Dion Lewis out 8-10 weeks

[RedOctober3829]

Jim McBride ‏@globejimmcbride 26s27 seconds ago
BREAKING: #Patriots RB Dion Lewis needs 2d knee surgery, league source confirms. Timetable for his return is uncertain. Tore ACL last Nov. 8


NOT GOOD!!!!!! Need to go out and trade for a RB.

 

[MuppetAsteriskTalk]

Wow this sucks.

 

[ifmanis5]

Terrible news. Based on his injury history I don't have much hope for him.

 

[the1andonly3003]

is this real? Are we sure Jim Mcbride's twitter account wasn't hacked? 3 shots in 10 minutes

can we sit the core this season and have them rested for 17-18? enclose them in bubble wrap?

ugh

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

Career likely over in any meaningful way. Guy's body is just not durable enough for the NFL. It's too bad, he is very talented.

 

[RedOctober3829]

I'd like to see exactly what kind of surgery he needs. Is it just to clean some things up or is it something worse? He looked fine during the spring and then poof he never appeared again. I wonder if he re-tore it during summer workouts. That's my worst fear.

 

[DaveRoberts'Shoes]

Best-case scenario is a partial menisectomy, back in 4-6 weeks. Worst case is a revision ACL, which would put his return to football at any point in serious jeopardy

 

[jacklamabe65]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 6s6 seconds ago
NE RB Dion Lewis needs clean-up knee surgery that will sideline him indefinitely, as @globejimmcbride reports. Still could return this year.

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[Ed Hillel]

Curran says 8-10 weeks. I will take that.

 

[amarshal2]

"Surgery Lewis needs does not involve the ACL. Will have 8-10 week recovery time."

 

[RedOctober3829]

"Surgery Lewis needs does not involve the ACL. Will have 8-10 week recovery time."

10 weeks would take us to Halloween. PUP involves missing the first 6 weeks of the season then they haven an additional 5 weeks to start practicing. After 6 weeks of the regular season the date is October 17th. That puts him in the range of possibly practicing after coming off PUP if he's ready. Another positive aspect of this timeframe is that the bye week is Week 9 which is the first week of November.

Depending on when the surgery takes place(if it hasn't already taken place), the possibility exists that he could be ready to play when the Patriots come off the bye in Week 10 against Seattle.

 

[Van Everyman]

Could another positive be that he will be fresher down the stretch? Between Lewis last year and Sammy Morris in 2007, I feel like the team has lost key RBs as the season has gone on in years they should have won the SB if they'd been able to stay healthy.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Could another positive be that he will be fresher down the stretch? Between Lewis last year and Sammy Morris in 2007, I feel like the team has lost key RBs as the season has gone on in years they should have won the SB if they'd been able to stay healthy.

Yes, it is a positive but with Lewis not playing in a game in an entire calendar year by that point it's tough to say how much rust he'll have.

 

[Van Everyman]

Agree. Also, I have to think he will have more problems that simple "rust" coming back from an ACL tear. I would imagine it will take some time before he trusts his cuts, etc. Still, I'd rather have a compromised Dion Lewis on the roster come playoff time than be hoping that Steven Jackson finds some magic in his 63 year-old body.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Agree. Also, I have to think he will have more problems that simple "rust" coming back from an ACL tear. I would imagine it will take some time before he trusts his cuts, etc. Still, I'd rather have a compromised Dion Lewis on the roster come playoff time than be hoping that Steven Jackson finds some magic in his 63 year-old body.

Totally agree. When he comes back, it will undoubtedly be in a reduced role to get his feet wet. The rest of the regular season will almost be a training camp/preseason style usage for him hopefully getting him ready for the playoffs.

 

[johnmd20]

Son o beetch. Lewis is fun to watch, poor guy.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Totally agree. When he comes back, it will undoubtedly be in a reduced role to get his feet wet. The rest of the regular season will almost be a training camp/preseason style usage for him hopefully getting him ready for the playoffs.

I'd love to get a fresh Lewis back week 10, give him a few snaps but for the most part hold him back unless needed and have him healthy and rested after the Bye. Likely he comes back and either reinjures himself or lost a lot of his explosiveness unfortunately.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Any chance BB takes a look at the recently released Karlos Williams? It would be a great way to stick it to Rexy and the Bills but it sounds like Williams really porked out in the off season.

 

[RedOctober3829]

I'd love to get a fresh Lewis back week 10, give him a few snaps but for the most part hold him back unless needed and have him healthy and rested after the Bye. Likely he comes back and either reinjures himself or lost a lot of his explosiveness unfortunately.

White's performance last year and also in preseason give me comfort that not a lot will be lost in the passing game with Lewis' absence. They desperately need somebody to pair with Blount rushing the football. Bishop Sankey is somebody I'd be interested in seeing if he's available. The Patriots and Titans have made deals in the past and the Titans don't really need him given the signing of Murray and the draft pick of Derrick Henry.

 

[JohnnyK]

Any chance BB takes a look at the recently released Karlos Williams? It would be a great way to stick it to Rexy and the Bills

Yeah, that's how BB does business...

