Felger and Mazz - Creating False Naratives one day at a time

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not to defend them   
 
but  no hockey   still 146 baseball games  left   going to lose in 4 or 5 games aga lebron     
 
but this is when felger and mazz need to take a vacation     
 
they did this to tim thomas too    
 

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I listened for a bit today re: Brady. It seemed to me like they talked about it because that's what the callers wanted to talk about. The one guy (who I heard) bring up it being political Felger asked him why he thought it was political. What proof he had. In other words, Tim Thomas made a big stink about NOT going and was self serving in his omission from the event. Brady just didn't go.
 
To me, the conversation was more "why didn't Brady go, we are genuinely wondering" and not "omg crazy Republican Tom Brady didn't go talk to the democrats!:"
 

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The problem is this is just what they do...then they pin pats fans as being "sensitive". Felger will do his "oh i dont know" routine to bait one caller into defending *insert local athlete/team here* then they label all the local fans as soft and sensitive. Its annoying because i want to like 98.5 more than WEEI but im just about 90percent podcasts now.
 

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they pin pats fans as being "sensitive". 
 
They are. See every time, ever as evidence. 
 
This garbage truck would be so much better if it didn't smell like garbage. I don't even want to smell the garbage truck if it smells like garbage today. What? The garbage truck smells like garbage?! That fucking garbage truck, always smelling like garbage. It would be a better truck if it smelled like bacon. But everyday, it smells like garbage. Maybe if I smell it tomorrow, it'll be bacon and not garbage.
 

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NDame616 said:
I listened for a bit today re: Brady. It seemed to me like they talked about it because that's what the callers wanted to talk about. The one guy (who I heard) bring up it being political Felger asked him why he thought it was political. What proof he had. In other words, Tim Thomas made a big stink about NOT going and was self serving in his omission from the event. Brady just didn't go.
 
To me, the conversation was more "why didn't Brady go, we are genuinely wondering" and not "omg crazy Republican Tom Brady didn't go talk to the democrats!:"
If they really wanted to not talk about it, they easily could have changed gears. They seem to always have full call lines so i'm sure there were a few on there with topics other than the Pats WH visit. Hell, they've scrapped calls altogether for stretches of a show when they're (callers) are bad.
Felger loves to say things "i don't want to spend a lot of time on this but..." and then proceed to give his take and field calls for 2 hours on that subject.
 

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soxfan121 said:
 
They are. See every time, ever as evidence. 
 
This garbage truck would be so much better if it didn't smell like garbage. I don't even want to smell the garbage truck if it smells like garbage today. What? The garbage truck smells like garbage?! That fucking garbage truck, always smelling like garbage. It would be a better truck if it smelled like bacon. But everyday, it smells like garbage. Maybe if I smell it tomorrow, it'll be bacon and not garbage.
Who let you on this site anyways?
 

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They are. See every time, ever as evidence. 
 
This garbage truck would be so much better if it didn't smell like garbage. I don't even want to smell the garbage truck if it smells like garbage today. What? The garbage truck smells like garbage?! That fucking garbage truck, always smelling like garbage. It would be a better truck if it smelled like bacon. But everyday, it smells like garbage. Maybe if I smell it tomorrow, it'll be bacon and not garbage.
You're a miserable, cantankerous, piece of crap that 90 percent of the board has blocked.

If Soxfan121 types a novel length negative know it all post, but nobody reads it, did it ever happen?
 

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You're a miserable, cantankerous, piece of crap that 90 percent of the board has blocked.

If Soxfan121 types a novel length negative know it all post, but nobody reads it, did it ever happen?
 
Garbage post from a garbage poster complaining about the smell of garbage from the garbage truck of sports radio. 
 
You do know quoting a post from someone "90 percent of the board has blocked" makes that post visible to everyone and thus, annoys the audience you're pandering to? You're no smarter about the board than you are about sports radio. GJGE. 
 

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soxfan121 said:
 
Garbage post from a garbage poster complaining about the smell of garbage from the garbage truck of sports radio. 
 
You do know quoting a post from someone "90 percent of the board has blocked" makes that post visible to everyone and thus, annoys the audience you're pandering to? You're no smarter about the board than you are about sports radio. GJGE. 
LOL well done you miserable troll.

90s likely conservative you're right.

Man I would absolutely hate myself if I was you too.

Garbage post from a garbage poster about a garbage poster. Boom roasted.
 

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I listened for a bit today re: Brady. It seemed to me like they talked about it because that's what the callers wanted to talk about. The one guy (who I heard) bring up it being political Felger asked him why he thought it was political. What proof he had. In other words, Tim Thomas made a big stink about NOT going and was self serving in his omission from the event. Brady just didn't go.
 
