This thread had at least brought back two Yiddish words, and both are synonyms for penis iirc.From a strictly Pat's fan perspective, I'm not realistically expecting anything too damaging resulting from a misdemeanor, save a few tired jokes.
However, I'm not excited about any crap like this that might result in any loss of power -no matter how minor - for the ownership. How stupid.
Putz.
I wonder why all the names wouldn't be released at once. These are all past acts, if they're ready to announce one, wonder why they didn't announce all of them.@sportsrapport
Adam Schefter just said on SportsCenter that a source told him Kraft is "not the biggest name" caught up in this sting. ...............
12:59 PM - 22 Feb 2019
YFBSKid Rock has a place in Jupiter.
He better be on the list or I'm throwing out my CDs.
Might be significantly more than a handy.Nothing up at the Palm Beach County clerk of court's website yet.
It'll be interesting, and they're always amusing reading. I think my favorite BS typo in a prostitution sting affidavit was: Based on my training and experience, I know that "manual manipulation of the male genitals" is a term used to refer to a "hand job."
Could be from different locations in different counties?I wonder why all the names wouldn't be released at once. These are all past acts, if they're ready to announce one, wonder why they didn't announce all of them.
This is the issue for me. Obviously, Irsay is recent precedent of the league doing absolutely nothing when an NFL owner gets busted doing something illegal. But that was several years ago, didn’t involve women and predated the #MeToo era. And perhaps most importantly, no other owners had any reason to be jealous of Jim Fucking Irsay.Unless, of course, it's being provided by a woman forced into doing so by those who brought her into the country illegally.
The sex act itself is not the issue here
Irsay was suspended for 6 games and fined $500,000This is the issue for me. Obviously, Irsay is recent precedent of the league doing absolutely nothing when an NFL owner gets busted doing something illegal. But that was several years ago, didn’t involve women and predated the #MeToo era. And perhaps most importantly, no other owners had any reason to be jealous of Jim Fucking Irsay.
If Kraft was part of a sex trafficking ring in which he knew or should’ve known that women were being forced into sexual slavery, he is fucked as an NFL owner.
Likely not. I'm saying what the theory is about people who say that if prostitution is legalized, this issue might go away.It's a quaint notion, but it will not stop trafficking of underaged girls and boys who would be forced to perform sex acts
His long game vanished years ago.Tiger Woods has an, ah, history, lives in Jupiter and would qualify as a bigger name than Kraft.
I hear that. I'm wearing out the unpost button over here.Likely not. I'm saying what the theory is about people who say that if prostitution is legalized, this issue might go away.
And in this case, are we speaking of underaged girls? (WOW, that's not a sentence I really ever thought I'd type)
He does...how about Limbaugh?Doesn’t BB have a winter home in Jupiter? Holding my breath.
Let's keep the politics out of this thread. I want my sex threads clean.29 min drive to Mar-a-Largo, just sayin'
It'd almost be easier to list who doesn't have a place within 30 minutes of this spa. And we only need the 30 minute window to include Palm Beach. 15 minutes would cover north and west easily.Doesn’t BB have a winter home in Jupiter? Holding my breath.
Yeah, let's stay away from politics in this thread.Let's keep the politics out of this thread. I want my sex threads clean.
In any number of police-type dramas there seems to be an episode involving wealthy people bidding on such things.This is the issue for me. Obviously, Irsay is recent precedent of the league doing absolutely nothing when an NFL owner gets busted doing something illegal. But that was several years ago, didn’t involve women and predated the #MeToo era. And perhaps most importantly, no other owners had any reason to be jealous of Jim Fucking Irsay.
If Kraft was part of a sex trafficking ring in which he knew or should’ve known that women were being forced into sexual slavery, he is fucked as an NFL owner.
It would make people more likely to inform on the people committing those illegal acts if they themselves were not in danger of being charged with a crime for consensual adult prostitution.It's a quaint notion, but it will not stop trafficking of underaged girls and boys who would be forced to perform sex acts
Wouldn't a young, exploited, and fearful sex worker hoping for any way out of a situation be likely to actually open the door for a LEO and show them around for the best place to put a camera to catch the criminal act that might lead to their "employer" getting shut down?Jupiter is a nice area. Cardinals and Marlins play in the ballpark there. One of the best school system in Florida, too.
That said, if workers were living there, how did the cameras get installed there without them knowing?
"Last week, officers obtained a warrant to put surveillance cameras in the spa. Over a four-day period, officers gathered video of 26 men paying for and engaging in sex acts at the spa."
