Game 3: Everything is le Awesome
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They COULD, but let's be real here.....our chances greatly increase with a win Thursday. I'm not so confident it'll come as they are just not finishing their chances over a long period of time. It took a miracle not to be down 0-3 for Christ sakes. They've really got to get their shit together and start finishing in front of the net and not completely fucking up on defense.Ed Hillel said:
Don't post that much, and usually don't get too heated during games. Subban popping the net off with his shoulder so blatantly and the following no-call from the ref's had me screaming. I just had to come here to vent. Such total bullshit. Hope they respond like they did in Game 2 of the Detroit series. We need a good game like that.
Of course I do. If they lose Game 4, I don't think they're winning the series so to me yes it is must win.TheShynessClinic said:
It's not even remotely scummy and is actually a pretty fucking brilliant play. He sold it perfectly too. It sucks but it was well executed only thing that infuriated me is the delay in blowing it dead. It wasn't in the top 5 of non-calls in the last 5 mins.Andrew said:
Gotta be better on their chances and just cannot have the mental lapses defensively. Also need the first line to show up big time.
Sorry, can't just turn it on and off, can't get involved in petty stuff (not an issue tonight, of course). I think we'd see a more consistent, full-game effort vs. a different team.
How soon can Thursday get here? Fuck these guys and their stupid soccer chant. Bs are not losing another game to them.
I'm just being honest. They need to be better than this and I think we can all agree on that.TheShynessClinic said:
What does this have to do with respect?Harry Hooper said:
Also, and people forget this all the fucking time, the other team is also trying to win.
The Four Peters said:
Explain to me how it is not even remotely scummy, then. Your opponent is playing hockey and puts themselves into a last few seconds chance and you do something not related to hockey to stop them. My personal definition of scummy is exactly that. It's Arroyo getting you to ground out and then you slapping the ball out of his hand.
Your hockey knowledge is like 1,000x more than mine, so I cede to you if that's how it just is, but it sure seems like bullshit to me.
Ed Hillel said:
Less than two minutes it is a penalty shot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evGGuviPB7s
If wiki is right its either a full 2 minute penalty or a penalty shot for the last player to shoot, so with 15 seconds left it would have been a penalty shot for whichever B was last to shoot (not sure if that's shot attempt shot on goal or whatever)Ed Hillel said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_of_game_%28ice_hockey%29
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Overall, their play has been fine. They've controlled possession in all 3 games. The problems are:Harry Hooper said:
1. They can't get a lead. They can't be playing catch-up for 50 minutes a night, it wears you out and leaves you little room for error.
2. Special teams. Not much of a factor tonight, but the Bruins are 0-fer on the PP and gave up 4 PP goals to Montreal in the first 2 games.
3. Lack of finish. They're dominating possession, but can't score.
4. Every Bruin mistake is winding up in the back of their net. They gave up very few scoring chances tonight, but Montreal went 2-2 on breakaways so the mistakes are getting magnified.
The scale should tip towards the Bruins at some point. Problem is we're dealing with a small sample size where anything can happen.
If by reason of insufficient time in the regular playing time or by reason of penalties already imposed, the minor penalty assessed to a player for deliberately displacing his own goal post cannot be served in its entirety within the regular playing time of the game or at any time in overtime, a penalty shot shall be awarded against the offending team.
And the difference was the fucking cherrypicked goal.
I'm expecting a massive regression to the mean Thursday night. The Bruins carry the play for the majority of the game, and have only been rewarded for it in the 3rd period. Meanwhile Vanek hitting the crossbar tonight was about the only golden scoring chance the Habs didn't capitalize on, and Dale fucking Weise gets rewarded for not playing defense. Fuck off.
I'm expecting a massive regression to the mean Thursday night. The Bruins carry the play for the majority of the game, and have only been rewarded for it in the 3rd period. Meanwhile Vanek hitting the crossbar tonight was about the only golden scoring chance the Habs didn't capitalize on, and Dale fucking Weise gets rewarded for not playing defense. Fuck off.
If they called a penalty shot there I'm not sure the official lives to eat breakfast. That would have been awesome.NortheasternPJ said:
Bruins win game 4 and 5 by the same score of 4-2 both times, after that I can't see that far into the future.
Is Corey Pooper better from his practice injury a few weeks ago? Put him in for Crapron and Shitzaros at the same time.BoSoxFink said:
Moen hit was way late, puck was long gone. If Lucic is going to play this poorly the least he can do is tune up a Canadien or two. Those guys are obviously not getting called for anything and it's made them dangerously bold—they're playing just over the line and the refs will have no one to blame but themselves when someone—from either side—gets hurt by a cheap play. They're letting Montreal get away with a whole lot. The Subban net hijinks was really bad, and the non-call on Soderberg being held at the blue line was quite simply unacceptable at this level.
FTR, I expect the B's to win the next one 4-2, but generally not that close as Habs tally one late.
