Other than Chase, is anything domed?
Phoenix in August is a lot different than Phoenix in February/March
Phoenix in August is a lot different than Phoenix in February/March
What do you mean by this?Phoenix in August is a lot different than Phoenix in February/March
Really?What do you mean by this?
There is no proof that incidence of the virus decreases with warmer temperatures. Some studies go so far as to say that up to 52 degrees F there is a significant change but above that incidence no longer decreases.Really?
How about 50 degrees hotter.
I don't think the reference to the weather is about the virus, it's about playing baseball (or watching baseball) outside in August in Phoenix (or surrounding areas).There is no proof that incidence of the virus decreases with warmer temperatures. Some studies go so far as to say that up to 52 degrees F there is a significant change but above that incidence no longer decreases.
bingoI don't think the reference to the weather is about the virus, it's about playing baseball (or watching baseball) outside in August in Phoenix (or surrounding areas).
Except that in August, there will not be baseball being played outside. Because it's so hot that the dome will be closed. As it will in Houston.I don't think the reference to the weather is about the virus, it's about playing baseball (or watching baseball) outside in August in Phoenix (or surrounding areas).
I understood you perfectly
Mea Culpa. I misunderstood. I read domed as "doomed"yes you did
The proto-MLB plan was to play games in the Cactus League spring training facilities, none of which have domes.Except that in August, there will not be baseball being played outside. Because it's so hot that the dome will be closed. As it will in Houston.
Which may have been the point, but didn't seem to be emphasized in the subsequent posts.
Not a bad idea.The proto-MLB plan was to play games in the Cactus League spring training facilities, none of which have domes.
I am awaiting the announcement that the Red Sox will play games on a field laid out in the courtyard of George's Island. Teams will take water taxis to/from Logan Airport and stay on docked cruise ships.
Why would the players care? I don’t think there’s a model where fans are close enough to be contagiousThe idea that any player would agree to play in a 50% capacity stadium is ludicrous in my opinion. Especially in light of these increased case numbers in states that eased restriction early.
Also, may I request the thread title be changed? This thread is much more about the status and details of a possible return than the ST being suspended.
I checked it out on Google Earth and it's exactly 305' down the RF line. CF is more like the Polo Grounds.The proto-MLB plan was to play games in the Cactus League spring training facilities, none of which have domes.
I am awaiting the announcement that the Red Sox will play games on a field laid out in the courtyard of George's Island. Teams will take water taxis to/from Logan Airport and stay on docked cruise ships.
Ha!
Verdugo will be excited.I checked it out on Google Earth and it's exactly 305' down the RF line.
There are a lot of potential negative health effects, both physical and mental, to working overnight and affecting circadian rhythms including decreased performance. Not just players, consider the effects on older managers, staff, umpires, etc.It won't work if they're actually having fans, but one idea I heard that I actually really liked, if they were going to all play in Arizona, play the games overnight, at like 10pm 2am 6am, and show them tape delayed later in the day as if they were live. If they play in an empty stadium with no media, or with a quarantine on reporting the game, results likely wouldn't get out and you wouldn't be playing in 100 degrees.
If they play a partial season, you mean? I would think that they'd pro-rate service time accrual. Normally a full season is 180 service days. If the season ends up being 60 days, I would think each day would equate to three service days.Anyone know how service time works here?
Is it the fact that it's actually night, or that it's a change of routine? Because there are plenty of sports where athletes travel across the world and then compete on short notice at a time that isn't anywhere near routine for them and are fine.As someone who hasn't worked a regular 9-5 schedule in 20 years, I can attest that asking players to perform at a high level at even one of those start times, let alone bouncing back and forth between 10pm/2am/6am would be a complete disaster (even in a normal season, starting game times rarely swing more than 6 hours). I've always been a late-night person, so when we started a graveyard shift, I adapted quicker than some of my coworkers, but it still took at least a month for it to become physically normal... and my job is just sitting in front of a computer. Now consider how important routine is to most professional athletes. You'd never get a single game played to the quality level of Major League Baseball and it would probably result in a sharp increase of injuries.
I get your overall point, but if you're a Rockies or Diamondbacks player, you are constantly traveling between three different time zones year after year anyhow before factoring in day and night games and early or late flights. There isn't one league wide routine.As someone who hasn't worked a regular 9-5 schedule in 20 years, I can attest that asking players to perform at a high level at even one of those start times, let alone bouncing back and forth between 10pm/2am/6am would be a complete disaster (even in a normal season, starting game times rarely swing more than 6 hours). I've always been a late-night person, so when we started a graveyard shift, I adapted quicker than some of my coworkers, but it still took at least a month for it to become physically normal... and my job is just sitting in front of a computer. Now consider how important routine is to most professional athletes. You'd never get a single game played to the quality level of Major League Baseball and it would probably result in a sharp increase of injuries.
If this is in response to me, in the suggested scenario there wouldn't be any strain on fans because the games would air at normal times for them. I question if the routine part would mean anything at all for athletes because we see thousands of athletes every year who have to totally change their time routine on a weekly basis and don't have an issue competing at a high level.Wait, you're saying that having the players play overnight isn't an issue, but are you suggesting that somehow it's a strain for the fans?