Yep, that area is crawling with famous people, half the PGA tour for starters. Could be some much bigger names to come.It'd almost be easier to list who doesn't have a place within 30 minutes of this spa. And we only need the 30 minute window to include Palm Beach. 15 minutes would cover north and west easily.
Off the top of my head: Jack Welch, Joe Namath, Greg Norman might all be considered bigger than RK. (in addition to anyone else listed in this thread)
I don’t know how accurate that is, but I do wonder why a billionaire is getting in his car and driving to a mall for a bj unless there’s something there he can’t just order to his house.If it was run by Chinese or East Asian owners, possible the place had underage girls. If it was a Korean joint, most likely not. I bet on the latter, as the truly seedy joints don't have open signs on a strip mall.
I heard plenty of stories from my Korean lawyer/prosecutor friends from NYC and assuming same may be true for Florida.
All true, which is why he had someone drive him t a shitty strip mall.I don’t know how accurate that is, but I do wonder why a billionaire is getting in his car and driving to a mall for a bj unless there’s something there he can’t just order to his house.
Of course that's possible, but we don't know what passes for titillation for Kraft, Woods, et al. Tiger could have ordered room service too, but preferred the Waffle House parking lot. There's no explaining taste.I don’t know how accurate that is, but I do wonder why a billionaire is getting in his car and driving to a mall for a bj unless there’s something there he can’t just order to his house.
Also known as the Uncle Leo defense...………...He needs to use the old guy defense. 'I am old, I was confused, I didn't know what was going on.'
It’s a lot more anonymous for him to go to a strip mall joint with a hat and sunglasses on filled with immigrants than to hire someone to his gated community houseI don’t know how accurate that is, but I do wonder why a billionaire is getting in his car and driving to a mall for a bj unless there’s something there he can’t just order to his house.
Why do rich people shoplift? Who knows why Kraft went there, but it could be that he got a thrill out of the sleazy and illicit nature of it that he couldn’t get out of some discreet, high-end call girl.I don’t know how accurate that is, but I do wonder why a billionaire is getting in his car and driving to a mall for a bj unless there’s something there he can’t just order to his house.
There are in calls, and it’s not like high end prostitutes come over wearing fishnets, big hoop earrings and driving an old Volkswagen.It’s a lot more anonymous for him to go to a strip mall joint with a hat and sunglasses on filled with immigrants than to hire someone to his gated community house
Not to turn this into SVU... but could LE just watch underage and/or trafficked girls be abused for 4 days? Wouldn't they have to intercede?Wouldn't a young, exploited, and fearful sex worker hoping for any way out of a situation be likely to actually open the door for a LEO and show them around for the best place to put a camera to catch the criminal act that might lead to their "employer" getting shut down?
Well the Uncle Leo defense also includes “I thought I paid for it!” So I’m guess Kraft is not going with that version, at least.Also known as the Uncle Leo defense...………...
If you extend it out to Wellington, it could get real ugly.Yep, that area is crawling with famous people, half the PGA tour for starters. Could be some much bigger names to come.
I mentioned pages back: he had to know that there is no way, no how he goes unrecognized in that area. Maybe for the rush of possibly being seen?I don’t know how accurate that is, but I do wonder why a billionaire is getting in his car and driving to a mall for a bj unless there’s something there he can’t just order to his house.
It may not be Worth Ave or City Place, but it sure isn't Riviera Beach or Fort Pierce, either.All true, which is why he had someone drive him t a shitty strip mall.
Everyone knows Chinese take-out sucks in Jupiter.I don’t know how accurate that is, but I do wonder why a billionaire is getting in his car and driving to a mall for a bj unless there’s something there he can’t just order to his house.
Not from the footage I've seen...…..There are in calls, and it’s not like high end prostitutes come over wearing fishnets, big hoop earrings and driving an old Volkswagen.
Sounds like you're pretty familiar with the area, I live about an hour south of Jupiter and work In Boca Raton, about 45 minutes south. Over the years I have bumped into more famous people than I could even list, especially while working retail in college. There are endless possibilities here.If you extend it out to Wellington, it could get real ugly.
I mentioned pages back: he had to know that there is no way, no how he goes unrecognized in that area. Maybe for the rush of possibly being seen?
It may not be Worth Ave or City Place, but it sure isn't Riviera Beach or Fort Pierce, either.
Exactly. It's been a great way to kill half my Friday, and counting.When I first got wind of this story, I was annoyed and upset.
Now after reading through this thread, I'm in hysterics and have completely forgotten why I was upset.
I love all of you guys unconditionally, this thread should be bronzed.
Carry on.