To me, the conversation was more "why didn't Brady go, we are genuinely wondering" and not "omg crazy Republican Tom Brady didn't go talk to the democrats!:"
I turned it on at around 4:30 when I left work a little early and this is what I heard.  I was expecting it to be worse to be honest but maybe my bar is too low, but they sounded pretty reasonable.
 
southshoresoxfan said:
The problem is this is just what they do...then they pin pats fans as being "sensitive". Felger will do his "oh i dont know" routine to bait one caller into defending *insert local athlete/team here* then they label all the local fans as soft and sensitive. Its annoying because i want to like 98.5 more than WEEI but im just about 90percent podcasts now.
I'm a Pats Fan and have you seen Blinded by the Lombardis?  A not insignificant number of Patriots fans are no better than the Yankee Fan mouth breathers that we used to mock because they were thin skinned and your tantrum against Soxfan pretty much just proved his point.
 

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I turned it on at around 4:30 when I left work a little early and this is what I heard.  I was expecting it to be worse to be honest but maybe my bar is too low, but they sounded pretty reasonable.
 
I'm a Pats Fan and have you seen Blinded by the Lombardis?  A not insignificant number of Patriots fans are no better than the Yankee Fan mouth breathers that we used to mock because they were thin skinned and your tantrum against Soxfan pretty much just proved his point.
My point was that they rile up the LCD then call all Pats fans sensitive. A vocal minority does not equal a majority. I know the circle I watch and talk Pats with laugh off the barbs consistently.
 

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Moved on to podcasts about 3 months ago. I doubt i will ever tune into them again. My afternoon commute is much more enjoyable.
 

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You're right mike doing solid work today.

@YoureRightMike: People, he drafted Edelman as a QUARTERBACK. Belichick didn't know Edelman was going to be this good as a WR. He got LUCKY.

@YoureRightMike: So Brady wasn't celebrating his parents anniversary, but instead was spotted at the facility? UNBELIEVABLE, Mike.

@YoureRightMike: He would rather get a massage by the team therapist than join his teammates in Washington. I'm telling you, he's just not into it anymore.

@YoureRightMike: They should have thrown him out of the facility like they did with Hernandez. I'm shaking my head, Mike. I just don't get Brady anymore.
 

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Today, I have learned that Bill Belichick the GM is overrated.  
 
Devin McCourty is not an impact player either.
 
The more you know, guys.
And the reason he is overrated is because he doesn't draft particularly well, he just has more draft picks than other GMs.
 

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Today, I have learned that Bill Belichick the GM is overrated.  
 
 
You must be new around these parts. This is one of their favorite go to topics when things go south with the Patriots.
 
Is Bill Belichick the GM, killing Bill Belichick the coach? 
OF COURSE HE IS MIKE!
 

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You must be new around these parts. This is one of their favorite go to topics when things go south with the Patriots.
 
Is Bill Belichick the GM, killing Bill Belichick the coach? 
OF COURSE HE IS MIKE!
I am just going to dismiss your argument out of hand, you sound like a sensitive Patriots footie-pajamas toadie.

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I am just going to dismiss your argument out of hand, you sound like a sensitive Patriots footie-pajamas toadie.

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I don't wear Patriots footie pajamas and  I can't stand Belichick as a person, but I'd have to rate him as the greatest modern GM of any major sports franchise.  In his last 15 years, the New England Patriots have come closest to the perennial contention that the New York Yankees achieved from the early 20s to the early 60s.  Except that, unlike the old time Yankees,  Belichick has done it in a 32 team league, with a salary cap, free agency, a collegiate draft, a multi-tier playoff system and a balanced schedule.  As a GM he's achieved the impossible.
 
Which makes the Felger-Mazz rantings beyond amusing.  They are detestable.
 

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I don't wear Patriots footie pajamas and  I can't stand Belichick as a person, but I'd have to rate him as the greatest modern GM of any major sports franchise.  In his last 15 years, the New England Patriots have come closest to the perennial contention that the New York Yankees achieved from the early 20s to the early 60s.  Except that, unlike the old time Yankees,  Belichick has done it in a 32 team league, with a salary cap, free agency, a collegiate draft, a multi-tier playoff system and a balanced schedule.  As a GM he's achieved the impossible.
 
Which makes the Felger-Mazz rantings beyond amusing.  They are detestable.
Mike, he got Brady in the sixth round! Brady's been making up for Belichicks mistakes for years!

The 2001-2004 teams were all guys he inherited except he lucked out with Brady!

By the way I prefer the term bobo for my pats fandom you green teamer.
 

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To the people who still subject themselves to this self-parody...have they mentioned Mayweather's history of hitting women once yet?
 

