In this one? No. But he is the boy that cried wolf. So when it’s deserved, still not much sympathy from those of us that watch him complain about stuff that happens to ever team every week.
Of course, Skipp had a challenge earlier in the game that was worse than what got Jones sent off today, so he shouldn't have been there to get kicked.
My point is Klopp complains all the time. Believe it or not, ref decisions suck for all teams and fans all the time. If you ask other teams’ fans they’ll tell you Man U and Liverpool actually get much better treatment from the refs of anything (I actually think that only applies to Man U personally).
It was shitty for us neutrals on a game that we had circled as a big weekend event. So, kind of a bummer that Klopp has a cried wolf problem, because the officiating spoiled a compelling top of the table game,
Maybe he complains all the time because he has a point?
Every single Premier League manager whines after every single game.
Somebody added that to the wiki page in the last 10-15 minutes. It's a joke.
Hooper wasn’t the problem (and I suspect a Liverpool fan edited that entry already). Darren England showed Hooper a still shot of what looked egregious from Jones to set the stage for the first VAR review. He then failed to perform a review of a legitimate goal. I’m beyond caring what I sound like here- those are the actions of a man or organization with agenda. The Gomez penalty shout is another whatever- goes either way- but looks worse when stacked up with the others.
Here’s where I completely agree with you (I don’t think there’s an agenda. On a Spurs message board I go on every week those guys think anti-Semitism is the reason spurs don’t get calls. Almost always it’s incompetency and nothing else): VAR in the PL is broken at this point. It needs to be thrown out and re-thought.
Not sure if this is sarcasm, but winning that game was one of the least “spursy” things.
It doesn't need to be a conspiracy, it could just be me calling out utter incompetence.
It really is a lack of quality in the officiating. The first yellow to Jota appears to have been no contact. If you look at how far Hooper is away, he’d have no idea. He’s 30 yards away and he was out of position all game to make the correct calls. He was in the way of the ball an alarming amount of time as well.
Well, I'm thinking least Spursy would be a straight goal - I'd guess win by OG vs 9 would be lesser in the Pyramid of Spursiness
Trying to watch via Peacock gives you the same result
Seriously so when he realizes they aren’t at midfield kicking off, he just shuts up?
This. When the VAR official sees the ball being spotted for a Spurs free kick…he just decides, “huh, weird that.”
Is this a real screen capture? I mean, how is this possible? Why wasn’t it corrected in game, even after halftime?
What makes the Jones red worse in my mind is how the argument was made. This is the frame England froze on at the beginning of the review. It looks really bad:
My main takeaway is that VAR in England is like what Deep Throat said about Watergate: The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand. If the on-field ref and VAR ref don't even have a protocol where Step 1 is communicate what the call on the field is that needs to be reviewed, then the whole thing is doomed from the start. Someone outside the PMGOL chain of command needs to rebuild the process from the ground up, because these clowns have no idea what they're doing.
Is almost as insane. Liverpool isn't the first team to have a goal wrongly called off for offsides. It's happened hundreds and hundreds of times.
