Haven't watched the game. How is Morris fitting in? I see he has more 3pt attempts than George.
He's a disaster. Same thing we saw here last year.Haven't watched the game. How is Morris fitting in? I see he has more 3pt attempts than George.
He's going to torpedo that team. Bet on the Lakers.He's a disaster. Same thing we saw here last year.
They've been nigh unstoppable at home, with this win they'll be 25-2 in Philly. But they still can't get it together on the road.This feels like a big win for a struggling Sixers team. I don't like it.
What makes you say Morris was a disaster last night? He matched up fine defensively and knocked down a bunch of 3's which is what the Clippers traded him to do. I was lukewarm on the deal being a Harkless guy but if your takeaway from last night was that Morris was a disaster it smells more like a preconceived bias.He's a disaster. Same thing we saw here last year.
Or the Bucks...of course Giannis is out.Didn’t realize the Raptors were actually allowed to lose a game.
You mean the Wiggins whose teams have been significantly better with him on the floor nearly every season (-1.8, +6.7, +3.1, +4.1, +1.6, +3.3)? Or the DLo whose teams have been significantly worse with him on the floor nearly every season? (-5.2, -4.7, -4.9, +0.7, -6.6)?Wolves are going to be a much better team with D'lo and Beasley and no Wiggins. I've liked Beasley for awhile and thought he was in a bad situation in Denver.
Ugh, sucks for Dame. Meanwhile, Suns announcers right now are already counting their all-star chickens with Devin Booker.Lillard looks like he has a groin injury here at the end of the Portland @ Memphis game. My guess is that we won't see him playing in the game this weekend which sucks given that he has been the most non-Zion/non-Giannis electric player in the NBA since the start of the year.
I think Beasley is better than D'Lo and Wiggins but we'll find out soon enough if I'm drinking the kool aid.You mean the Wiggins whose teams have been significantly better with him on the floor nearly every season (-1.8, +6.7, +3.1, +4.1, +1.6, +3.3)? Or the DLo whose teams have been significantly worse with him on the floor nearly every season? (-5.2, -4.7, -4.9, +0.7, -6.6)?
Seriously, it seems like a great move for both players. Both are flawed, but Wiggins' strengths should be emphasized alongside Steph/Klay/Dray in the old Harrison Barnes role of 4th banana/slasher/cutter, while DLo should thrive (offensively, anyway) running P&R all day with KAT.
I am going to get grief for this for being a Warriors fan (sort of but based on geography) or a SRN fan (totally and not based on geography) but I don't care. With Wiggins contract, he could never be referred to as a "buy low" candidate. However I think Myers, Kerr and the Warriors will get something good out of Wiggins. That franchise now has a track record of getting flawed players or misfits like McGee and Cousins to buy in. On paper, you see the appeal of having him surrounded by Curry, Thompson etc.Wiggins tonight: 27 pts (9-14 fg), 4 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl, 4 blk, +9 in a six-point loss (net +24).
Through three games with GS: 25.1 pts per 36 on .701 true shooting with a (total) net +49 on/off.
Hmm, I'd say it's apples and oranges. I like Beasley and think it's fair to say he's the best of the three in his role, and certainly the best for the $$$. But 6'-4" shooting guards who can fill it up and do little else are in pretty high supply in the league. Beasley can't handle, pass, and run an offense like DLo; and he's not a lanky 6'-8" guy you can throw on LeBron or Kawhi like Wiggins.I think Beasley is better than D'Lo and Wiggins but we'll find out soon enough if I'm drinking the kool aid.
I know. But I have to go to bed.Damn this Lakers at Denver game is very good.
No kidding. The most productive thing he did in OT was get elbowed in the face.Jokic is so damn frustrating
Wait, weren't you the one giving us the hard sell for months about how good DLo was, and how you were surprised the Celtics hadn't gone after him?You mean the Wiggins whose teams have been significantly better with him on the floor nearly every season (-1.8, +6.7, +3.1, +4.1, +1.6, +3.3)? Or the DLo whose teams have been significantly worse with him on the floor nearly every season? (-5.2, -4.7, -4.9, +0.7, -6.6)?
Seriously, it seems like a great move for both players. Both are flawed, but Wiggins' strengths should be emphasized alongside Steph/Klay/Dray in the old Harrison Barnes role of 4th banana/slasher/cutter, while DLo should thrive (offensively, anyway) running P&R all day with KAT.