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To the people who still subject themselves to this self-parody...have they mentioned Mayweather's history of hitting women once yet?
D&c went after f&m hard this morning about the hypocrisy of them condemning ray rice, but now that they're on radio row for the mayweather fight they have barely touched on the subject - doubly bad as mayweather has proven to be much more violent
 

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D&c went after f&m hard this morning about the hypocrisy of them condemning ray rice, but now that they're on radio row for the mayweather fight they have barely touched on the subject - doubly bad as mayweather has proven to be much more violent
Dale and Holley brought that up during drive time last night as well. I was surprised to hear a direct mention of another show from them, but with D&C doing it this morning I wonder if that's a talking point the station as a whole wants out there.
 

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This will please F & M and distract from the misfortune of last night -- the Pats' pulling the trigger on a promising player at pick 32 rather than dealing it. For them, that's like stealing a Porterhouse from a lumberjack. In that connection, there was no Borges article in the Herald today about round 1 of the draft. (I don't care if they are off covering the fight; all three of them would find a way of multi-tasking if presented with the Porterhouse).
 

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This will please F & M and distract from the misfortune of last night -- the Pats' pulling the trigger on a promising player at pick 32 rather than dealing it. For them, that's like stealing a Porterhouse from a lumberjack. In that connection, there was no Borges article in the Herald today about round 1 of the draft. (I don't care if they are off covering the fight; all three of them would find a way of multi-tasking if presented with the Porterhouse).
Except for the fact that Felger earlier this week said he hates when Belichick trades out of the first round because no one in the NFL has a better track record with first round picks in the last 15-16 years. He has never picked one bust in the first round that provided absolutely nothing to the Patriots and no other team in the league can say that.   When he asked Mazz and the other guy to come up with one, Maroney was the closest but at least he gave the team something.
 

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Except for the fact that Felger earlier this week said he hates when Belichick trades out of the first round because no one in the NFL has a better track record with first round picks in the last 15-16 years. He has never picked one bust in the first round that provided absolutely nothing to the Patriots and no other team in the league can say that.   When he asked Mazz and the other guy to come up with one, Maroney was the closest but at least he gave the team something.
 
This is false logic though - perhaps one of the reasons he rarely / never totally whiffs on first round picks is because sometimes he recognizes that it isn't worth it to use the pick, hence the trade down. If anything it is even more of a point in BB's favor.
 

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This is false logic though - perhaps one of the reasons he rarely / never totally whiffs on first round picks is because sometimes he recognizes that it isn't worth it to use the pick, hence the trade down. If anything it is even more of a point in BB's favor.
Did you hear the segment? Both F&M were praising Belichick saying that he should stay in the first round because he's hit on 13/15 picks. And they admitted Easley is prob any an incomplete.

They said that his hit rate goes down each round the team drops--which they think is not unique to the Pats. So they wonder why BB trades his first round picks. Which, if extrapolate it to the rest of the draft, is not a bad question.
 

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Did you hear the segment? Both F&M were praising Belichick saying that he should stay in the first round because he's hit on 13/15 picks. And they admitted Easley is prob any an incomplete.

They said that his hit rate goes down each round the team drops--which they think is not unique to the Pats. So they wonder why BB trades his first round picks. Which, if extrapolate it to the rest of the draft, is not a bad question.
 
I did not hear it, was just responding to homebrew's point. But it is definitely a good question.
 

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Guys, give them a break. 98.5 put them up at The Excalibur for the last couple days according to T&R.

I'd love to see Felger hanging out at Excalibur with wizards and knights roaming around.
 

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Did you hear the segment? Both F&M were praising Belichick saying that he should stay in the first round because he's hit on 13/15 picks. And they admitted Easley is prob any an incomplete.

They said that his hit rate goes down each round the team drops--which they think is not unique to the Pats. So they wonder why BB trades his first round picks. Which, if extrapolate it to the rest of the draft, is not a bad question.
I'll start by saying I didn't hear the segment, but from what has been said in this thread, their information as usual is incomplete.
 
What happened in the times Belichick has traded out of the first round?
 
He's traded out of the first round four times.
 
2007 Pats had pick #28  They traded it for a fourth round pick and a first round pick in 2008. They traded the fourth round pick for Randy Moss and used the first round pick the following season for one of their 13 hits in Jerod Mayo.(along with a 3rd after a trade down used on Shawn Crable). I'd call Mayo/Moss a good value for the resource of pick #28. HIT
 
2009 Pats had pick #23. They traded down twice to eventually get out of the first round. After both trades they ended up with a 2nd, 3rd, 7th and a 2nd in 2010. The 2nd round pick was used on Darius Butler. The 3rd rounder on Brandon Tate. The 7th on Julian Edelman. The 2nd in 2010 they used a 6th round pick to move up two spots and take Rob Gronkowski. I'd call Gronk/Edelman a good value for the resources of #23 and a 6th rounder. HIT
 
2011 Pats had pick #28. They traded down for a 2nd round pick and a 1st in 2012. They used the 2nd on Shane Vereen. They used a 3rd round pick to move up six spots with the 1st in 2012 to pick another one of their 13 hits, Chandler Jones. I'd call Jones/Vereen a good value for the resources of #28 and a 3rd round pick. HIT.
 