 

[PaSox]

Karlos Williams is suspended for the first four weeks of the season http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17354153/buffalo-bills-release-rb-karlos-williams-one-season

 

[Stitch01]

Sucks but if he is healthy later in the year not the end of the world. Doubt they trade for a running back, there's enough talent at that position in house.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Karlos Williams is suspended for the first four weeks of the season http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17354153/buffalo-bills-release-rb-karlos-williams-one-season

Can we stop the Karlos Williams train?

The man could compete with Pot Roast in who can displace most water in a cold tub and has worse discipline than Jonas Gray. 2015 version of Karlos WIlliams is no longer with us and most likely never come back except in 2015 Bills Season Review videos.

 

[Pxer]

Bad news. I second the proposed targeting of Bishop Sankey. He could be a good fit with this team.

 

[Saints Rest]

I imagine this just opens up a spot for Develin and/or Gaffney. Reports I've been reading on patriots.com make it sound like Gaffney might be making Blount's spot tenuous, but I haven't read anything since Lewis went down.

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/22/ronnie-hillman-appears-unlikely-to-make-broncos-53-man-roster/

Ronnie Hillman is facing up uphill climb to a roster spot in Denver. He is only 24 years old, almost the exact same size as James White and have been productive in the NFL (over 800 rushing yards last year in a time share with Anderson). He did not do the 3Cone drill at the combine or the shuttle, but he did run a 4.45 and leaped 37 inches. He has caught 21 and 24 passes in his last two NFL seasons, which surprised me. I thought they threw to him more then that. But on the flip side he has been less then durable, only played 16 games in 1 out of 4 NFL seasons and has some fumble history (8 fumbles in 48 career games).

I don't know if Hillman is going to be a guy the Pats would or would not be interested in, but it's reassuring to know that there will likely be passable options available before week 1. (Though it pains me that DJ Foster has been hurt, I had pre-ordained him my preseason binkie. This could have been his moment to shine!)

 

[Erik Hanson's Hook]

It's his running style (Lewis). All those jump cuts put so much pressure on the knees. They also contribute to gang tackles, since he is often making the first defender miss. I saw this coming even before he got hurt last year.

Agreed on Lewis. I think he could be the best overall back they've had in years.

Two concerns: 1) the fumbling, obviously. And 2) his ability to stay healthy. His running style, and the way he makes people miss, IMO means that he's going to get gang-tackled a lot. Extra hits on the way down, etc. He's gonna get beat up (those extra hits could also be related to fumbling). I could also see one of those jump cuts causing a nice little ACL/MCL blow out, but hey, that's the way he runs, and it's effective. I'll be surprised if he lasts the whole season, but would be thrilled to be wrong.

It's a shame, because he was a great talent in this system.

 

[The Mort Report]

Why does everyone want to look outside this team for a replacement? Is James White not shiny enough anymore? If someone is brought in they will then have to learn the intricacies of a very difficult play book in less than a month. We've all seen many players with full off seasons not pick it up. White knows the playbook and he's looked good this summer. Why burn assets for something that probably won't even be an upgrade

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Why does everyone want to look outside this team for a replacement? Is James White not shiny enough anymore? If someone is brought in they will then have to learn the intricacies of a very difficult play book in less than a month. We've all seen many players with full off seasons not pick it up. White knows the playbook and he's looked good this summer. Why burn assets for something that probably won't even be an upgrade

Agreed. The best thing they can do for the running game is get and somehow keep the OL in order.

 

[EL Jeffe]

The problem with James White is 291 snaps/22 carries/56 rushing yards. If James White is in the game, the defense doesn't have to respect the run. He's fine in the passing game, but it's a huge key for the defense to know if James White is in the game, play the pass. Sure, you still have to stop the New England passing attack, but knowing you don't have to respect the run makes it easier.

 

[koufax32]

Why does everyone want to look outside this team for a replacement? Is James White not shiny enough anymore? If someone is brought in they will then have to learn the intricacies of a very difficult play book in less than a month. We've all seen many players with full off seasons not pick it up. White knows the playbook and he's looked good this summer. Why burn assets for something that probably won't even be an upgrade

Wasn't the concern with him related to blocking/blitz pickup? Am I making this up?

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

Last season James White fell down after receiving a handoff from a stiff breeze. In the open field he has shown he can be a dynamic player. But he has shown zero ability to be any type of threat running the football. They haven't really given him many handoffs in pre-season games and I don't know if anyone has seen any updates from training camp, but unless he shows some ability to run through arm tackles then he is nothing but a one-dimensional player. Albeit an exciting 1 dimension. Hopefully he added some strength this off season and can be at least a passable threat to take a handful and churn out 4-5 tough yards if needed.

 

[Bergs]

The problem with James White is that he sucks

Ftfy

 

[Eck'sSneakyCheese]

It sucks to lose the type of dynamic ability that Lewis brings to the field. It was evident last year when he went down. White might be able to match what he does receiving but their games are miles apart on the ground. The silver lining for me anyway is that I think this opens the door for Gaffney to make the team without having to make a difficult cut. Hopefully in the next couple games we can see what Gaffney looks like with the one's.

 

[joe dokes]

The problem with James White is 291 snaps/22 carries/56 rushing yards. If James White is in the game, the defense doesn't have to respect the run. He's fine in the passing game, but it's a huge key for the defense to know if James White is in the game, play the pass. Sure, you still have to stop the New England passing attack, but knowing you don't have to respect the run makes it easier.

Brandon Bolden was more of a running threat on passing downs than White.