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1. Bill Belichick, because the Patriots football operation is an unmitigated disaster. He should not be back next year. The talent of the field is bad, the team discipline is bad, if this is the best he can do it is time for him to pack it in.
2. Mac Jones, who played decent in some parts of the game but ruined himself with a terrible interception.
3. Davante Parker, because Mac made one absolutely great clutch throw today - a deep ball from pinned deep in his own territory that landed right in Parker's hands - and he dropped it. If he makes the catch - the exact type of catch he is supposed to be good at - the Pats are in Raider terrory with a chance to get into FG range and win.
 

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Mac for throwing one of the single worst passes I have ever had the misfortune of seeing at any level of football.

The O-Line, for once again being routinely overwhelmed.

Parker, because while other receivers made great catches on terrible balls, he couldn't catch a must have ball right on his fucking hands.
 

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Parker gets about 90% of the Goat. He makes that catch and the Pats might be walking off the field with a miracle win.
 

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Mac for throwing one of the single worst passes I have ever had the misfortune of seeing at any level of football.

The O-Line, for once again being routinely overwhelmed.

Parker, because while other receivers made great catches on terrible balls, he couldn't catch a must have ball right on his fucking hands.
This sums it up.
 

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There was no point in suiting up a RT today. Lowe might as well have not been there. Every friggin' replay he barely touched Crosby. I know Crosby is outstanding, but holy shit. I can't recall ever seeing anything like that, just no resistance at all.
 

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1. Bill Belichick, because the Patriots football operation is an unmitigated disaster. He should not be back next year. The talent of the field is bad, the team discipline is bad, if this is the best he can do it is time for him to pack it in.
The color guy on the national radio broadcast said, "I know this is sacrilege, but this is not a well-coached team."
 

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This is all Parker and the oline. Other than pick Mac looked ok to solid
Must be so good to be an NFL QB and get pats on the head after games in which you throw one of the worst picks of the season, have a dumb delay of game and then an oblivious sack to end the game. Every time Mac doesn't completely implode people walk on eggshells to talk about him. Yeah, I know Parker dropped a good ball, the overall performance was below average even if you take away one of the most horrific interceptions you'll see above Division III ball.
 

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Bill the GM. This offense is absolute and compete garbage. Not a single above average player anywhere on the field. I don’t know how that’s even possible.
 

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The rg and rt are two of the worst OL players I've ever seen.

Continually stunned at how the Pats lost Thuney to FA and Mason in a trade and all they got for it was Kevin Harris.
 

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The color guy on the national radio broadcast said, "I know this is sacrilege, but this is not a well-coached team."
Defense is well coached. The offense had a much smaller margin for error and with the OL injuries and MAc's amazing adventures they are in trouble. They cant put points on the board via the air and cannot run it well.
 

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The rg and rt are two of the worst OL players I've ever seen.

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Reading that makes me ill
 

Eddie Jurak

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The color guy on the national radio broadcast said, "I know this is sacrilege, but this is not a well-coached team."
It isn't a well built team or a well coached team. And, as far as we can tell, BB and his, if this term even applies, brain trust... had no idea.
 

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Bill the GM. This offense is absolute and compete garbage. Not a single above average player anywhere on the field. I don’t know how that’s even possible.
The offense is terrible. But they have multiple above average players on the offensive side of the ball – Stevenson, Bourne, Henry. Hell, even Zeke is playing above average. They aren’t playing well together however.
 

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BB eats this one again. You can't compete if you can't score points.

He carries these years along with all of those wins that he can't seem to top. The rest of the NFL thinks it was all Brady and I'm out of ammo. His legacy will not be what it could be.
 

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The entire offense. 3 points in the first half isn’t going to cut it. Got close in the second half when they had to go with Brian Hoyer at Quarterback.
 

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1. Bill Belichick, because the Patriots football operation is an unmitigated disaster. He should not be back next year. The talent of the field is bad, the team discipline is bad, if this is the best he can do it is time for him to pack it in
The Parker drop finally broke me. The talent on this O is putrid and that’s all on Bill. I can’t believe I’m writing this but I think he’s gotta go.
 

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The offense is terrible. But they have multiple above average players on the offensive side of the ball – Stevenson, Bourne, Henry. Hell, even Zeke is playing above average. They aren’t playing well together however.
I firmly disagree. Those are all JAGs. I mean someone has to catch the ball and run the ball. None of them are plus players.
 

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1. Penalties - I just don't get all the penalties this year! Same discipline-emphacizing coach in BB
2. OL
3. Little pash rush - and no sacks - without Judon
 

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The rg and rt are two of the worst OL players I've ever seen.

Continually stunned at how the Pats lost Thuney to FA and Mason in a trade and all they got for it was Kevin Harris.
Bill didn’t want to pay them. A common theme.
 

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The offense is terrible. But they have multiple above average players on the offensive side of the ball – Stevenson, Bourne, Henry. Hell, even Zeke is playing above average. They aren’t playing well together however.
Completely disagree that any of those guys are above average. None of them are starting in their current positions on more than half of the teams in the NFL. None of them.
 

