Charlotte Loses ASG Over HB2

[DJnVa]

with people that don’t share the organs they were Bourne (sic) with, this is plain wrong

 

[bibajesus]

Is that a picture of him peeking through the stall door to check if all the parts match up?

 

[joe dokes]

So that's the hidden meaning of "The Bourne Identity."

 

[moly99]

In a sense you are right. But its in the same sense that Brown v Board and the Civil Rights Act made it "harder" for southern blacks. Wherever the push starts, it will be returned. But it has to start somewhere.

Brown vs Board was a supreme court case, which is exactly what I am arguing for. Or national legislation like the Civil Rights Act.

The only thing gained by antagonistic local activism (whether it is right wing ranchers occupying a national wildlife refuge or left wing students occupying wall street) is personal catharsis. To win the argument you need to win over the center, and moderates are turned off by this sort of thing.

This is a very, very old argument. If you want to waste a couple of hours google "propaganda of the deed."

 

[HomeRunBaker]

And draws like 1/4 the viewership of a Finals game, which also pulls in a ton of celebreties and entertainers.

It sounds like we are talking about two different things. I'm not talking about tv ratings and viewers.....I'm referring to a full one-week of a variety of events with sponsors that are planned 2 years in advance. All-Star week draws a ton more people to the area than an NBA Finals and the revenue that the host city receives to their economy is far greater than what a Finals brings in due to the massive amount of fans, players, coaches, NBA alumni, celebrities, etc who lock up hotel rooms well in advance of that week.

 

[crystalline]

Brown vs Board was a supreme court case, which is exactly what I am arguing for. Or national legislation like the Civil Rights Act.

The only thing gained by antagonistic local activism (whether it is right wing ranchers occupying a national wildlife refuge or left wing students occupying wall street) is personal catharsis. To win the argument you need to win over the center, and moderates are turned off by this sort of thing.

This is a very, very old argument. If you want to waste a couple of hours google "propaganda of the deed."

Right, you're referring to actions of a minority. And saying that national legislation is effective because it reflects in some ways a majority view.

Gay and transgender rights, however, are nearly a majority view in many parts of the country (see Maine), and if anything the law restricting rights is the appeal to a minority. Since the weight of both history and demographic change is on the side of LGBT rights, the NBA is taking the side of the future consensus. Moving the game seems a lot like Jackie Robinson to me.

Also, this law wasn't passed to address a pressing problem. There was no populist swell calling for this law to be created to protect someone. The law was created to stoke hate for political advantage. To the extent the NBA action discourages future hatemongering and divisiveness in our politics, it will be a good thing.

 

[mauf]

Also, this law wasn't passed to address a pressing problem. There was no populist swell calling for this law to be created to protect someone. The law was created to stoke hate for political advantage. To the extent the NBA action discourages future hatemongering and divisiveness in our politics, it will be a good thing.

Exactly right. No one is saying North Carolina needs to be on the progressive edge of the LGBT rights movement (Louisiana certainly is not), but states and localities that pass reactionary legislation should pay an economic price. The resulting deterrent effect will protect LGBT people who would otherwise be on the receiving end of such legislation.

That said, moly99 is either concern trolling us or is shockingly ignorant about how the movement for African-American civil rights played out. (Spoiler alert: it didn't involve politely sitting on the back of the bus and kowtowing to local preferences until a national majority supporting progressive civil rights legislation magically emerged.)