Are we talking about the same Sydney Crosby that Felger goes out of his way to call a pussy and a douchebag, that Sydney Crosby? Are we talking about the same NBA that has players essentially tell their teammates to hold them back when they make a motion towards another player but don't actually throw any punches let alone get hit in the face? Glad you joined the conversation with such witty insights.
Probably the same thing he did when he was face to face with John Henry for 2 hours, hammer him and ask the same questions he has been asking the audience for weeks. Then again you never know as we all saw when he bashed the Sox for signing Mike Cameron for a few days and then the toughest question he asked was how he liked Milwaukee.
This proves the point of what Felger supports have been saying. Kutcher obviously prefers basketball as a sport. Felger happens to prefer hockey. He doesn't prefer hockey to play a part, or create some character or persona, or because the Bruins are hot right now, he loves hockey because he loves hockey. And he doesn't pretend to love or even like a sport when it isn't true.
Just wanted to say that I caught this segment, and it was (to me) both spot on and hilarious. It was so perfect for him to crush. "Ah just whack at that thar lil white ball! Hooooeee!"
I hear you. I'm very familiar with the radio business, and of course Howard Stern pioneered this sort of gimmick decades ago. I'm not talking about daily trolling for reaction, I'm talking about irresponsible character assassination. Felger's assertions about KG's motives for playing well down the stretch cross the line of credibility and good taste. That's not good radio; it's just an ignorant blowhard trashing a man who has earned the benefit of the doubt over 18 years of distinguished effort.
Says you. You talk like your opinion is more "correct" than his. The truth is neither of you know exactly what does or doesn't motivate Kevin Garnett. He's paid to give his opinion so he gives it. (I happen to side with him somewhat on Garnett.......especially the angle that he's a trash talking bully who picks on Euros and crappy players) I think its great radio.
When I wrote " Just one more reason", you must know I was mocking a Felgerism, right? My argument was crap, and as insipid and arbitrary as the ones he presents about the NBA sucking. For what it's worth, I don't prefer one sport over another based off of who I perceive to be "truly" tough. It's funny to me that you've gobbled up his take, though.
You like KG and think he's a guy who has busted his ass all career and deserves the benefit of the doubt. I agree with you 100%. But is it all that egregious for a sports talk show host to say that a guy is ramping it up because of a contract year? Regardless of whether you agree with him or not, I wouldn't call it "character assassination". Shit, compared to half the stuff that gets spewed on talk radio, it's pretty tame.
My fault, I didn't catch the sarcasm or snark in your post. You're right though, if you want to listen or watch sports radio or news, unless you want to watch NESN or listen to Ordway and Holley it is hard to avoid him or his opinions and if you dont' like him I can see where that would be grating.
Do you want to, you know, contribute something to the site? That you're indistinguishable from a WEEI toady and offer nothing isn't something you should hang your proverbial hat on.
Don't apologize for this - it was a shit post and the guy has done a 180 since being called on it. If you're using sarcasm on the internet it is incumbent on YOU to make it clear and if your weak shit gets blasted, it's not OK to reverse course and claim your wicked hot sports take was "sarcasm". Bullshit.
Great post.
I haven't done a 180 on anything. Trying to compare Brandon Bass to Sydney Crosby or Dennis Rodman to Shawn Thornton is really stupid. I did it. He also does it, in a roundabout way ...apples and oranges shit......it's just......really, really dumb. Trying to say hockey is a better sport based off of that is stupid. What more do I have to do so you can understand it?
I think that's most peoples issue with the comment though. KG isn't just playing well in a contract year, he plays well every year. If you look at his stats from this year and last year, they're almost identical. Same as 08-09 before he got hurt. When you say someone is playing well in a contract year, to me that means you're saying the guy is giving more of an effort than he did previously because he's seeing dollar signs. Have you ever heard anyone say about KG, eh he's not really giving much effort? I never have, and would be stunned if anyone who watches basketball thinks so. He's welcome to his opinion, but we're also welcome to think it's ridiculous.
What??? That's your problem? His reasons why he likes the NHL over the NBA, perceived toughness being just one of them, are very long and have been covered on multiple occasions. Not only that but he has never once compared Bass and Rodman to Crosby or Thornton or any other combination that you want to throw out there.