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I firmly disagree. Those are all JAGs. I mean someone has to catch the ball and run the ball. None of them are plus players.
You said above average. Stevenson was being discussed as one of the best runners in the league last year. And now he’s just a JAG?

I get that we are not used to seeing this game perform so badly. But it’s a lot more about how they are playing together—and yes, the coaching—than it is their talent level. As we saw the first two weeks, this team has the talent to hang with some of the better teams in the NFL
 

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You said above average. Stevenson was being discussed as one of the best runners in the league last year. And now he’s just a JAG?

I get that we are not used to seeing this game perform so badly. But it’s a lot more about how they are playing together—and yes, the coaching—than it is their talent level. As we saw the first two weeks, this team has the talent to hang with some of the better teams in the NFL
He got worse. Just like every other offensive player in this organization.
 

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You said above average. Stevenson was being discussed as one of the best runners in the league last year. And now he’s just a JAG?

I get that we are not used to seeing this game perform so badly. But it’s a lot more about how they are playing together—and yes, the coaching—than it is their talent level. As we saw the first two weeks, this team has the talent to hang with some of the better teams in the NFL
Did you see the holes that Rham had on the second to last drive? An above average NFL RB goes for 20+ yards on those. He got 7-8. His play has clearly slipped a ton from last year. It happens.

I’m all for reassessing my takes on this board, but not here. The O is straight garbage and it’s because they have zero difference makers anywhere on the field.
 

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Did you see the holes that Rham had on the second to last drive? An above average NFL RB goes for 20+ yards on those. He got 7-8. His play has clearly slipped a ton from last year. It happens.
I was surprised it was Rham and not Zeke down the stretch.

Are there any good teams that need a RB? I feel like Zeke should be wortha pick - he looked good today.
 

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Did you see the holes that Rham had on the second to last drive? An above average NFL RB goes for 20+ yards on those. He got 7-8. His play has clearly slipped a ton from last year. It happens.

I’m all for reassessing my takes on this board, but not here. The O is straight garbage and it’s because they have zero difference makers anywhere on the field.
Dude ran a 4.64 at his pro day (didn't run it at the combine)..

I'd be surprised if he's even that fast anymore.

Guys like Mostert and Achane and Kamara and CMC and Breece Hall and Bijan Robinson and on and on and on are going on house calls with some of those holes. The 16 yard run that he got hurt on was his longest fucking run of the year.
 

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Dude ran a 4.64 at his pro day (didn't run it at the combine)..

I'd be surprised if he's even that fast anymore.

Guys like Mostert and Achane and Kamara and CMC and Breece Hall and Bijan Robinson and on and on and on are going on house calls with some of those holes. The 16 yard run that he got hurt on was his longest fucking run of the year.
Typical GM Bill. Had a guy in Harris who had a little burst. Let him go, because that’s what we do, and didn’t replace him with anyone who has even the slightest hint of speed. It’s comical.
 

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I mean, besides literally everyone except maybe Peppers…

1. Parker. I mean, come on. That’s not even a contested ball that you’d actually have to work to try to bring in.
2. Lowe. I swear he didn’t even touch Crosby half the time. Put a red alternate jersey on him and he’s ready to go out for Halloween in his matador costume…
 

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Other than the pick? I’d have cut him after that pick. That’s a throw an NFL QB cannot make.

Mac stinks, he was once again terrible today. The Parker drop will overshadow that but make no mistake, he was awful.
Do you feel the same way about Desmond Ridder, Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Lamar, Tannehill, Minshew, Purdy, Fields, PJ Walker and on and on and on...All of whom made absolutely fucking horrendous passes this week to defenders?
 

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Did anyone break a tackle in this game? The lack of firepower on offense is unbearable. They took 17 plays to go 75 yards.
 

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Do you feel the same way about Desmond Ridder, Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Lamar, Tannehill, Minshew, Purdy, Fields, PJ Walker and on and on and on...All of whom made absolutely fucking horrendous passes this week to defenders?
Mac’s pick is the latest in a long string of absolutely indefensible decisions and theirs and it’s time to dump him. He’s never going to imprint and he never learns a fucking thing.
 

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Wow. The drop was bad enough, but this...
View: https://twitter.com/DougKyed/status/1713700433393484280?s=20

Doug Kyed: Patriots WR DeVante Parker said he thought he got his "fingertips" on Mac Jones' deep pass on the final drive.

Reminder:
View: https://twitter.com/henrycmckenna/status/1713692223684898959?s=20

Henry McKenna: Absolutely perfect pass from Mac Jones. Drop from DeVante Parker.

What a tool.
Parker had 3 targets today. He made 1 catch for 7 yards. The other 2 were the massive drop, and a third down conversion that Mac threw to him, in which he fucking stopped running in the middle of the route, which I think led to him being benched until the end of the game.

And again, this guy is supposedly our #1 receiver? The guy who is supposed to step up when JuJu and Douglas (lol) are inactive? Fuck me.