Former NO player Will Smith shot and killed

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Low hanging fruit.

On a more serious note, this is why it's always smartest to avoid road rage type issues. It's easy to be flippant about flipping someone off or riding their ass, but you never know who's behind the wheel on the other side. That may not have happened here at all, as some reports suggest Smith never even got out of his car, but it's a crazy world at times. This is a waste of two lives at least, over basically nothing. Stupid.
 
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The suspect in this killing received an undisclosed settlement from the city of New Orleans after NOPD shot and killed his mentally unstable father in an incident shortly after Katrina. The son was I think 19 at the time and had sought $4 million.
 

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Completely. One of those situations where if nobody is packing, everybody lives. There is probably a fistfight. Maybe the guy goes after him with a tire iron. But it is probably broken up.
Couldn't agree more. There are tons of road rage incidents here in Seoul. Many times more than what I experienced in the States. Everyone drives like crap (is it a stereotype if it's true?) and they used to give away licenses if you could start the car and drive 10 meters, just to sell more Hyundais. There are plenty of fistfights and occasional knife attacks but everyone walks away with their lives intact.
 

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Low hanging fruit.

On a more serious note, this is why it's always smartest to avoid road rage type issues. It's easy to be flippant about flipping someone off or riding their ass, but you never know who's behind the wheel on the other side. That may not have happened here at all, as some reports suggest Smith never even got out of his car, but it's a crazy world at times. This is a waste of at least two lives at least, over basically nothing. Stupid.
Sad to see a life ended over this. I was hoping when he signed here he'd make an impact. About 10 years ago I had a guy in traffic get out of his car and start running after my car with a large knife over a nothing incident. Since then I've been way more careful. People are crazy.
 

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But maybe not the kind of crazy you are thinking of. PFT:

Circumstances of Will Smith murder suggest possible motive other than road rage

Regardless of why Cardell Hayes shot and killed former Saints defensive end Will Smith, the fact remains that Hayes apparently did it. The motive may be a little murkier than first believed.

Dubbed an incident of road rage at first, the New Orleans Advocate points out that Hayes sued the City of New Orleans in 2005 after police officers killed his father. Shortly before the automobile accident that resulted in Hayes shooting Smith and his wife, Smith and former Saints teammate Pierre Thomas had eaten dinner with Billy Ceravolo, one of the officers who shot Anthony Hayes and who was personally sued by Cardell Hayes.

Per the Advocate, Ceravolo described Smith and Thomas as personal friends. However, Ceravolo was not at the scene of the shooting. Ceravolo also claimed he wasn’t aware that Cardell Hayes had named Ceravolo in the lawsuit, which was settled in 2011 for what Hayes’ lawyer called a “large” amount of money.

If Cardell Hayes were merely seeking retribution, common sense suggests he would have simply shot Ceravolo. Then again, the mind of a person capable of killing another person isn’t always awash in rational thought. For now, the point is that either the incident of road rage carried with it a strange and bizarre coincidence, or that there really was no coincidence.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/10/circumstances-of-will-smith-murder-suggest-scenario-other-than-road-rage/
 

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Heard the gunshots last night from my porch, which is about two blocks away from the shooting. Already a memorial in place where it went down.

Spoke to a bartender from the watering hole next to where the accident occurred and the suspect's car was parked outside for at least an hour prior to the accident. Maybe he was drunk or maybe something else went down.

There are a lot of coincidences in this case and while the police currently believe this was random, I wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't.
 

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Low hanging fruit.

On a more serious note, this is why it's always smartest to avoid road rage type issues. It's easy to be flippant about flipping someone off or riding their ass, but you never know who's behind the wheel on the other side. That may not have happened here at all, as some reports suggest Smith never even got out of his car, but it's a crazy world at times. This is a waste of two lives at least, over basically nothing. Stupid.
Just about 2 weeks ago my project manager decided to duck out and get fast food for lunch, something like Wendy's. It's the middle of Scottsdale and he accidentally cut someone off. The other car starts blaring their horn and flashing lights, he held up his hands whilst driving to acknowledge it was his fault..."me bad " sort of thing. Anyway, the other driver starts tailgating and continues to berate him via the horn. After about a minute of this, my work colleague gets fed up...they stop at a red light. The guy in the other car is still sounding his horn and my buddy decides enough is enough. He gets out of his SUV and heads towards the other car to ask what the problem is ( probably not a smart thing), the other guy gets out pointing a gun at him. It was pretty crazy...anyway the project manager holds up his hand in a "you win" type of gesture and decides to get back in his car. The point being it escalated so much over something very silly.
 

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At an event once I was supposed to respond to the "Toast to the Canadians" the guy told he was doing his "Top five things about Americans Canadians don't Know". So I did my own reverse top 5. I got great laughs from the Canadians when I said, "We are not a polite as you think, for example in Canada we give each other the finger while driving, but are very courteous down here. The reason is we just assume every American has a gun."
 

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More of the story evolving.. Smith may have started the whole thing:

"Surveillance video released Tuesday shows showed what appears to be Smith’s Mercedes bumping into a Hummer driven by Cardell Hayes on Saturday night in New Orleans. The Hummer then pulls over, but the Mercedes pulls out and drives away.

Police said Hayes then followed Smith and hit the Mercedes from behind, pushing it into a car in front of it, which was being driven by a companion of Smith."
http://mashup.weei.com/sports/2016/04/13/wednesdays-morning-mashup-police-reveal-more-information-about-will-smith-shooting?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 

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And police found a loaded (but unfired) gun in Smiths car.

http://www.nola.gov/nopd/press-releases/2016/04-12-2016-nopd-provides-update-on-investigation-i/

This morning (April 12), detectives executed a search warrant on the Mercedes G63 and the Hummer H2. During the search, detectives recovered a fully-loaded revolver inside Hayes’ vehicle and a fully-loaded 9 millimeter handgun inside Smith’s vehicle. No bullet casings were found inside either vehicle and no ballistic evidence was recovered to show that either weapon was fired during the incident. A search of the Impala is pending.
 

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Will Smith was shot eight times, seven times in the back and once in the chest, the New Orleans coroner said Wednesday in his preliminary report, which preliminarily classified the former New Orleans Saints' defensive end's death as a homicide.
Coroner Jeffrey Rouse said in a statement that preliminary autopsy results revealed "seven of these wounds were penetrating in nature, with projectiles recovered and no corresponding exit wounds.
"These bullet tracks had entrance into the left upper back (1), left mid-back (2), left lower back (3), and left lateral chest wall (1). Many of these bullets perforated vital organs, including the lungs and heart.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15196959/will-smith-shot-8-s-7-s-back-new-orleans-coroner-says
 

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More of the story evolving.. Smith may have started the whole thing:

"Surveillance video released Tuesday shows showed what appears to be Smith’s Mercedes bumping into a Hummer driven by Cardell Hayes on Saturday night in New Orleans. The Hummer then pulls over, but the Mercedes pulls out and drives away.

Police said Hayes then followed Smith and hit the Mercedes from behind, pushing it into a car in front of it, which was being driven by a companion of Smith."
http://mashup.weei.com/sports/2016/04/13/wednesdays-morning-mashup-police-reveal-more-information-about-will-smith-shooting?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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