Smart at all costs is awesome. Langford can replace him anyway.
I am going to assume this isn't a troll post. What is your reasoning for wanting to move Smart at all costs? Would you have the Celtics buy him out? Trade him for a few future seconds?Moving Smart at all costs is awesome. Langford can replace him anyway.
You know far more about this that I do, so my question is ... if Capela's not a good fit for this iteration of the Celtics, why does it appear that they're trying to trade for him?It makes no sense. Capela makes virtually no sense for this team, especially with four years at ~$18mm per and that is even if they get Walker. Walker is decent from beyond the arc but not elite nor efficient.
Capela would be great if the Celtics had a two more regular rotation deep shooters. I think some people want/hope or think that basketball is going back to ISOs and low post play. Otherwise, Capela makes no sense with a team that cannot spread the floor.
I think(?) he was being sarcastic.No. He can't.
Moving Smart for Capela is a clear downgrade to me.
Langford isn't replacing anybody this year. I'd be surprised if he's in the 9 man rotation.
Not a Smart fan in today's NBA. Doesn't shoot it enough for me and he's got a big cap hit.I am going to assume this isn't a troll post. What is your reasoning for wanting to move Smart at all costs? Would you have the Celtics buy him out? Trade him for a few future seconds?
Your team of Capela, Walker, Langford, Hayward and Tatum will get absolutely roasted on defense imho.
I don't know that they are. The Celtics, because of their assets and their unique position of being half-way between a contending and a middling young team, tend to get linked to a lot of deals, especially multiple team ones. Some of it is likely due to Ainge's opportunism.You know far more about this that I do, so my question is ... if Capela's not a good fit for this iteration of the Celtics, why does it appear that they're trying to trade for him?
$12.5 million is not a big cap hit for a player like Smart. Among PG's, he's making less than Gorin Dragic, Jeff Teague, Reggie Jackson, Brandon Knight, George Hill, Jordan Clarkson, and Dennis Schroeder.Not a Smart fan in today's NBA. Doesn't shoot it enough for me and he's got a big cap hit.
Agreed. And Ainge has long liked to involve himself in these discussions occasionally landing a pick or other asset in exchange for helping faciltiate a deal. So I'm sure he's talking to Houston and involved in some scenarios which involve Capela---some where Celts keep him, some where they facilitate him going elsehwere. But Celts likely have disucssed literally dozens of scenarios so it doesn't mean much a few involved Capela.I don't know that they are. The Celtics, because of their assets and their unique position of being half-way between a contending and a middling young team, tend to get linked to a lot of deals, especially multiple team ones. Some of it is likely due to Ainge's opportunism.
On the other hand, maybe Ainge/Stevens et al see something that I don't see. But on its surface, Capela is a 6-10/11 guy who can occupy some space, is very good on PnRs and catch some lobs.
Trading away the Celtics best defender and best current player who is on a fair, if not bargain, contract for a one-plus skill guy who makes more money seems very un-Ainge-like to me.
Clint Capela is an elite finisher, defender and rebounder. He can't stretch the floor, but you're overly focused on what he can't do instead of what he does do. Moving a back-up guard for a starting big man, both of whom are on fair salaries, seems like a move that makes a ton of sense.I don't know that they are. The Celtics, because of their assets and their unique position of being half-way between a contending and a middling young team, tend to get linked to a lot of deals, especially multiple team ones. Some of it is likely due to Ainge's opportunism.
On the other hand, maybe Ainge/Stevens et al see something that I don't see. But on its surface, Capela is a 6-10/11 guy who can occupy some space, is very good on PnRs and catch some lobs.
Trading away the Celtics best defender and best current player who is on a fair, if not bargain, contract for a one-plus skill guy who makes more money seems very un-Ainge-like to me.
I will grant you finisher and rebounder. He is not elite at anything defensively unless I am missing a metric that you are looking at. He is pretty average defensively and is a switch target.Clint Capela is an elite finisher, defender and rebounder. He can't stretch the floor, but you're overly focused on what he can't do instead of what he does do. Moving a back-up guard for a starting big man, both of whom are on fair salaries, seems like a move that makes a ton of sense.
Oh, you weren't being sarcastic?Not a Smart fan in today's NBA. Doesn't shoot it enough for me and he's got a big cap hit.
Assume away. Hot take bot.I am going to assume this isn't a troll post. What is your reasoning for wanting to move Smart at all costs? Would you have the Celtics buy him out? Trade him for a few future seconds?
Your team of Capela, Walker, Langford, Hayward and Tatum will get absolutely roasted on defense imho.
