Eastern Conference Quarterfinals Gamethread

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wow that floater over the net on the Montreal power play was close

edit: and then one that gets by Hammond and hits the post.
 

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Credit to Ottawa's 18 skaters for coming back more than once in that environment - aside from Lazar, he played the worst game I've seen him play.
 
Gotta roll with Anderson for game 2. Hammond is a pumpkin.
 

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Wonder if Subban gets a call from DPS. My guess is they end up deeming the 5 + game enough, but Stone did ultimately end up leaving the game injured so maybe they take a longer look at it.
 

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cshea said:
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/588528527521280000
 
Not really what he said.  He said either Subban is suspended or it's the same penalty for the Sens if one of the Habs players is similarly slashed.
 

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Not really what he said.  He said either Subban is suspended or it's the same penalty for the Sens if one of the Habs players is similarly slashed.
which essentially means what the tweet above says.
 

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CBC really, really hates the Senators.
 
I'm trying to figure out which crew from Rogers/CBC/HNiC got that series. At first, I thought it was the crew that does their Saturday night games on City, but it doesn't quite sound right to be them. Regardless, yeah, they came off in just the highlights as a Montreal home crew and not a national voice.
 
Also, PK always manages to do that one thing that confirms him as a douche, just when he's strung together a bunch of cool things that start to change your mind. It shouldn't matter whether Stone is seriously hurt or not, Subban should be gone for the series. There's not a lot of wiggle room in that video.
 

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BoSoxFink said:
which essentially means what the tweet above says.
No.... he means that if Subban doesn't get suspended and one of the Montreal players gets slashed, then the Ottawa player better not get suspended.
 
The tweet makes it sound like he is threatening to have one of his players slash someone.
 

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No.... he means that if Subban doesn't get suspended and one of the Montreal players gets slashed, then the Ottawa player better not get suspended.
 
The tweet makes it sound like he is threatening to have one of his players slash someone.
to me it sounds like he is threatening to do that if he isn't suspended.

Edit: and with this that may actually be the case.

@Real_ESPNLeBrun: NHL discipline chief Stephane Quintal confirms P.K. Subban not facing any more discipline for slash on Stone. Penalty last night sufficed.
 

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I don't care what anyone says, I would not want that PoS on the Bruins.
 
I agree with you completely.  His histrionics are unbelievable.  He high sticks a guy in the face and somehow manages to talk his way out of the penalty.  He's constantly flopping and faking, I honestly don't understand why guys don't take more runs at him.  One professional basically trying to break another's hand/wrist? These guys detest that stuff.
 
I mean, we have Marchand on our team and our fans get pretty down on him when he even approaches this line.  Subban finds the line, jumps over it, pisses on it, then moves 20 yards past it.  Regularly.  I just couldn't root for the guy.
 

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teddykgb said:
 
I agree with you completely.  His histrionics are unbelievable.  He high sticks a guy in the face and somehow manages to talk his way out of the penalty.  He's constantly flopping and faking, I honestly don't understand why guys don't take more runs at him.  One professional basically trying to break another's hand/wrist? These guys detest that stuff.
 
I mean, we have Marchand on our team and our fans get pretty down on him when he even approaches this line.  Subban finds the line, jumps over it, pisses on it, then moves 20 yards past it.  Regularly.  I just couldn't root for the guy.
 
He's a top 5 defenseman in the league. Marchand is lucky to crack the top 50 forwards. It'd be real easy to root for PK were he on the Bruins.
 

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He's a top 5 defenseman in the league. Marchand is lucky to crack the top 50 forwards. It'd be real easy to root for PK were he on the Bruins.
 
I know this is a very conventional wisdom and something everyone loves saying.  I'm just telling you I really disagree.  I don't particularly care how good he is (and he is very good when he isn't being a cheat or a moron), I wouldn't be able to root for him.
 

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teddykgb said:
 
I know this is a very conventional wisdom and something everyone loves saying.  I'm just telling you I really disagree.  I don't particularly care how good he is (and he is very good when he isn't being a cheat or a moron), I wouldn't be able to root for him.
 
And that's fine. Everyone has a line of what they're willing to tolerate as a sports fan. I'm just not comfortable saying that what PK does, and what Marchand, or Lucic does is all that different. I think Lucic is a punk - but I can still cheer for him.
 
Subban has the potential to be the best D in the league, and right now he's not that far away. He also seems like a complete class act off of the ice. I can deal with a little theatrics on the ice for his level of performance. You may not be able to. 
 

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TheShynessClinic said:
 
And that's fine. Everyone has a line of what they're willing to tolerate as a sports fan. I'm just not comfortable saying that what PK does, and what Marchand, or Lucic does is all that different. I think Lucic is a punk - but I can still cheer for him.
 
Subban has the potential to be the best D in the league, and right now he's not that far away. He also seems like a complete class act off of the ice. I can deal with a little theatrics on the ice for his level of performance. You may not be able to. 
 
Difference is that Lucic will back his garbage up, unlike the other two you mentioned.
 

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Theatrics is one thing, but that was a blatant attempt to injure one of the hottest players in the league in the playoffs. He went right for the unpadded area on the wrist, away from the play. That's on another level. They did the same thing to Chara last year, and I believe took a shot at someone else the same way...maybe Krejci?
 

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I grew tired of Lucic's antics a long time ago. I'm counting down the days to his free agency; he's a punk that's easily set off, is weak mentally, and occassionally doesn't even put the effort in. Marchand has seemingly at least put an effort to back off a bit. He'll still cross the line once in a while, but he doesn't skate on it all the time anymore.
 

