You didn't think Irving guarding Antetokounmpo in the playoffs three years ago was out-of-the-box tactical brilliance?He isn't always hurt. His last year in Boston he played, but played horribly.
You didn't think Irving guarding Antetokounmpo in the playoffs three years ago was out-of-the-box tactical brilliance?He isn't always hurt. His last year in Boston he played, but played horribly.
I mean Harden definitely quit on them.... but wanting to leave is very understandable. If he had just played with effort buy also told the team "zero chance I am back here next year, please trade me now since it's better for both of us" I'd have applauded him.The way I look at it, Harden didn’t quit on the nets, Kyrie did. Harden quit on Kyrie’s narcisstic bullshit. Mr Chemistry strikes again. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-looked-at-kyrie-irving-like-he-had-three-heads-as-he-burned-sage-in-cleveland-per-report/amp/
I’m not really serious - of course he quit on the Nets. But I do think Kyrie’s nonsense was a “but for” cause.I mean Harden definitely quit on them.... but wanting to leave is very understandable. If he had just played with effort buy also told the team "zero chance I am back here next year, please trade me now since it's better for both of us" I'd have applauded him.
What an ass. If the Queen had balls, she would be the King.
I think pretty likely his manager or he pretty much did say that to Nets, actually. Now, on the effort part...totally with you there.I mean Harden definitely quit on them.... but wanting to leave is very understandable. If he had just played with effort buy also told the team "zero chance I am back here next year, please trade me now since it's better for both of us" I'd have applauded him.
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Seems like Kyrie still won't be playing home games soon,
Fwiw, I thought that it was highly cool that Tatum shushed the crowd and that the crowd listened.That Kyrie's comment about Boston fans being like an ex-GF waiting for a return e-mail was so immediately recognized on twitter and elsewhere as utter bullshit was delicious. Better, of course, was Tatum holding him to zero points on plays when Tatum was defending him. And his generally lackluster performance.
I only saw the clip of his telling Hauser that this has to end but if what you said actually happened that is awesome and further solidifies Tatum as the next mantle holder after Pierce, Bird, Havlicek & Russell.Fwiw, I thought that it was highly cool that Tatum shushed the crowd and that the crowd listened.
Yeah, our fans care what our players think. Tatum said that enough was enough, so the fans relented.
Here is the video:I only saw the clip of his telling Hauser that this has to end but if what you said actually happened that is awesome and further solidifies Tatum as the next mantle holder after Pierce, Bird, Havlicek & Russell.
Very nice. Leadership at its finest capped off by the hug following the game so those who still don’t get it can get it.
Nice, watching live it sure seems like the crowd agreed to sit on its hands at Tatum's request. It was a pretty impressive display, reminded my of Brady calling for quiet under center.I was there. It was one of the loudest chants I've ever heard at the Garden but it did stop quickly once people saw Tatum and Smart giving the quiet down gesture. My interpretation of it at the time was stop with the Kyrie chants vs. be quiet we're shooting free throws, and I think most of the people around me felt the same way.
Yep. That's how I felt.I only saw the clip of his telling Hauser that this has to end but if what you said actually happened that is awesome and further solidifies Tatum as the next mantle holder after Pierce, Bird, Havlicek & Russell.
Yeah the big tell is that the two guys we know who are close friends to Kyrie, Tatum and Smart, had disturbed looks on their faces while telling the crowd to be quiet…..as Jaylen stood there at the FT line soaking it all in. Lol no love lost between those two.Yep. That's how I felt.
Like Marcus is the longest-tenured and runs through a brick wall and shit, and that's important. But when your best player is elite and gets it, becomes a leader, etc., that helps a lot. He's commanding the respect of teammates, opponents, and 19K people.
It's fine that not everyone likes Kyrie. I think that Tatum was on the right path in expecting that his teammates won't encourage it. It was cool to me that he calmly put a stop to the fans doing it.Yeah the big tell is that the two guys we know who are close friends to Kyrie, Tatum and Smart, had disturbed looks on their faces while telling the crowd to be quiet…..as Jaylen stood there at the FT line soaking it all in. Lol no love lost between those two.
I always say this every time the Trade Marcus Now!!! chirps up and talks about Marcus as a “culture changer” trade chip. Guys like Marcus play that way because they have to to stay in the league. They don’t change the culture.Like Marcus is the longest-tenured and runs through a brick wall and shit, and that's important. But when your best player is elite and gets it, becomes a leader, etc., that helps a lot. He's commanding the respect of teammates, opponents, and 19K people.
Is Smart close with Kyrie? I know Tatum is for sure and I know Smart has stuck up for Kyrie but I don’t believe they’re actually close.Yeah the big tell is that the two guys we know who are close friends to Kyrie, Tatum and Smart, had disturbed looks on their faces while telling the crowd to be quiet…..as Jaylen stood there at the FT line soaking it all in. Lol no love lost between those two.
Whoa!! Everything I’ve heard is the opposite and that Kyrie is one of the most loved players in the league among his peers.Regardless, there’s enough smoke, or should I say sage, about Kyrie that I think Tatum and Smart fall pretty firmly in the minority of feelings towards KI from ex-teammates
Kyrie had some sort of leadership position with the Union, so he's popular or respected by his peersWhoa!! Everything I’ve heard is the opposite and that Kyrie is one of the most loved players in the league among his peers.
I went to vetnef on vacation once. Rained like crazy.- I know Tatum and Kyrie are close, I mentioned that in my original post so it’s not surprising that they vacation tovetnef
You have to remember to book into southern vetnef - the rainy season in the north is just crazy.I went to vetnef on vacation once. Rained like crazy.
