CFB 2023 Conference Championships: A thread enjoying five major conference championship games for the last time

Kremlin Watcher · Nov 28, 2023

We won the first Big XII crown in ‘96. Would be a fitting end to win the last one on our way out before we start winning SEC titles.

tims4wins · Nov 28, 2023

Very, very hard to see Iowa upsetting Michigan. Their offense is just so bad. Their D should keep them in the game - to a degree - but I think Michigan gets into the mid-20s and holds Iowa under 10. I do think Iowa will cover though, and that it will go under 35.5. Something like 24-9 Michigan.

Ale Xander · Nov 28, 2023

Oregon favored by 9.5 on a neutral field sums it all up.

Ale Xander · Nov 28, 2023

tims4wins said:
Very, very hard to see Iowa upsetting Michigan. Their offense is just so bad. Their D should keep them in the game - to a degree - but I think Michigan gets into the mid-20s and holds Iowa under 10. I do think Iowa will cover though, and that it will go under 35.5. Something like 24-9 Michigan.

I have it as 26-3 Michigan

tims4wins · Nov 28, 2023

Ale Xander said:
I have it as 26-3 Michigan

Gun to your head, you taking or giving the 23.5?

canderson · Nov 28, 2023

Hook 'em! Would be really nice to have eternal scoreboard over every remaining Big 12 team.

Also go Louisville and Washington.

Ale Xander · Nov 28, 2023

tims4wins said:
Gun to your head, you taking or giving the 23.5?

I probably try and take the gun back.

Kremlin Watcher · Nov 28, 2023

Hard to see a path to the playoff though. Oregon and Washington ahead of us makes it unlikely for us to jump over both of them so we need bad losses by Florida State and Michigan to have a shot and I don’t see both of them losing. A Bama win over Georgia might help but the committee is so enamored of the SEC that they might put the Tide ahead of us in that case although that would be crazy. My view is that we likely end up 5th which sucks but after the last decade of wandering in the wilderness we can be happy that we finally got it together.

nolasoxfan · Nov 28, 2023

Awesome Fossum said:
I think they just need Florida State to lose. They'd definitely jump a 2-loss Oregon and I think they'd jump a 1-loss Washington as well; the conference championship ought to be enough of a differentiator, imo.

Plus, if you want to get conspiratorial, do we really think ESPN's invitational is going to include a third 2024 Big 10 team (media rights held by FOX, CBS, NBC) or a second 2024 SEC team (media rights held by ESPN).

With only the PAC-12 Championship Game remaining, Oregon has only lost 1 and Washington is undefeated.
IMHO, the winner of the PAC 12 CG is in.

edit: this was definitely the year for an 8 team playoff. What a shame.

nolasoxfan · Nov 28, 2023

Kremlin Watcher said:
Hard to see a path to the playoff though. Oregon and Washington ahead of us makes it unlikely for us to jump over both of them so we need bad losses by Florida State and Michigan to have a shot and I don’t see both of them losing. A Bama win over Georgia might help but the committee is so enamored of the SEC that they might put the Tide ahead of us in that case although that would be crazy. My view is that we likely end up 5th which sucks but after the last decade of wandering in the wilderness we can be happy that we finally got it together.

I think Texas is in with losses by Washington and Fla. St— in which case, Oregon to 3 and Texas to 4.
What you don’t want is for Alabama to beat Georgia.

edit: then again, I know little to nothing here.

Ale Xander · Nov 28, 2023

Georgia 1 seed v Texas 4 seed looks attractive as a future SEC CG preview so to speak, both handing Bama each of their losses. (Both of course have to win their CG)
Michigan Oregon 2-3 also looks good (if both win)
FSU has to lose though

nolasoxfan · Nov 28, 2023

Awesome Fossum said:
Who do you think gets in if FSU loses but Washington wins? Assuming UGA and UM win as well.

Texas = hope; tOSU = think

Honestly, I’m just waiting for a year in which conference championships matter.

edit: keep in mind, I was under sedation less than 90 minutes ago.

nolasoxfan · Nov 28, 2023

Awesome Fossum said:
Ok ... so why would tOSU get in if Washington wins but Texas would get in if Oregon wins?

Gut feeling…and the anesthesia.
Too many questions. Now I need a nap.

Ale Xander · Nov 28, 2023

Awesome Fossum said:
Who do you think gets in if FSU loses but Washington wins? Assuming UGA and UM win as well.