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That area, too, is unpadded.
Nailed it. I hate Subban too, but it's probably because he plays for the Canadiens and dives way too much. However, Lucic as seen above and Marchand are also douchebags on the ice as well.
 

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Nailed it. I hate Subban too, but it's probably because he plays for the Canadiens and dives way too much. However, Lucic as seen above and Marchand are also douchebags on the ice as well.
 
I would argue that for every single Marchand or Lucic incident you'll likely find 5 of them from Subban.  But Subban's are far more likely to be him exaggerating being hit or outright flopping, in addition to his cheap shots and intent to injure hits.
 
And at the very least, Marchand has an X on his back from refs, who tend to err on the side of assuming he deserves it and he ends up in the box.  Just this season, Marchand had  95 PIM to Subban's 74 PIM in spite of Subban having an extra 10 minutes a game on the ice.  You'd at least expect the refs would be sort of hip to his game by now and treat him accordingly yet somehow this guy continually does and gets away with this stuff.
 

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I'm trying to figure out which crew from Rogers/CBC/HNiC got that series. At first, I thought it was the crew that does their Saturday night games on City, but it doesn't quite sound right to be them. Regardless, yeah, they came off in just the highlights as a Montreal home crew and not a national voice.
 
That was Paul Romanuk, Mike Johnson, and Glenn Healy.  Romanuk usually does Leafs games but also did PBP for the Habs from 98-2001 for TSN.  Mike Johnson was working strictly English broadcasts of Habs games in the previous TV deal but I'm not sure what he usually does now.
 

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I'd really love to hear Quintal's explanation on how that was just a penalty and not a deliberate intent to injure. Wait, don't bother, because unlike the early Shanaban days, we won't see a video exonerating Subban. It's back to the Campbell dartboard days.
 

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Bryan Murray says Subban threatened Stone twice before the slash. The Sens are quite upset about this. Melnyk has the forensic investigators from the Karlsson/Cooke incident on standby, I presume.

He also says there is ligament damage. Not looking good for Stone returning.
 

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You basically can't put Stone back in with a jerry rigged wrist, because the Habs will target it and probably break it before the series is over.
 

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The Habs are certainly detestable but with Ottawa everything is some massive conspiracy against them or their players.  Ergo, they both suck.
 

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Everybody think Rangers/Pens is a walk over for NYR as is being perceived?
 
No Kris Letang for the Penguins makes it a mighty mighty difficult proposition.  
 

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Pens have much better ES numbers, so they should have a chance. They generally control play and it's tough to say a Crosby/Malkin team is going to get rolled. The did look very disinterested down the stretch though, and they won't have Letang.

Also, Fleury probably already crapped his pants today in the hotel room when he woke up and realized it is a playoff day. That'll be tough for Pittsburgh to overcome.
 

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Greg29fan said:
The Habs are certainly detestable but with Ottawa everything is some massive conspiracy against them or their players.  Ergo, they both suck.
 
Totally man, thinking that Subban meant to injure someone by swinging his stick like a lumberjack at their wrist is pretty much on par with being a 9/11 truther.
 

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Totally man, thinking that Subban meant to injure someone by swinging his stick like a lumberjack at their wrist is pretty much on par with being a 9/11 truther.
I'm not normally this guy, but unless I'm missing sarcasm somewhere...

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Fucking blatant attempt to injure from Subban.  Fucking puck is nowhere near the play and he slashes Stone right on the wrist where there's no padding at all.  You can fucking tell they had this shit planned out before the game too.
 

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I'd really love to hear Quintal's explanation on how that was just a penalty and not a deliberate intent to injure. Wait, don't bother, because unlike the early Shanaban days, we won't see a video exonerating Subban. It's back to the Campbell dartboard days.
Not to mention he played roughly half his career in mon and pk is a repeat offender, if that doesn't warrant at least an extra game what does?
 

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MiracleOfO2704 said:
I'm not normally this guy, but unless I'm missing sarcasm somewhere...
 
 
Eller butt ended Zibanejad in the neck, Subban tomahawk chopped Stone on the wrist... I'm thinking that there was more likely than not some discussion about how they're going to go after the other team a lot more aggressively than usual.
 

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Not to mention he played roughly half his career in mon and pk is a repeat offender, if that doesn't warrant at least an extra game what does?
Honestly, Quintal's playing career isn't a factor to me. In fact, Colin Campbell was in a worse position his last couple years because he's have to recuse himself from disciplinary actions if his son played on a team involved (hence, Mike Murphy working the Chara non-suspension in 2011).

Now, PK being given a slap on the wrist for two-handing an opponent considering he's been before DPS before? That's questionable.
 

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cshea said:
Pens have much better ES numbers, so they should have a chance. They generally control play and it's tough to say a Crosby/Malkin team is going to get rolled. The did look very disinterested down the stretch though, and they won't have Letang.

Also, Fleury probably already crapped his pants today in the hotel room when he woke up and realized it is a playoff day. That'll be tough for Pittsburgh to overcome.
 
They certainly have a chance but it'll take a huge effort. No Letang, as mentioned, is critical and I don't think the Pens can hope Fleury carries them, like Henrik carried them against the Pens last year.
 

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I can't bring myself to watch even one second of NYR/PIT. I hate that Pittsburgh is in this tournament so much. Four game sweep.
 
Go Lightning. Go Senators.