2013 Pats had pick #29. They traded down for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th. They took Jamie Collins in the 2nd, Logan Ryan in the 3rd, Josh Boyce in the 4th and traded the 7th, with Jeff Demps, for LeGarrette Blount. I'd say Collins/Blount alone is worth the 29th pick whether Ryan/Boyce ever work out. HIT.
 
4 for 4 hits on trading down. Maybe Felger & Mazz meant to argue they should trade out of the first round more often?
 

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I'll start by saying I didn't hear the segment, but from what has been said in this thread, their information as usual is incomplete.
 
What happened in the times Belichick has traded out of the first round?
 
He's traded out of the first round four times.
 
2007 Pats had pick #28  They traded it for a fourth round pick and a first round pick in 2008. They traded the fourth round pick for Randy Moss and used the first round pick the following season for one of their 13 hits in Jerod Mayo.(along with a 3rd after a trade down used on Shawn Crable). I'd call Mayo/Moss a good value for the resource of pick #28. HIT
 
2009 Pats had pick #23. They traded down twice to eventually get out of the first round. After both trades they ended up with a 2nd, 3rd, 7th and a 2nd in 2010. The 2nd round pick was used on Darius Butler. The 3rd rounder on Brandon Tate. The 7th on Julian Edelman. The 2nd in 2010 they used a 6th round pick to move up two spots and take Rob Gronkowski. I'd call Gronk/Edelman a good value for the resources of #23 and a 6th rounder. HIT
 
2011 Pats had pick #28. They traded down for a 2nd round pick and a 1st in 2012. They used the 2nd on Shane Vereen. They used a 3rd round pick to move up six spots with the 1st in 2012 to pick another one of their 13 hits, Chandler Jones. I'd call Jones/Vereen a good value for the resources of #28 and a 3rd round pick. HIT.
 
2013 Pats had pick #29. They traded down for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th. They took Jamie Collins in the 2nd, Logan Ryan in the 3rd, Josh Boyce in the 4th and traded the 7th, with Jeff Demps, for LeGarrette Blount. I'd say Collins/Blount alone is worth the 29th pick whether Ryan/Boyce ever work out. HIT.
 
4 for 4 hits on trading down. Maybe Felger & Mazz meant to argue they should trade out of the first round more often?
That's great information.
 
Now if only I could turn on my radio and get that kind of info from a sports talk show.  As the Beach Boys used to sing, "Wouldn't it be nice."
 

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I can't wait to hear F&M, who have watched more wheelchair midget basketball than boxing in the past decade, spend hours talking about the Mayweather fight.

Asking their opinion on boxing is like asking a college dude what it's like givinG birth
 

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I can't wait to hear F&M, who have watched more wheelchair midget basketball than boxing in the past decade, spend hours talking about the Mayweather fight.
Asking their opinion on boxing is like asking a college dude what it's like givinG birth
So they're 99.9% of Americans? Im sure they're comments about the fight won't resonate with the millions of people who didn't enjoy the fight.

Anyone asking their opinions about the fight is dumber than a non boxing fan spending $100 for the fight.
 

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So they're 99.9% of Americans? Im sure they're comments about the fight won't resonate with the millions of people who didn't enjoy the fight.

Anyone asking their opinions about the fight is dumber than a non boxing fan spending $100 for the fight.
Or complaining about F&M's discussion about golf and the Masters. 
 
Edit: I don't watch boxing, know next to nothing about boxing, but knew enough about this fight that it wasn't going to be worth the $100 and predicted this outcome.
 

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Felger: If Hanley wasn't such a clown, he wouldn't have got hurt on that play. He didn't need to hit the wall. It's his own fault. He tried for that ball like an idiot.
 
Mazz is at least defending Hanley.
 

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Felger: If Hanley wasn't such a clown, he wouldn't have got hurt on that play. He didn't need to hit the wall. It's his own fault. He tried for that ball like an idiot.
 
Mazz is at least defending Hanley.
If Hanley doesn't get to the ball, Felger would hammer him for poor defense.  If Hanley hustles and tries to catch that ball and hits the wall, Felger hammers him.
 
Great radio.
 

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I dont know how you can look at that play and say, "if he was really trying to learn the position (doesn't work hard), he wouldn't have hit the wall." But, again, I'm not a talk radio host. I also liked his claim yesterday that Chris Paul was faking the hamstring injury for dramatic effect because NBA.
 

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Felger: If Hanley wasn't such a clown, he wouldn't have got hurt on that play. He didn't need to hit the wall. It's his own fault. He tried for that ball like an idiot.
 
Mazz is at least defending Hanley.
 
Literally said on TV last night that Hanley "should have been able to just stop." His hot take is that momentum does not exist.