Amazing and stupid. I figured this would happen and it’s just another reason I’m glad I am not watching this meltdown.Yes, I saw this, I think it was the A's grand slam in the 10th.
Why is this a problem? Aren't group message chains effectively how the U.S. decided to reopen its economy over the past few months?
Wasn't exactly my impression the owners actually wanted to play this year. The strike/lockout at the end of the CBA is going to be epic.
What I’d like to hear is why the Marlins played a game with over 10% of its roster having tested positive and a bunch of other tests outstanding. What was the protocol that was followed and what, if anything, might have caused them to cancel that game if not the situation present at the time. Why, as Don Mattingly said, was the idea of cancelling the game “never considered” before today’s Marlins COVID-19 outbreak?[/quote/
Also, this is batshit:The operations manual says that after a player tests positive for COVID-19, the club must conduct contact tracing to identify the individuals who had close contact with the infected individual. The Marlins flew together to Philadelphia from Atlanta, traveled by bus to a Center City hotel, traveled by bus to the ballpark, dressed in the clubhouse, and sat in the dugout.
It could be easily argued that every Marlins player and staff member came in close contact over the weekend with the infected players. If so, the operations manual says those individuals should be quarantined or isolated pending the results of an Expedited Diagnostic Test, which the Marlins received Sunday morning. Instead of quarantining and thus postponing Sunday’s game, the Marlins played a 3-hour, 44-minute game against the Phillies and then learned Monday morning that eight additional players had tested positive.
The Marlins learned Sunday morning that their starting pitcher for the afternoon and two other players had tested positive for COVID-19 and would be unable to play. An apparent coronavirus outbreak was underway in the visiting clubhouse at Citizens Bank Park and the Marlins responded by asking their shortstop to determine if the game against the Phillies would be played.
“He’s kind of an unofficial team captain of our club,” Marlins manager Don Mattingly said of Miguel Rojas. “He’s always texting the group and getting the feelings of the group. So when we’re dealing with situations or things, that’s usually who we’re working through.”
“We made the decision that we’re going to continue to do this and we’re going to continue to be responsible and just play the game as hard as we can,” Rojas said.
This is absolutely unbelievable that there isn't a protocol to follow other than letting the team decide. I mean where the hell is the leadership from MLB and the Marlins' front office? Did they tell the Phillies this was going on? If I'm Philly, I'm pissed.
MLB will say that marlins broke protocol. Nothing to see here. Except I think you still have 13 infected Marlins even if they don’t play yesterday. Yesterday’s game just means there might be more positives within a couple days, right?
It's even more absurd than that! It's like asking Miguel Rojas for medical advice.It’s absurd that the players/coaches would decide anything. No different than asking a pitcher who is laboring whether he can get the next guy out.
That's not quite how I took that story, but the fact we're not sure is in and of itself insane. It sounds to me that once you get a positive diagnosis, everyone who has been in close contact is supposed to quarantine until they get the "Expedited Diagnostic Test." The Inquirer says they got that Sunday morning, but it's not clear to me what the results were.This is absolutely unbelievable that there isn't a protocol to follow other than letting the team decide. I mean where the hell is the leadership from MLB and the Marlins' front office? Did they tell the Phillies this was going on? If I'm Philly, I'm pissed.
Covi2It's circumstantial, but I understand Derek Jeter hasn't always been forthcoming with info on viruses he's harboring.
There's plenty of blame to go around. Hell, even if he had gone to management and said, "We shouldn't be playing," and been shot down and told to put a team out there.Donnie Baseball is a fucking moron.
The smallpox ssLetting the shortstop decide whether to play ball, expose the opponent, and nuke the season after half the team tested positive or were waiting for results has to be up there with dumbest actions in the history of baseball.
Absolutely ... and I think that if the EdRo situation had gotten more play -- or if it had happened to a higher-profile player -- there might be no games at allBut there are presumably a lot of players who were on the edge as to whether they wanted to play (e.g. Trout) who might just decide to change their minds in light of this situation.
I"ve been feeling this entire time that this season is a ridiculous idea, and the way this has been handled clinches it. It's a failure at all levels, from the top of the MLB down to the way the owners are dealing with their clubs down to what's happening in the clubhouse with players and managers. We (this country) are clearly not responsible enough for this shit.There's plenty of blame to go around. Hell, even if he had gone to management and said, "We shouldn't be playing," and been shot down and told to put a team out there.
Don’t you have to dock the Pats a draft pick and suspend Brady as well?Bravo.
The only fitting penalty for the Marlins is to vacate the MFY WS championships won by their ownership.
YepI"ve been feeling this entire time that this season is a ridiculous idea, and the way this has been handled clinches it. It's a failure at all levels, from the top of the MLB down to the way the owners are dealing with their clubs down to what's happening in the clubhouse with players and managers. We (this country) are clearly not responsible enough for this shit.
How many years of med school does one have to complete before getting the unofficial team captain designation? Is it between residency and fellowship?