If you frame it this way, sure.Clint Capela is an elite finisher, defender and rebounder. He can't stretch the floor, but you're overly focused on what he can't do instead of what he does do. Moving a back-up guard for a starting big man, both of whom are on fair salaries, seems like a move that makes a ton of sense.
Are you just looking at 2018-19 or are you considering 2017-18 as well? He was top five in defensive rating league-wide and something like second among centers in D-PIPM. 538's CARMELO had him 90th percentile in defense. Even if you consider that year the outlier he still rated out better than average by most metrics this year. Maybe I'm using elite too casually here, but he's a good defender.I will grant you finisher and rebounder. He is not elite at anything defensively unless I am missing a metric that you are looking at. He is pretty average defensively and is a switch target.
As a side note, the gamehtreads where Stevens leaves him in while teams play the hack-a-Clint would be a bloodbath.
Smart, Yabu and a pick for Capela works. Get it done.
Back-up guard in the sense that it's the most likely role he'll play for Boston, whereas Capela would start and get the bulk of minutes at C. From a team-building perspective it makes sense. If you don't believe Capela is good enough for that role, that's fine. This wasn't meant as a knock on Smart.If you frame it this way, sure.
But is Marcus Smart just a run of the mill back up guard? The dude can play 1-3, and even has the strength to guard 4s. He's actually an elite defender, I don't think Capela is.
It's not like Smart is going to play 15 minutes a game like a back up point guard. He's going to be in the high 20s, probably in the ballpark of minutes Capela plays.
I think Smart is a better player than Capela, it's just that Smarts' biggest, maybe only?, weakness is shooting which is the most noticeable one to anyone watching games.
Totally agree with you. I really don't understand the Capela fascination, let alone giving up legit assets for him.No. He can't.
Moving Smart for Capela is a clear downgrade to me.
Langford isn't replacing anybody this year. I'd be surprised if he's in the 9 man rotation.
Right, and I'm saying back-up guard isn't the best way to categorize him because he's going to play starter level minutes across three different positions.Back-up guard in the sense that it's the most likely role he'll play for Boston, whereas Capela would start and get the bulk of minutes at C. From a team-building perspective it makes sense. If you don't believe Capela is good enough for that role, that's fine. This wasn't meant as a knock on Smart.
The '17-18 season looks more like an outlier result than a trend given the rest of his career.Are you just looking at 2018-19 or are you considering 2017-18 as well? He was top five in defensive rating league-wide and something like second among centers in D-PIPM. 538's CARMELO had him 90th percentile in defense. Even if you consider that year the outlier he still rated out better than average by most metrics this year. Maybe I'm using elite too casually here, but he's a good defender.
If the Celtics do go ahead and get him, wouldn’t that indicate that some very bright NBA people strongly disagree with you?It makes no sense. Capela makes virtually no sense for this team, especially with four years at ~$18mm per and that is even if they get Walker. Walker is decent from beyond the arc but not elite nor efficient.
Capela would be great if the Celtics had a two more regular rotation deep shooters. I think some people want/hope or think that basketball is going back to ISOs and low post play. Otherwise, Capela makes no sense with a team that cannot spread the floor.
He's a weird player to evaluate. He was extremely raw, and developed over time. He was really good in 2017-2018 (contract year), and then promptly went and got fat as soon as he got his contract. He played better as the year went on from what I saw on occasion, and then was part of Houston absolutely toasting Utah. GSW is an awful matchup for him, but that team basically doesn't exist anymore, and it's really helpful in the East to have good bigs.The '17-18 season looks more like an outlier result than a trend given the rest of his career.
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In Smart's final 42 games last season he shot 38.1% from 3 point range. For the season, his FG% was 42.2, the best ever for him.If you frame it this way, sure.
But is Marcus Smart just a run of the mill back up guard? The dude can play 1-3, and even has the strength to guard 4s. He's actually an elite defender, I don't think Capela is.
It's not like Smart is going to play 15 minutes a game like a back up point guard. He's going to be in the high 20s, probably in the ballpark of minutes Capela plays.
I think Smart is a better player than Capela, it's just that Smarts' biggest, maybe only?, weakness is shooting which is the most noticeable one to anyone watching games.
No - Turner's cap hit is $18m so Smart would pretty much have to be part of any trade to make the numbers work, unless I'm missing something.How would a Myles Turner trade work cap-wise? Would you be able to keep Smart (and just send Jaylen + Yabu and/or non-MEM picks)?
She was excellent on ESPN's draft coverage on the radio.The Boston Celtics are hiring Kara Lawson as an assistant coach, league sources tell ESPN. Lawson, an ex-WNBA and Olympic champion, has been an NBA commentator with ESPN and the TV analyst for the Washington Wizards.
--Woj
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1144325572413313026
She's excellent.She was excellent on ESPN's draft coverage on the radio.