Guys, they obviously didn't rule that the net was pushed off on purpose. It certainly looked like it to us, but we are a little biased. Subban definitely made it look like it was just run into even though I think we all know it was on purpose.
We can say they are outplaying them all we want, but the scoreboard is all that matters. This series has come down to finishing chances when each team has the opportunities. Montreal is making the most of theirs and Boston is not. We can say "regression to the mean" or "they'll even out" as much as we want but we can't just expect it will happen. Our best players are not playing well and that needs to change. The KIL line has done nothing in 3 games. It's absolutely frustrating at this point. Can the series turn on a dime? Of course it can. It all starts with Thursday night.
We can say they are outplaying them all we want, but the scoreboard is all that matters. This series has come down to finishing chances when each team has the opportunities. Montreal is making the most of theirs and Boston is not. We can say "regression to the mean" or "they'll even out" as much as we want but we can't just expect it will happen. Our best players are not playing well and that needs to change. The KIL line has done nothing in 3 games. It's absolutely frustrating at this point. Can the series turn on a dime? Of course it can. It all starts with Thursday night.
It's a scummy play IMO and personifies why, as much as I want to appreciate Subban's talents, I never will at least until he walks from the Canadiens. And I'm all for subtle shit done by defensemen to gain an advantage.Andrew said:
He's an NHL defenseman. He knows exactly where he was, the time left and what he was doing. You don't just randomly run into the net when cutting off a wraparound. That's peewee and earlier shit.RedOctober3829 said:
I don't expect them to call the penalty there (though I don't doubt it was intentional), but I did expect them to add more than two seconds back. He hit it around 13-14 left, right? Can they go to replay or did they just pull ten seconds out of their ass?RedOctober3829 said:
patinorange said:
It would have taken king kong sized balls to call a penalty shot there and had the Bruins scored and gone on to win the game in overtime, those 20,000 Habs fans would have found that torch the kid skated around the rink with in the opening ceremony, beat the shit out of him, stole the torch and burned the arena and the city to the ground.
The Bruins haven't lost two in a row all year, they're not about to start now, I expect them to come out flying Thursday night and play like their season is on the line; get the fucking lead, keep it and win the game and go from there.
And I like Myt1's plan for Thursday; God's speed with that one, I'm pulling for you.....................
Of course I think we all know he did it on purpose. The refs just aren't going to call it in a situation like that in the playoffs. It sucks.kenneycb said:
Also, Tim Peel was the ref so if you think he's suddenly gaining balls or competency I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you. I did enjoy getting a couple of looks at the casino from the Habs fan rocking the anniversary prison unis after declaring typical Montreal a few times tonight.
“@ESPNJoeyMac: Rask said he wasn't banging his stick on the ice when Subban's penalty was over.”
Sums it up through three games. Sharpness lacking in all facets of the game.
Sums it up through three games. Sharpness lacking in all facets of the game.
I think we need to go back to our 10 game winning streak thread starter. Cshea needs another chance.
Seriously...how many times does that ever happen ever with nobody forcing him into the net??? It's so obvious it's almost comical except for it's Montreal where bull shit always happens... Which in my mind is unacceptable in this day and age, no? I mean it's almost stopped happening in Yankee stadium why not Montreal?kenneycb said:
Weird series so far. You could make a solid argument for either team being up 3-0 now. Bruins have won the possession battle in all 3 games and have outshot Montreal in all 3 games. But on the flip side, the Habs have capitalized on their chances, played the entire series from ahead, and if not for a flurry at the end of game 2, they could be up 3-0.
I wouldn't do too much lineup tinkering between now and Thursday, but I still think the Lucic-Paille swap I posted earlier makes some sense. Give it a go, see what happens. The first line has been too erratic, give them a kick in the pants. Soderberg and Eriksson have been fantastic, I'd live to give them more of a scoring threat. Lucic should fit in well with them grinding along the boards, and perhaps he can take the net-front role that Loui's been playing. That'd free Loui up a bit to work his way in and out of space, and hopefully get him into more high-scoring areas. As for the Krejci line, perhaps Paille's wheels gets Iginla to move his feet a bit more. Iginla's board play has been pretty disappointing this series though so I'm not sure what kind of affect a shakeup would have on him. I have to think Iginla's hurt, he doesn't look like the same guy we saw in the regular season.
I wouldn't do too much lineup tinkering between now and Thursday, but I still think the Lucic-Paille swap I posted earlier makes some sense. Give it a go, see what happens. The first line has been too erratic, give them a kick in the pants. Soderberg and Eriksson have been fantastic, I'd live to give them more of a scoring threat. Lucic should fit in well with them grinding along the boards, and perhaps he can take the net-front role that Loui's been playing. That'd free Loui up a bit to work his way in and out of space, and hopefully get him into more high-scoring areas. As for the Krejci line, perhaps Paille's wheels gets Iginla to move his feet a bit more. Iginla's board play has been pretty disappointing this series though so I'm not sure what kind of affect a shakeup would have on him. I have to think Iginla's hurt, he doesn't look like the same guy we saw in the regular season.