I supported the Cs going after him before he joined the Ws (and before the Cs nabbed Kemba) since I thought his youth and length made him a great fit with the Cs’ young core. I still kinda think that, even though Kemba’s the better player now. DLo’s a lot better player than Kemba was at his age. (Though you could argue the Cs championship window is open now, and Kemba’s not old, so I can understand preferring Kemba).Wait, weren't you the one giving us the hard sell for months about how good DLo was, and how you were surprised the Celtics hadn't gone after him?
I'm fine with opinion-changing, but this seems to be extremely laundry-motivated reasoning.
Geez, if Portis had tossed that ball at Napier with any more arc he could have called for a fair catch. I mean, I get the game becoming softer for the benefit of player safety. I'm not one of those guys who replay clips of McHale's takedown of Rambis as how great the game used to be......if anything I'm further on the other side......but this play resulting in an ejection coming on top of a similar play a couple days ago (I can't recall specifically but I lol'd just as much) is about as ridiculous as they come. For decades the officials have allowed borderline infractions/fouls to be let go as they "didn't create an advantage".......and this ejection is the polar opposite of how officials have called and still call games today. Awful.I don't know how I feel about that ejection.
Sometimes young players only need a change of scenery or to be a better fit for them to reach their potential and Wiggins doesn't turn 25 until later this month. Players individual games don't always mature at the same pace.....for some it is physical maturity that needs to grow, for others it's mental, and for some it is simply being in the right role on the right team. I'm expecting to see the same from Russell in reverting back to last year and his leap with the Nets. He had a 26/11/6 in a 7-point loss to Charlotte with the most meaningless evaluation stat ever created (but some love it so.....) team-leading +12. When a player has a plus skillset to his game you don't want to give up on that player after 2-3 years.....it is the guys like Bender or Yabusele who don't possess plus skillsets that have a harder time making a leap into a productive player. Nothing is 100% but the likelihood of a player finding a perfect "fit'' is enhanced when he has plus skillsets such as shot creating, shot making and length/athleticism. Christian Wood is one an example of the latter.Wiggins tonight: 27 pts (9-14 fg), 4 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl, 4 blk, +9 in a six-point loss (net +24).
Through three games with GS: 25.1 pts per 36 on .701 true shooting with a (total) net +49 on/off.
If the Warriors get the 2020 #1 pick, I could see that going w/Wiggins + Minn '21 + Paschall for Bradley Beal. Beal's defensive effort has diminished every season.By the trade deadline, I was basically done with him, which I’d why I floated him in so many fantasy trades here. I’m sure I was unrealistic about his trade value in a few of them (laundry alert!) but by the end I was pretty much resigned to him going to Minnesota for crummy Wiggins and picks (which I hoped we could then foist on the Wizards for a disgruntled Beal, although now that crummy Wiggins is wearing the laundry, I’m kind of enjoying the slashing 6’-8” athletic freak...)
Beal's defensive "Effort" is a direct correlation to his team being competitive and to having better teammates. As I stated above....he has the ability to defend at a good level but when a player is asked to carry so much of the offensive load he has to conserve energy on the other end to compensateIf the Warriors get the 2020 #1 pick, I could see that going w/Wiggins + Minn '21 + Paschall for Bradley Beal. Beal's defensive effort has diminished every season.
Not to mention, Napier points to the bench it looks like. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Portis thought he was calling for the ball.Geez, if Portis had tossed that ball at Napier with any more arc he could have called for a fair catch. I mean, I get the game becoming softer for the benefit of player safety. I'm not one of those guys who replay clips of McHale's takedown of Rambis as how great the game used to be......if anything I'm further on the other side......but this play resulting in an ejection coming on top of a similar play a couple days ago (I can't recall specifically but I lol'd just as much) is about as ridiculous as they come. For decades the officials have allowed borderline infractions/fouls to be let go as they "didn't create an advantage".......and this ejection is the polar opposite of how officials have called and still call games today. Awful.
Edit: Recall. The play last week was somebody tossing the ball to the opponent standing at the FT line or gently pushing him. Something like that....and I believe it also led to an ejection.