Between that and his expert opinion on Fauci's credibility, it was a stellar postYou're really trotting out "throws like a girl" in 2020? Great look.
At least a semester at Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.How many years of med school does one have to complete before getting the unofficial team captain designation? Is it between residency and fellowship?
Before I eviscerate you, I'm going to give you a chance to walk this back.So, they had 3 players who they knew were positive and presumably at least 8 more tests pending results - and they left it up to their shortstop as to whether or not they should play??
I am probably one of the very few (perhaps the only one here) who thinks Covid is a tad overblown and that some of the things put into place are ridiculous, but this is so incredibly stupid that it seems unfathomable that this was how they actually went about this. It is beyond irresponsible, and I am assuming that the Phillies were totally in the dark here.
IF this is the actual story, they should be absolutely fined, lose a draft pick or something like that and just be forced to quarantine the entire team the next 14 days or until they get 2 negative tests on every player/staff member and just take a loss for every game they are missing.
Also, the fact that apparently nobody at the MLB level is overseeing test results is pretty incredulous. We test every employee here, every week. I certainly do not leave it up to the individual employee to let me know their results. The stupidity that MLB has shown throughout all of this (including the disaster of having only a 60 game schedule) is pathetic. Manfred is awful.
This makes me so happy that the NBA is doing what it is doing with the bubble and the league overseeing the entire thing. It's too early to spike the football and declare it a success, but it has a hell of a lot better chance of working out than having teams and players policing themselves.So, they had 3 players who they knew were positive and presumably at least 8 more tests pending results - and they left it up to their shortstop as to whether or not they should play??
I am probably one of the very few (perhaps the only one here) who thinks Covid is a tad overblown and that some of the things put into place are ridiculous, but this is so incredibly stupid that it seems unfathomable that this was how they actually went about this. It is beyond irresponsible, and I am assuming that the Phillies were totally in the dark here.
IF this is the actual story, they should be absolutely fined, lose a draft pick or something like that and just be forced to quarantine the entire team the next 14 days or until they get 2 negative tests on every player/staff member and just take a loss for every game they are missing.
Also, the fact that apparently nobody at the MLB level is overseeing test results is pretty incredulous. We test every employee here, every week. I certainly do not leave it up to the individual employee to let me know their results. The stupidity that MLB has shown throughout all of this (including the disaster of having only a 60 game schedule) is pathetic. Manfred is awful.
Yep. When people show you who they are, believe them.Between that and his expert opinion on Fauci's credibility, it was a stellar post
He's said it a whole bunch of times before, you just haven't noticed. Agree that it is infuriating and if I were a Dope, it would make me seriously think about pulling out the ban hammer. Oh wait...Before I eviscerate you, I'm going to give you a chance to walk this back.
I've lost two friends to this overblown pandemic. If you'd like, I can try to put you in touch with their families so you can share your opinion.I am probably one of the very few (perhaps the only one here) who thinks Covid is a tad overblown and that some of the things put into place are ridiculous
Likewise, @NJ_Sox_Fan I can have you speak to my niece, who said breathing was like drowning for two months straight. Breathe in and then breathe out. See how easy that is? Imagine feeling like you're drowning with each breath, for two months straight. I can have you talk to my brother in law, whose sense of taste has been fucked up since February.I've lost three friends to this overblown pandemic. If you'd like, I can try to put you in touch with their families so you can share your opinion.
At least he doesn’t work with a vulnerable population, like in a nursing home...oh wait.He's said it a whole bunch of times before, you just haven't noticed. Agree that it is infuriating and if I were a Dope, it would make me seriously think about pulling out the ban hammer. Oh wait...
Bingo, I couldn't believe the proximity of players in the dugout and the lack of masks in the stands. I can just imagine how much distancing is going on in the clubhouse.Maybe now they will be more aggressive at requiring masking around home plate and requiring players to actually sit spread out in the stands like they were supposed to
I did not say it was fake, or not deadly. I will give a specific. In NJ, we still do not have indoor dining, however liquor stores never closed. Malls are open. Etc. So, if you can shop in a mall, where everyone touches everything, how can you not be safe to eat indoors, with spaced out tables. It makes zero sense.I've lost two friends to this overblown pandemic. If you'd like, I can try to put you in touch with their families so you can share your opinion.
Alternatively, maybe now MLB will be more aggressive at pretending their virus planning entailed more than the power of positive thinking or consulting journeymen middle infielders for protocol guidelines.Maybe now they will be more aggressive at requiring masking around home plate and requiring players to actually sit spread out in the stands like they were supposed to
So, anyone heard what plan the Braves and the Governor of Georgia have come up with?
No reason for them not to if everyone involved is in the clear (passed their latest test). As of now, the two games not being played tonight are being classified as postponed. They're also both part of home-and-home series so presumably they could be made up with a double header later in the week.Seems like the rest of the games are going on as scheduled?
Marlins played the Braves, who played the Mets, who are coming to Boston.