This is awesome.The Boston Celtics are hiring Kara Lawson as an assistant coach, league sources tell ESPN. Lawson, an ex-WNBA and Olympic champion, has been an NBA commentator with ESPN and the TV analyst for the Washington Wizards.
--Woj
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1144325572413313026
Aren't cap hits sometimes lower for recently extended players that get big raises? I just don't know when the cutoff is for "recent," maybe that only applies to sign-and-trades but not players extended during the season...No - Turner's cap hit is $18m so Smart would pretty much have to be part of any trade to make the numbers work, unless I'm missing something.
Fantastic move. Ordway is killing the move which proves the reverse. Basketball unlike any other sport has the fewest difference between the women's game and the men's. I believe she is now the 5th. Props to Adam Silver for actively pushing this.The Boston Celtics are hiring Kara Lawson as an assistant coach, league sources tell ESPN. Lawson, an ex-WNBA and Olympic champion, has been an NBA commentator with ESPN and the TV analyst for the Washington Wizards.
--Woj
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1144325572413313026
Indeed she is. I'm a huge fan - well, other than that I'm a big UConn women's fan and she went to Tennessee, but I've long since forgiven her for that.She's excellent.
Turner's new contract is basically 4yr/$80M, but $2M of that $20M AAV is in unlikely to be earned incentives. The new contract always counts for salary cap and trading purposes.Aren't cap hits sometimes lower for recently extended players that get big raises? I just don't know when the cutoff is for "recent," maybe that only applies to sign-and-trades but not players extended during the season...
Ain't nothing like Boston bitter.Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Kyrie. Enjoy the hipsters in Brooklyn.
If that's the case why is nobody saying crap about Al Horford?Ain't nothing like Boston bitter.
Because people get that he would have stayed if Kyrie hadn't welched, and that he's on a different timeline than the rest of the team and wants a ring.If that's the case why is nobody saying crap about Al Horford?
I agree. The resentment toward Kyire isn't "Boston bitter". It's Kyrie reaping what he sowed.Because people get that he would have stayed if Kyrie hadn't welched, and that he's on a different timeline than the rest of the team and wants a ring.
It turns out that humans are pretty good at handling and evaluating complex interpersonal situations with lots of nuances. Almost as if they evolved to do it.
I don't know man. I'm as big a Marcus Smart fan as you'll find, and even I don't think I could categorize his shooting as anything but a weakness.In Smart's final 42 games last season he shot 38.1% from 3 point range. For the season, his FG% was 42.2, the best ever for him.
.422/.364/.806, with a .533 eFG%I don't know man. I'm as big a Marcus Smart fan as you'll find, and even I don't think I could categorize his shooting as anything but a weakness.
If you want to take the best shooting year of Smarts' career as his norm now, I guess you can..422/.364/.806, with a .533 eFG%
.434/.356/.844, with a .511 eFG%
One of those guys can't shoot. The other is about to get $141 million from the Celtics. The one who can't shoot is one of the best defenders in the league.
Hopefully, Smart turned the corner on his shooting, and this past season wasn't a fluke. He was assisted on 69% of his makes this past season, and only 50% the season before. Smart should again benefit by playing next to a good scorer (if Kemba comes here), like he did this past season in the starting lineup with Kyrie.
Turner is $18MAren't cap hits sometimes lower for recently extended players that get big raises? I just don't know when the cutoff is for "recent," maybe that only applies to sign-and-trades but not players extended during the season...
Rozier would have to want Indy though because signing Kemba is predicated on renouncing his RFA rights, correct?Turner is $18M
We'd need to get to $16.2M, so Brown $6.5M & Yabu $3.1M & Rozier (4yr at $54-64M) S&T gets it done, me thinks.
Some of the cap wizards can weigh in if I screwed this up.
Indy is in the market for a wing and a PG to pair with Oladipo. This would be a good way to bring in talent (Rozier), retain talent (Sabonis and Brown RFA next yr), and balance their roster.
The hit pieces coming Kyrie's way are going to be epic I betAin't nothing like Boston bitter.
Problem is that would require Rozier agreeing to go to Indy, which would be dependent on whether he could get a better deal elsewhere or if there was a team (Knicks?) where he felt like he could go and be a more definitive #1 PG, if that's truly what he wants.Turner is $18M
We'd need to get to $16.2M, so Brown $6.5M & Yabu $3.1M & Rozier (4yr at $54-64M) S&T gets it done, me thinks.
Some of the cap wizards can weigh in if I screwed this up.
Indy is in the market for a wing and a PG to pair with Oladipo. This would be a good way to bring in talent (Rozier), retain talent (Sabonis and Brown RFA next yr), and balance their roster.