scottyno said:have fun writing a giant check to the league doc
I'm sure his owner will pick it up on his behalf. :c070:
scottyno said:have fun writing a giant check to the league doc
shawnrbu said:
Rivers wants the NBA to quit on instant replay like he quit on the Celtics.
"we didn't have the angle" is such a load of crap, I would have more respect for refs/umps etc in general if they admit they blew the call, and not hide behind shit like that… Doc IS justifiedNWsoxophile said:Doc is ranting pissed and he's completely justified. The officials told him they didn't have the angle, despite it being shown in the arena. That is laughable.
you think if he told ownership he was 100% committed to a rebuild that he would have been gone? he signed a 5 year extension after the 2011 season, he knew what was coming when he signed thatDeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
He didn't quit. His time in Boston was done. The guy is a great coach.
scottyno said:you think if he told ownership he was 100% committed to a rebuild that he would have been gone? he signed a 5 year extension after the 2011 season, he knew what was coming when he signed that
Things is, I don't think they blew the call per se. It was clear from the replay that the ball was off OKC. It was also clear that the ball was lost due to a Barnes foul that they neglected to call. It had to be a make up call. Of course they can't fess up to it because they have no authority to do that when reviewing an out of bounds/possession play.soxhop411 said:"we didn't have the angle" is such a load of crap, I would have more respect for refs/umps etc in general if they admit they blew the call, and not hide behind shit like that… Doc IS justified
NWsoxophile said:Things is, I don't think they blew the call per se. It was clear from the replay that the ball was off OKC. It was also clear that the ball was lost due to a Barnes foul that they neglected to call. It had to be a make up call. Of course they can't fess up to it because they have no authority to do that when reviewing an out of bounds/possession play.
Statman said:I was a big critic of Doc during his tenure in Boston but he is a damn good coach. We'd be lucky if Stevens is half the coach Doc is.
bball831 said:Shaq's lack of basketball knowledge and/or the ability to make coherent statements is always on full display during these segments. Unless he can criticize a big man or say "barbecue chicken" he's completely useless. TNT should can him and just bring Webber back to the studio.
He's better than Jim Rice.bball831 said:Shaq's lack of basketball knowledge and/or the ability to make coherent statements is always on full display during these segments. Unless he can criticize a big man or say "barbecue chicken" he's completely useless. TNT should can him and just bring Webber back to the studio.
Kliq said:The ball was clearly off Jackson, I don't think Barnes even touched the ball actually, but the fact of the matter is Barnes fouled him on the play. The refs saw that, and awarded the ball to OKC out of bounds. Is that the correct call? Under the current replay rules, it isn't. LA should have been awarded the ball. However, in the interest of fairness, I think the refs did the right thing in letting OKC retain possession of the ball.
I'm with you on this. It's sad that Doc's time here isn't/wasn't appreciated more for holding that group together. Very few coaches could ever contain that locker room and those massive massive egos and I'm one to give very little credit to the head coach as its a players league.DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
And they traded him and got an asset in return. Things changed...and in the process, both sides got closer to their goals. I really cannot believe that any true Celtics fan can dislike Doc Rivers after he brought another banner to the rafters. I am a fan of his for life - he is all class. Bill Simmons and others can forget what he did for the C's but I never will.
NWsoxophile said:Definitely a foul, but I've seen that same situation play out with replay many times this year, and the officials have been consistent in not basing their replay decision on the foul. They don't have that discretion. Maybe they should, but they don't.
I agree about getting his team to focus but youre missing a key point in that comparison. In the nba, you can significantly influence the refs through the media. It will help them get calls in game 6riboflav said:Rivers is a great coach but one of his flaws has always been his ability, at critical times, to get his team to focus. This was especially evident down the stretch last night where the Clippers' players were still griping at the refs during play. It happened most clearly, as previously noted, during the Paul foul on the 3-point shot. Rivers complaining to the extent that he did after the game is another example. Imagine BB or Tito doing the same. Heck, one of the biggest reasons the Sox won the WS last year is that Farrell after the controversial ending to game 3 turned the page as fast as possible, telling the team the umps ultimately got the call right. The team could then simply move ahead focused on winning game 4. It's also one of the things that has struck me as odd about the Sterling situation. It's time for Rivers to stop talking about it until the end of the playoffs.
DrewDawg said:
So?
If there was no foul, then simply call who the ball went out of bounds off of. If you can't call the foul because of the replay rules, call what you can. Because saying you didn't have an angle or couldn't see looks weak.
Every replay I've seen pretty clearly shows Barnes hitting Jackson's left hand. Jackson's right hand seems to make last contact so the rule does not appear to address that situation.TheGazelle said:Does it matter that Barnes didn't hit that hand? Honest question. Put the foul aside, which everyone should agree doesn't matter for replay purposes.
Also, that's an ex post facto justification for the decision there. The refs' stated reason in their statement was that the replay was "inconclusive," which it plainly is not.
jon abbey said:
Yup. One if the worst officiated games I have seen this year.jon abbey said:That does look like a foul, live I thought Ibaka just took it away somehow.
According to Doc the officials said they were calling it off LA because they didn't have a conclusive angle to overturn, which is silly since they saw the angle we saw. If that's true they weren't making the call based on the rule TNT cited. In real time it was a make up call, the defender hitting the ball-hand rule was dug up after the fact.jon abbey said:
Actually it turns out the refs were exactly right on this call. TNT showed the rule last night on the postgame, which says that if the defender hits the hand and that causes the ball to go out of bounds, the ball still belongs to the team that was in possession even if they touched it last.
Right. That's what I've been saying.DrewDawg said:
So?
If there was no foul, then simply call who the ball went out of bounds off of. If you can't call the foul because of the replay rules, call what you can. Because saying you didn't have an angle or couldn't see looks weak.
soxhop411 said:Yup. One if the worst officiated games I have seen this year.
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ElUno20 said:I agree about getting his team to focus but youre missing a key point in that comparison. In the nba, you can significantly influence the refs through the media. It will help them get calls in game 6
Nick Kaufman said:Just to nitpick, but no matter what you think of their performance down their stretch, if they were robbed, they would have won the game and you wouldn't be calling them chokers now.
All things being equal, you don't want the refs deciding the outcomes of the game.