They need Seager backThis Dodgers lineup really falls off after Puig. They don’t have the bats to bang with an AL team.
What do you mean misses like that? He turned his mitt (and used his throwing hand) expecting a ball in the dirt, and it was. It's not that easy to catch a shorthop cleanly.They only showed the view I thought was conclusive once. Front view is not the best.
When a catcher misses like that there is usually a reason and the side view confirmed it for me at least.
He didn't overrule him. Umps never volunteer information on another ump's primary call unless the primary asks for help, which HPU clearly did.That may have been a foul tip, but there is no way a 3B ump should be overriding the HP ump on that. The umps all suck, and they ruin baseball.
Well, I mean, we saw the initial conversation and it was clear he was telling Granderson he didn't tip it. I don't think the home plate umpire needed help there. I think he caved to Roberts' demand that he ask for help. He probably figured there was nothing to lose, but he was wrong.Announcers piss me off on ump issues. That worked exactly like you want it to on a nonreviewable call. This bullshit about which ump gets to call it sucks.
HPU admitted he wasn't sure and asked for help. That's step 1. If he doesn't do that, 3B holds his tongue and does nothing. But he asked for help. Step 2 is whether anyone else has more information. 3B said that he did. Step 3 is crew chief asks if anyone else wants to weigh in. That's the fucking procedure and that's what we want, as every Red Sox fan knows.
Also, as Darling just noted, we don't know why HPU asked. He may well have had it as a tip but thought it was caught but needed help on whether it hit the ground, which is a 3BU call.
He burned out Chapman last post-season and it came oh so close to biting him in the ass. Chapman finished on fumes.I hope the Cubs blow this. Leaving a burned out Davis in is crazy. I mean, LA is using their 5th/6th best relievers right now. This needs to bite Maddon in the ass so he can get roasted over the coals all winter.
Not going to happen. He won the WS last year after a million year drought.I hope the Cubs blow this. Leaving a burned out Davis in is crazy. I mean, LA is using their 5th/6th best relievers right now. This needs to bite Maddon in the ass so he can get roasted over the coals all winter.
The way it worked, whether he "caved" or not, is exactly how you want it to work if you want the best chance of the best call on a nonreviewable play. Any call can get kicked, including by 6 guys or 1. Bullshit like Darling was spewing is old constipated thinking about which ump should always call this or that, which took 50 years for umps and MLB to get past.Well, I mean, we saw the initial conversation and it was clear he was telling Granderson he didn't tip it. I don't think the home plate umpire needed help there. I think he caved to Roberts' demand that he ask for help. He probably figured there was nothing to lose, but he was wrong.
Actually, the way it's probably supposed to work is that Roberts gets warned, then ejected. Managers are not allowed to come out and argue judgment calls. They can "appeal" incorrect rule interpretations, and a catcher can make the umpire ask for help on a check swing called a ball. But here, there shouldn't really be discretion to argue.The way it worked, whether he "caved" or not, is exactly how you want it to work if you want the best chance of the best call on a nonreviewable play. Any call can get kicked, including by 6 guys or 1. Bullshit like Darling was spewing is old constipated thinking about which ump should always call this or that, which took 50 years for umps and MLB to get past.
The ump conference was one of the best developments ever in Major League Baseball umpiring and if it maybe got a call wrong there (which I don't think it did) that isn't a reason to go back to territorial 1970s ump nonsense.
Respectfully, You're moving the goalposts. Second, bullshit. Every one of these guys has thousands of games under his belt. Every one of them has developed a rapport with managers about which magic words cross over from questioning a call to arguing it. There is way more latitude than you seem to acknowledge, other than ball/strike and replay decisions.Actually, the way it's probably supposed to work is that Roberts gets warned, then ejected. Managers are not allowed to come out and argue judgment calls. They can "appeal" incorrect rule interpretations, and a catcher can make the umpire ask for help on a check swing called a ball. But here, there shouldn't really be discretion to argue.
I always thought that was the definition of Ben Zobrist.Chris Taylor is what Brock Holt would be if Holt were a good hitter.
Yeah but 48 pitches. Wow. Maddon will use him again tomorrow night.Davis might have just hit a wall, release point looked way off.
Edit: LOL
Then gets the game-ending DP
With all due respect, nope. He made a call. Strike, out. Then Roberts came out to argue that judgment call. And then he caved, and that's not how it's supposed to work under the rules.Respectfully, You're moving the goalposts. Second, bullshit. Every one of these guys has thousands of games under his belt. Every one of them has developed a rapport with managers about which magic words cross over from questioning a call to arguing it. There is way more latitude than you seem to acknowledge, other than ball/strike and replay decisions.
9.02
- Any umpire's decision which involves judgment, such as, but not limited to, whether a batted ball is fair or foul, whether a pitch is a strike or a ball, or whether a runner is safe or out, is final. No player, manager, coach or substitute shall object to any such judgment decisions.
Rule 9.02(a) Comment: Players leaving their position in the field or on base, or managers or coaches leaving the bench or coaches box, to argue on BALLS AND STRIKES will not be permitted. They should be warned if they start for the plate to protest the call. If they continue, they will be ejected from the game.
- If there is reasonable doubt that any umpire's decision may be in conflict with the rules, the manager may appeal the decision and ask that a correct ruling be made. Such appeal shall be made only to the umpire who made the protested decision.
- If a decision is appealed, the umpire making the decision may ask another umpire for information before making a final decision. No umpire shall criticize, seek to reverse or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked to do so by the umpire making it.
If the Cubs lose are they going to take away last year's Championship?Cool. Let's bring on the heartbreak.
I'm reading a rule that suggests it worked exactly like it should, other than your claim to know what was in HPU's head and whether Robers used magic words that took it beyond a request for information and an appeal to arguing.With all due respect, nope. He made a call. Strike, out. Then Roberts came out to argue that judgment call. And then he caved, and that's not how it's supposed to work under the rules.
It has nothing to do with magic words. 9.02(a) concerns judgment calls. B and C concern rules interpretations/application. There is a difference. The latter are things that form the basis of a protested game, the former don't.I'm reading a rule that suggests it worked exactly like it should, other than your claim to know what was in HPU's head and whether Robers used magic words that took it beyond a request for information and an appeal to arguing.
So Tito should have been run when he came out of the dugout, gesticulating wildly, and asked 1BU to ask for help?It has nothing to do with magic words. 9.02(a) concerns judgment calls. B and C concern rules interpretations/application. There is a difference. The latter are things that form the basis of a protested game, the former don't.
Nope. That's a rules decision. Look, I'm not going to fight with you any more. You're right. Everyone followed the rules. And anyway, the instant replay clearly showed a foul tip. Enjoy your night.So Tito should have been run when he came out of the dugout, gesticulating wildly, and asked 1BU to ask for help?
First, taking the ball and going home is horseshit.Nope. That's a rules decision. Look, I'm not going to fight with you any more. You're right. Everyone followed the rules. And anyway, the instant replay clearly showed a foul tip. Enjoy your night.
No, continuing to argue with a person belligerently defending an admittedly blown call would be horseshit. You've got the eagle eye, boss.First, taking the ball and going home is horseshit.