Thank you for this. Every single thread this is mentioned and every single time someone says “well what reports?” and then they attack the reporters.
Amen to this. Can we get a little more consistency and a little less hypocrisy here?
Yeah I got no problems at all bringing Duvall back. He was really solid for them last year. RH power. Not elite power but good enough. A homer every 16.8 plate appearances. That's good.
I took that to mean that they're willing to a premium for premium talent. The preference is to not over pay for mediocrity.
Like many of the front office's statements, it does leave room for interpretation.
Strictly speaking, no, it would not be a solid inference given their goals of developing younger players and targeting FAs who will be productive for a long time. (In fact, it's classic affirming the consequent reasoning.)
Yes.
Same here @moondog80 he was very productive when healthy. 21 HR in 92 games is solid. I wish the OBP was a little higher, but the fact he can play all three OF positions is a plus. Also, he seemed to like it here. I'm on board, then Refsnyder is definitely expendable.
It absolutely is a thing. Bally Sports declared bankruptcy and just got a nice lifeline from Amazon. The Padres traded Soto because they lost their TV deal.
This right here. I can live with it if Breslow and Bailey did not think that his stuff was going to translate to MLB and he would end up as fringe SP depth or in the bullpen. But if they believed that he was a mid rotation SP with upside and he was handcuffed by ownership because they wouldn't go beyond 2 yrs for a guy who is 30 yrs old, led his league in K's, and was really good in the WBC, that would make me furious and depressed. We will likely never know.
I was thinking specifically of Martinez when I wrote:
And even in that scenario, Boras and Martinez were holding out, but I think it was one of those times when there really wasn't a "mystery team" out there anywhere. Martinez had few other real suitors, and the Sox knew it. They had more confidence to get into a staring match with Boras, and in the end they won.
Texas hasn’t been reported as out but the rest of this thread re Diamond Sports certainly suggests they may be. I’ll continue to assume there are 3 teams left for Monty and Snell, but it might just be agents keeping Texas rumors afloat.
I wouldn’t think the Mets are out. He can afford any contract and could swoop in at any time.
I don't think @Sandy Leon Trotsky was wrong, but I lean more toward your thoughts on this. I'm not ready to rule Texas out just yet, just hope they can't swing it do the Diamond Sports stuff. Craig should just call SF and flip a coin, heads gets one of them, tails gets the other LOL
I think the Mets were YY or bust and will be looking to reboot their entire team, as probably the Sox should have done after '21, but ah well. I think they're out. More than just the Sox budget, there's reasons why Montgomery and Snell aren't getting YY's or Gerrit Cole money. Once you pay guys that don't have that track record of consistent high level excellence or youth (in YY's case) then guys like Pivetta end up looking like $25M for 5 year deals. It's not really collusion (although Boras would claim it is) as much as market correction. Neither of these guys are even close to what Snell was demanding from the Yankees. And it is good for the Yankees to not pay that even though they could (it's NOT MY MONEY!!11!!).
They signed Yariel Rodriguez (terms not announced yet) and the rumor was that they got him because they were going to give him a chance to start in that 5th spot.
I mean, it’s Bob Nightengale, so I don’t take the Snell wants $240 million story as gospel. But why conflate the two? One is a small item in the footer of a much larger feature story, and (imo) totally consistent with what Snell, a two-time CYA-winning pitcher and Scott Boras client — who has not yet signed by Jan 19th — would ask for. Maybe it’s not exactly $240 million. Who cares.
In the minds of these payroll truthers, it's not possible to have problems with one media outlet's handling of the story and find any other reporting outlet credible. That's evidence of hypocrisy or bias. (It's the lame stream media!) Doesn't matter how many times I say I want them to spend, I'm "carrying water for FSG" if I find the payroll truther story less than credible, if I question whether we should spend indiscriminately for the sake of spending, whether we should give a blank check to a good-not-great pitcher who's said he'd rather live elsewhere.
Oh, word. I didn't connect the dots on that. So yeah, the question of that analogy is whether Montgomery and Snell really have more than the two obvious suitors, Boston and San Francisco.
No. I read all your posts here bashing anything that goes against your worldview while blindly nodding along to any report that does. It's very interesting what you choose to belittle versus what you choose to believe. Then you come here telling us our perceptions are wrong, you're totally misunderstood and the sky is actually red.
I don't know if we get more, but maybe someone comes to hit our current price, whatever that is? But yeah, I immediately thought Hader signing might impact the Sox recent stalemate with everyone.
The weird thing with San Francisco is that they're also in on Chapman and Bellinger, who they arguably need more than pitching.
I finally got a chance to set aside the 33 minutes to listen to this in it's entirely. Which predictably and for the most part just amounted to the latest reboot of the same vague "guidelines to success" corporate answers speech we've already heard more then a couple times before over the last 20 some odd years. The same 20+ years btw that has:
I continue to think a subsidized Kenley to the Rangers makes the most sense for both teams.
To be fair (and I would put this as point A, personally, but that's just me)
No, they don't. They signed Yuki Matsui to a 5 year deal. https://www.mlb.com/news/yuki-matsui-padres-free-agent-deal#:~:text=The Padres signed Japanese reliever,joins that list of acquisitions. They may still need bullpen help (ie Martin) but they signed a closer.
Wonder if we could instigate a little bidding war around the AL Central. Seems like everyone but Chicago is making some semblance of trying this year.
BTW. Moving Jansen only works if they add a starter cementing Whitlock/Houck to the pen.
I'd be shocked if they didn't grab Ryu, Paxton, or Lorenzen (Clevinger a PR nightmare). There is still plenty of time. Houck should be the closer. Whitlock is a good reliever in high leverage spots. Pivetta and Crawford are in the rotation by the way the B's have spoken.
Probably not, because Cleveland is ostensibly listening on Clase. So that may need to shake out first. That said, if Breslow is willing to give literally every dollar on both Jansen and Martin to increase return (which I think he will and should) then that does mean every team that is "trying" should be in play. Which I think is your bigger point - though I'm not trying to put words in your mouth - but if so, I'd certainly agree with that if you make J/M "free" in terms of dollars.
Disagree here, respectfully. If you can get something pretty good for 2025+ for a fully paid Jansen (and I think you can) you make that move regardless. You can always then go sign someone like Chapman, Robertson, Fulmer whatever and put them in the bullpen.
I really do not get the eagerness to bring back Duvall. I think it's all recency bias. He was great at Fenway and got very pull-happy here, which was good for his numbers, but I suspect pitchers will exploit that next year.
FWIW, if I were Breslow I’d be more than willing to engage in conversations if anyone wanted to take eitherof those deals off my hands. The way Bloom should have with Sale, and Breslow thankfully did. Not that the players stink, but that I’d rather have the money to spend on my vision vs someone else’s.