Good points, I didn't look at it from this angle. The Celtics were pretty bad in the 90's and 00's but I think EEI still had the broadcasting rights so that they had to cover them so it makes sense.
For about 3 weeks before the trade deadline to now, I'd say there's at least been on 1 segment totally dedicated to the Celtics on T&R everyday, if not 2. Wallach and Rich have been talking a ton about the team, their chances, should they trade players, they're recent resurgence. I think they've been talked about as much as the Red Sox, not including the mocking of Bobby V.
Toucher and Rich having the token white Celtic on once a week in the morning doesn't exactly fill the void of basketball talk that is lacking on TSH, IMO
Again, if your comedy-centered morning show (which is awesome, by the way, I love Toucher and Rich) is leading the NBA talk charge at your station with one segment per morning I think that speaks volumes and furthers my point.
As I'm sure you know I'm a HUGE Celtics and NBA fan, but I don't mind his take on basketball. At least he's honest. What I WOULDN'T want would be him taking half his show trying to talk lucidly about playoff rotations or matchups when its something he knows nothing about. If your a huge hockey fan, how the hell are you going to have time to watch basketball? And on top of that the two sports match like oil and water.......its like comparing country music to rap.......neither understand the other very well.
I'm not saying I would prefer Felger to try and be some basketball expert, I'm not saying anything like that. I'm saying that his refusal to discuss the NBA hurts his show. It does. I don't think there's any way around that, but on the other hand, if 98.5 carried Celtics games and WEEI had the Bruins I would be shocked if Felger didn't at least make an attempt to talk Celtics on a higher level than he does now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
So if that's the ONLY thing worse than his current approach, his current approach is not very good, right? That's my main point here.
Fine, but like I said earlier, the Celtics are still a draw here, the NBA trade deadline was brimming with Celtics-related rumors and whispers. It made sense from a ratings perspective to do this and they had to re-arrange a lot of chairs to make it tolerable. These are your words, not mine.
Yes, WEEI handled the Bruins and the NHL in general incredibly poorly. I'm not saying otherwise. What I do not agree with, is the idea that Felger allowing NBA callers to talk and then adding almost literally nothing to the discussion (Mazz either) is not, in my opinion, that much different from Ordway laughing at hockey callers. Would you think more of Ordway and WEEI if all these years they took Bruins related calls but constantly talked about how much they hate hockey whenever it was brought up? Would you consider that really much of an improvement? I wouldn't.
I'll refer back to the point I just made. 98.5 was launched with the intent of grabbing hockey fans and WEEI made that incredibly easy for them. So did the fact that the Bruins won the Stanley Cup. The Celtics are on the decline maybe, but they are still in the playoffs and lately they have been beating good teams in a short season and I expect more than what F&M give me in terms of C's coverage.
I saw that and I was pretty shocked that he said it. Between this and the Mr. Baseball quote from a few years back, I don't think that Sean McAdam likes Michael Felger too much. And that's too bad because I think that they'd do really well teamed up on a daily radio show.
It's awesome...I love "media on media" crime.
Does Sean cry if someone so much as mentions the name Bob Hohler?
I was going to post this. Neumie started making Felgie's case and literally said that Tito might have started neglecting some duties and showing up late to work. McAdam then retorted, "Well if Mike Felger thinks Tito was showing up late to work he's absolutely wrong." Then immediately said said the map and compass line. I think Sean was offended that Felger, a guy who didn't work hundreds of hours at the park last season like he did, was surmising a theory based on Francona's work habits - which Felger had no first hand knowledge of.
I don't remember it being discussed specifically, just that Felger was ripping into Tito for pills and being distracted and letting his marital problems get into the way of doing his job. And that the media was too busy letting Tito off the hook to actually discuss it.
Great win for the C's tonight without the big three!
He doesnt' make many salient poins about the NBA and for someone who is a fan of the Celtics or the NBA (I'm not) I can see why he would get on your nerves and you wouldn't like him. Quite honestly if he tried to post about the NBA here on SoSH he would rightly be called a troll because that's basically all he does with his listeners, but at least the listeners know he doesn't like the NBA and he doesn't pretend that he loves it and then talks out of his ass.
