June NHL News Thread
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damn, I did not know that rule. That fucking sucks, because they desperately need to buy him outcshea said:
Well, it raises the probability that EJ gets his wish and they go with a kid line for the 4th line. Unfortunately means our top guys will likely be playing more PK time but c'est la vie.
couple notes on twitter that Scott Burnside of ESPN has been elevated to President of the NHLWA (PHWA? Whatever the writer's association is).
cshea said:
Must feel like he hit the lottery. Will collect plenty in buyout, gets out of Buffalo and someone will pay him again next week. Thank you Darcy Reiger.
Yeah, seriously. What a day for Christian Ehrhoff. He'll now be collecting a paycheck from the Buffalo Sabres through 2028. Nice little retirement plan. Not to mention he suddenly became the best defensemen on the market this year and will cash in big time over the next week or so.
Hard to believe they couldn't trade him. The cap hit wasn't that bad and as I recall the deal was pretty heavily frontloaded. Without looking it up (I doubt my phone could handle Capgeek) I'm going to guess he had a NMC and made it clear he wouldn't waive for anyone, kinda like Danny Briere. But even then, he's a good player, I'd have just kept him.
The big problem was the cap-recapture penalty if Ehrhoff retired early. Luongo is the only one of those contracts who has actually moved, and he is a bit of a unique circumstance. It's a big issue for teams with those pre-lockout back diving deals.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 45s
TB has traded Sam Gagner to PHX, I mean Arizona. In any case, Gagner is a Coyote. #TSN
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 2m
PHX gave up a draft pick to TB for Sam Gagner and B.J. Crombeen. TB clearing salary cap room.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 43s
TB gets 6th round pick in 2015 from AZ for Gagner and Crombeen. #TSN
TB has traded Sam Gagner to PHX, I mean Arizona. In any case, Gagner is a Coyote. #TSN
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 2m
PHX gave up a draft pick to TB for Sam Gagner and B.J. Crombeen. TB clearing salary cap room.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 43s
TB gets 6th round pick in 2015 from AZ for Gagner and Crombeen. #TSN
My wild-ass guess is that he's clearing room for Niskanen and one of the big-ticket forwards (Vanek or Stastny).MoGator71 said:
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 6m
MTL acquires P.A Parenteau from COL. I believe Daniel Briere is headed to COL in return.
MTL acquires P.A Parenteau from COL. I believe Daniel Briere is headed to COL in return.
TheShynessClinic said:
Absolutely. They trade for a guy 5 years younger than the washed up Briere and get a draft pick from Colorado as well.
It's a cap dump for Colorado. They've been trying to move Parenteau for months.
I don't think it's a huge win for Montreal. Briere is clearly on the downswing, but Parenteau's a negative possession player who is more of a playmaker than a scorer. He also strikes me as a player who needs to be in a top 6 role surrounded by talent to be effective. If we view this as Parenteau in, Vanek out, that's a downgrade for Montreal IMO.
Edit: by cap dump, I mean Colorado gets out of the last year on Parenteau's deal. Salaries close to a wash for this season.
I don't think it's a huge win for Montreal. Briere is clearly on the downswing, but Parenteau's a negative possession player who is more of a playmaker than a scorer. He also strikes me as a player who needs to be in a top 6 role surrounded by talent to be effective. If we view this as Parenteau in, Vanek out, that's a downgrade for Montreal IMO.
Edit: by cap dump, I mean Colorado gets out of the last year on Parenteau's deal. Salaries close to a wash for this season.
Well, I think if you want to bring Vanek into it, you need to specify who is replacing Briere for Montreal and measure it as Vanek + Briere vs. Parenteau + Player X.
Also, to be fair to Parenteau, Vanek is an even worse possession player than he is (47% CF vs. ~50% CF) and Vanek's GF% was well outpaced by his CF% last season, so he might be due for a production slip. Additionally, Parenteau was a better possession player relative to his teammates (+3.8%) than Vanek was relative to his (-1.1%).
Also, to be fair to Parenteau, Vanek is an even worse possession player than he is (47% CF vs. ~50% CF) and Vanek's GF% was well outpaced by his CF% last season, so he might be due for a production slip. Additionally, Parenteau was a better possession player relative to his teammates (+3.8%) than Vanek was relative to his (-1.1%).
This is not true. Parenteau was a (slightly) negative possession player because Colorado sucked at possession. But relative to his team he was a good possesson player. His CF% relative to his team was +3.7%, +1.7% and +3.5% the last three regular seasons.cshea said:
Briere has worse possession numbers both in raw numbers and relative to his team.
http://www.extraskater.com/team/colorado-avalanche/2013#player-usage-chart
A lot of red on there, and Parenteau was neutral even though he wasn't particularly sheltered.
http://m.ottawasun.com/2014/07/02/philadelphia-flyers-star-claude-giroux-arrested-in-ottawa
Oh joy. This is what you like to read about the day after a billion-dollar contract extension kicks in.
Oh joy. This is what you like to read about the day after a billion-dollar contract extension kicks in.