It was but full admission I misread your original post, so mea culpa on the fans part.If this is in response to me, in the suggested scenario there wouldn't be any strain on fans because the games would air at normal times for them. I question if the routine part would mean anything at all for athletes because we see thousands of athletes every year who have to totally change their time routine on a weekly basis and don't have an issue competing at a high level.
Olympians, and world cup players do it every few years. I watch a lot of rugby 7s and most months in season most teams will be flying halfway around the world to play a tournament a couple days later. Maybe there's a difference in actually playing at 2am, vs playing halfway around the world at what you're used to being 2am, but I don't buy that they couldn't adjust to the time change pretty quickly.It was but full admission I misread your original post, so mea culpa on the fans part.
As to the players, yeah, that's pretty ridiculous to expect them to be able to do that or be able to. It's one thing to fly from coast to coast and adjust a couple hours, it's quite another to ask them to become nocturnal.
I Think it’s prob longer than you think. I really can’t speak to rugby 7s, but Olympians spend weeks in the village to acclimate and games are played at all hours, not just what is locally ‘normal’. World Cup isn’t much different. Regardless, those guys have days to recover in between games or events; you’re talking about every day, while flipping your whole life upside down. Most studies show roughly 3 weeks on average to adjust to new hours, some people longer (think years there) some never do. Above and beyond that you’re now mixing and matching over what a twelve hour span. I’m not trying to be a dink but I don’t see it being at all even close to feasible or agreed upon by the players and if they did it’s be a farce.Olympians, and world cup players do it every few years. I watch a lot of rugby 7s and most months in season most teams will be flying halfway around the world to play a tournament a couple days later. Maybe there's a difference in actually playing at 2am, vs playing halfway around the world at what you're used to being 2am, but I don't buy that they couldn't adjust to the time change pretty quickly.
There is considerable anecdotal evidence against hotter temperatures stopping the spread of of SARS-Cov-2. Two of the places the virus transmission is growing fastest at the moment are Brazil and India, where temperatures are quite hot.There is no proof that incidence of the virus decreases with warmer temperatures. Some studies go so far as to say that up to 52 degrees F there is a significant change but above that incidence no longer decreases.
I've never heard that before about the Olympics. Wherever they're held, the T&F events are usually held during the daylight hours. I attended the 84 Olympics and there was a morning session that started around 10:00 am and an evening session that ended around 10:00 pm.I Think it’s prob longer than you think. I really can’t speak to rugby 7s, but Olympians spend weeks in the village to acclimate and games are played at all hours, not just what is locally ‘normal’. World Cup isn’t much different. Regardless, those guys have days to recover in between games or events; you’re talking about every day, while flipping your whole life upside down. Most studies show roughly 3 weeks on average to adjust to new hours, some people longer (think years there) some never do. Above and beyond that you’re now mixing and matching over what a twelve hour span. I’m not trying to be a dink but I don’t see it being at all even close to feasible or agreed upon by the players and if they did it’s be a farce.
Too softHanwha is the worst team in the league, but they have the best fans in the stands.
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Lol what % of Olympic athletes are wealthy? There’s a reason condoms are passed out in the welcome packages, it ain’t cause they’re dropping in for a quickie.I've never heard that before about the Olympics. Wherever they're held, the T&F events are usually held during the daylight hours. I attended the 84 Olympics and there was a morning session that started around 10:00 am and an evening session that ended around 10:00 pm.
Olympians show up weeks before the games and hang out in the Olympic village? The wealthier, more successful athletes will fly in 2-3 days before their competions and not even stay in the village.
I think that's a little strong. He is clearly a Boras mouthpiece, but I do think he has independent thoughts as well. In any event, I don't see how his most recent reports/thoughts help Boras. Everyone loses if there is a 50-game season.Never forget Heyman just posts whatever Boras tells him to.
Many of them have sponsors and do not want to risk getting whatever virus (not COVID-19) that is making the rounds in the Olympic Village. The main points the poster was making, that it takes 3 weeks to acclimate and events are held in the middle of the night, are not accurate.Lol what % of Olympic athletes are wealthy? There’s a reason condoms are passed out in the welcome packages, it ain’t cause they’re dropping in for a quickie.
The proposal includes no loss of a draft pick for SIGNING players, it includes draft pick compensation in a supplemental round for LOSING players.Joel Sherman reports owners offered 75% prorated salaries for a 76-game season AND no draft pick compensation for losing free agents next yea
Ah - thanks for the clarification. I'll edit.The proposal includes no loss of a draft pick for SIGNING players, it includes draft pick compensation in a supplemental round for LOSING players.
No, I don't know of anyone outside of this thread who has suggested this, even the neutral sites in FL/ARI ideas were abandoned long ago, I believe. If/when games are played, they will be at team's normal stadiums at the regular times for that time zone.Regardless, is that where we’re at?
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