Tatum and Kyrie also share the Duke connection, which isn't nothing.You're pretty off-base there. Lebron and Jaylen are in the minority.
Kyrie is well liked by NBA players and ex teammates. Tatum vacations with him in the off-season.
Ainge had been after Durant since his days at U. of Texas. You are correct in that everyone knew Kyrie and Durant were looking to team up but are discounting that arguably the ONLY reason that Ainge did the Kyrie deal in the first place was to lure Durant to Boston so they could team up here.Kyrie had some sort of leadership position with the Union, so he's popular or respected by his peers
Booing Kyrie is fun for the fans at the game, but they should also boo Danny. The entire League knew Kyrie/Durant were teaming up (it was even caught on film at the All-Star game).
After whiffing on AD, he had a dysfunctional group that bickered and underperformed throughout the season. Danny should have been proactive and traded Irving. Instead, DAR sat there like a potted plant, watched Irving, MaMo, Rozier, Horford walk out the door. Then compounded that by MAXing Kemba and a handful of other crappy moves.
I went to vetnef on vacation once. Rained like crazy.
I freakin love this board sometimes!You have to remember to book into southern vetnef - the rainy season in the north is just crazy.
Great point, next time I go to a game and Ainge walks on the court I'll forget about the fact that he built a championship team and drafted 4 of our excellent starting 5 and boo him because he made some bad moves at the end of his tenure (or like, didn't get anything for Marcus Morris? What a loss).Kyrie had some sort of leadership position with the Union, so he's popular or respected by his peers
Booing Kyrie is fun for the fans at the game, but they should also boo Danny. The entire League knew Kyrie/Durant were teaming up (it was even caught on film at the All-Star game).
After whiffing on AD, he had a dysfunctional group that bickered and underperformed throughout the season. Danny should have been proactive and traded Irving. Instead, DAR sat there like a potted plant, watched Irving, MaMo, Rozier, Horford walk out the door. Then compounded that by MAXing Kemba and a handful of other crappy moves.
And that "bickering, underperforming team" made it to the Eastern Conference Finals one year. And like you said, four out of our starting 5 now were Ainge draft picks.Great point, next time I go to a game and Ainge walks on the court I'll forget about the fact that he built a championship team and drafted 4 of our excellent starting 5 and boo him because he made some bad moves at the end of his tenure (or like, didn't get anything for Marcus Morris? What a loss).
Or I could just boo Kyrie which seems much more straightforward since he doesn't seem to like us much either.
Don't forget he let Max Struss go to Miami instead of keeping him here. It's that kind of action that simply cannot be forgiven.Great point, next time I go to a game and Ainge walks on the court I'll forget about the fact that he built a championship team and drafted 4 of our excellent starting 5 and boo him because he made some bad moves at the end of his tenure (or like, didn't get anything for Marcus Morris? What a loss).
Or I could just boo Kyrie which seems much more straightforward since he doesn't seem to like us much either.
Nice posting.... but I know you can do betterdespite what some dipshit message board poster says
Obviously, nobody is going to boo Danny.Great point, next time I go to a game and Ainge walks on the court I'll forget about the fact that he built a championship team and drafted 4 of our excellent starting 5 and boo him because he made some bad moves at the end of his tenure (or like, didn't get anything for Marcus Morris? What a loss).
Or I could just boo Kyrie which seems much more straightforward since he doesn't seem to like us much either.
No argument with any of this.Nice posting.... but I know you can do better
The non-bickering youngsters made it to the ECF Finals VS
The Kyrie-led group the next season bickered, underperformed the entire season which led to a Gentlemen's Sweep by the Bucks
The Kyrexit was pretty well telegraphed by December. Every beat & national NBA reporter was aware and reporting it. Kyrie was clearly unhappy, while Ky was also being a prick to Jaylen Brown/others the entire season.
What hindsight do you speak of? Because the face-saving Kemba signing worked out for ~3months. Danny desperately tried to cut bait on him the following summer.
The point is, all the Kyrie whining/booing could have been resolved if Danny had turned him around for assets once he knew he was gone and saw the team wasn't jelling. He had a group that made a fantastic run the previous season. One of Danny's self-confessed strengths was being cold/calculating (ie the IT/Kyrie trade to begin with) and getting value from assets. He failed that season, and the following 2 seasons. It's why he left and took another job with the Jazz a few months later. Brad has done a fantastic job quickly cleaning up some of those messes.
Kyrie, an amazing talent, is a clown with plenty of issues. We gladly rip him around here, but I'm pretty ready to move on since the current edition of the C's is ready to contend for numerous years now. It would be nice if the Garden just went silent on Ky and didn't give him any oxygen (the exit was 3 seasons ago this summer). At least that's how team leaders like Tatum and Smart feel.
It's alright to be critical of some of the moves Danny made/didn't make.
Oh yea, we learned a ton after Kyrexit.No argument with any of this.
That said, lex is right also. At that point, what we knew for sure about Kyrie, I think that it would have looked like we were punting on the season. It would have been pretty damn unpopular.
To be fair, there were people here calling for it at the time, some of the folks in this thread. But I can't be the only one who learned a lot post-Kyrexit.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. The Morris Brothers' antics can be tiresome, but it's hard to question Marcus' competitive drive and toughness, two qualities the C's lacked most of last season and for the first part of this one.Marcus Morris was addition by subtraction.