At his best, 5 seasons ago, he was an OK defender. His rep has always been greater than his output. It would be nice if he could post 1 season of positive DBPM or DRtg below 105. Since I don't see the Wiz being competitive anytime soon, I'd expect more bad D from BB in the future, along with a big scoring average and 35 win seasons.Beal's defensive "Effort" is a direct correlation to his team being competitive and to having better teammates. As I stated above....he has the ability to defend at a good level but when a player is asked to carry so much of the offensive load he has to conserve energy on the other end to compensate
Assuming the team remains the shit show that it is I wouldn't expect Beal's defensive output to increase either based on his offensive necessity to the team either. He's stuck in an awful situation not conducive to winning or advancing his legacy......but someone really needs to back out of the ASG for Beal to be there where he belongs.At his best, 5 seasons ago, he was an OK defender. His rep has always been greater than his output. It would be nice if he could post 1 season of positive DBPM or DRtg below 105. Since I don't see the Wiz being competitive anytime soon, I'd expect more bad D from BB in the future, along with a big scoring average and 35 win seasons.
Might be you're right and I saw what I expected. It felt to me like he was a total ball stopper. Driving into three guys and not passing out, that kind of thing.What makes you say Morris was a disaster last night? He matched up fine defensively and knocked down a bunch of 3's which is what the Clippers traded him to do. I was lukewarm on the deal being a Harkless guy but if your takeaway from last night was that Morris was a disaster it smells more like a preconceived bias.
I’m not crazy with how he fits with the Clippers as he seems redundant to George and Kawhi. His perfect spot would have been taking over Kuzma’s role with the Lakers but that’s would have also cost them Danny Green along with Kuzma.Might be you're right and I saw what I expected. It felt to me like he was a total ball stopper. Driving into three guys and not passing out, that kind of thing.
It's close to meaningless in a one-game sample, but more meaningful as the sample size grows and diversifies. In a (hypothetical) infinitely large and diverse sample, it'd literally be the one evaluation stat we'd have to care about.He had a 26/11/6 in a 7-point loss to Charlotte with the most meaningless evaluation stat ever created (but some love it so.....) team-leading +12.
Geeeeeez: a top 5 pick this year, another (likely) top 5-10 pick next year AND Paschall for the pleasure of lopping four inches off of our second starting wing position? Beal is great and Wiggins is not, so maybe that's a fair asking price, but that's a little too rich for my blood. I'd try to hold back this year's #1 and Paschall and hope that Beal and his agent squawk enough to make it happen.If the Warriors get the 2020 #1 pick, I could see that going w/Wiggins + Minn '21 + Paschall for Bradley Beal. Beal's defensive effort has diminished every season.
Ha, I must have got the Simmon's dream all intertwined with Bradley Beal.Geeeeeez: a top 5 pick this year, another (likely) top 5-10 pick next year AND Paschall for the pleasure of lopping four inches off of our second starting wing position? Beal is great and Wiggins is not, so maybe that's a fair asking price, but that's a little too rich for my blood. I'd try to hold back this year's #1 and Paschall and hope that Beal and his agent squawk enough to make it happen.
Or I'd give up all those assets and more (possibly even Marquese "Bam Adebayo" Chriss) for Ben Simmons.
I supported the Cs going after him before he joined the Ws (and before the Cs nabbed Kemba) since I thought his youth and length made him a great fit with the Cs’ young core. I still kinda think that, even though Kemba’s the better player now. DLo’s a lot better player than Kemba was at his age. (Though you could argue the Cs championship window is open now, and Kemba’s not old, so I can understand preferring Kemba).
I thought/hoped DLo was young enough to iron out his flaws, and he has actually ironed out a couple of them (.561 true shooting, .379 from three on ultra-high volume, e.g.) At the same time, the more I watched him in GS, the more I saw his ball dominant dribble-dribble-dribbling, low motor, softness, and poor/un-versatile defense would never be a great fit in Kerrball.
By the trade deadline, I was basically done with him, which I’d why I floated him in so many fantasy trades here. I’m sure I was unrealistic about his trade value in a few of them (laundry alert!) but by the end I was pretty much resigned to him going to Minnesota for crummy Wiggins and picks (which I hoped we could then foist on the Wizards for a disgruntled Beal, although now that crummy Wiggins is wearing the laundry, I’m kind of enjoying the slashing 6’-8” athletic freak...)