Washington and Texas

bbc23 · Nov 28, 2023

12-1 conference champion Texas is not getting left behind by non-conference champion Ohio State. I have absolutely no concern about that and winning your conference does matter a lot. The scenario where things get weird is if Bama wins. Clearly Bama has to leapfrog Georgia but the committee has shown that head to head still holds a lot of weight when they put in Cincy over Notre Dame. If that's the case and you have Michigan/Washington/FSU/Texas win would an SEC team actually not make the playoff?

snowmanny · Nov 28, 2023

My opinion, and I know the contrary argument but don’t buy it, is that it would be dumb to have Ohio State leapfrog Michigan if Iowa won. I think if Michigan loses it’s likely, and depending on the outcomes of the other games probably appropriate, that no Big Ten team gets in to the playoff.

Kremlin Watcher · Nov 28, 2023

Not thread-worthy but I thought this is quite funny:

Bobby Petrino back to Arkansas as OC?

CFB has a long tradition of cringe-inducing moves. This would be right up there in the high comedy division.

mauf · Nov 28, 2023

The only question is what happens if Bama beats Georgia.

If UGA wins, it’s them and the P12 champ, with Michigan and Florida State controlling their destiny for the other two spots. Texas gets in if they win and one of those two lose. tOSU gets in only if FSU and Texas both lose. (If only one of those two lose, and Michigan loses also, UM backs into the #4 spot based on the H2H win over Michigan tOSU.)

If Bama upsets Georgia and Texas also wins, it’s anyone’s guess whether the committee will put Texas ahead of Bama based on the H2H win, or Bama ahead of Texas based on a stronger overall resume. Again, Michigan and Florida State control their destiny; if one loses, the committee doesn’t have to choose between Bama and Texas. If two of Michigan/FSU/Texas lose, I think UGA backs in at #4 ahead of tOSU (or Michigan) unless UGA gets routed on Saturday.

CFB_Rules · Nov 28, 2023

bbc23 said:
If that's the case and you have Michigan/Washington/FSU/Texas win would an SEC team actually not make the playoff?

This is the chaos scenario. Michigan and Washington are 100% in if they win. Forcing the committee to choose between FSU, Texas, Alabama, and Georgia if Alabama scores the upset would be really interesting.

CFB_Rules · Nov 28, 2023

mauf said:
The only question is what happens if Bama beats Georgia.

If UGA wins, it’s them and the P12 champ, with Michigan and Florida State controlling their destiny for the other two spots. Texas gets in if they win and one of those two lose. tOSU gets in only if two of Michigan/FSU/Texas lose.

If Bama upsets Georgia and Texas also wins, it’s anyone’s guess whether the committee will put Texas ahead of Bama based on the H2H win, or Bama ahead of Texas based on a stronger overall resume. Again, Michigan and Florida State control their destiny; if one loses, the committee doesn’t have to choose between Bama and Texas. If two of Michigan/FSU/Texas lose, I think UGA backs in at #4 ahead of tOSU unless UGA gets routed on Saturday.

What happens if Michigan wins, Florida St wins, Texas wins, Bama wins, and Oregon wins? Michigan/FSU/Oregon/Bama and Georgia left out? What if FSU loses also, does that last spot go to Georgia or Ohio State? Does Ohio State have any possibly path?

mauf · Nov 28, 2023

CFB_Rules said:
What happens if Michigan wins, Florida St wins, Texas wins, Bama wins, and Oregon wins? Michigan/FSU/Oregon/Bama and Georgia left out? What if FSU loses also, does that last spot go to Georgia or Ohio State? Does Ohio State have any possibly path?

Absent a chaos scenario, I don’t see two SEC teams making it. Georgia is out if they lose unless two of Michigan/FSU/Texas also lose.

Georgia has a better back-in case than tOSU, so I think Buckeyes fans should be rooting for UGA in the SECCG and underdogs everywhere else. (Well, except the P12 championship, which is functionally a national quarterfinal.)

canderson · Nov 28, 2023

Ohio State has not beaten anyone worth a fuck except Penn State. Yet they are above Texas who beat Alabama on the road by double digits on today’s CFP rankings and two wins over T25 teams. Da fuck

Ale Xander · Nov 28, 2023

canderson said:
Ohio State has not beaten anyone with a fuck except Penn State. Yet they are above Texas who beat Alabama on the road by double digits on today’s CFP rankings and two wins over T25 teams. Da fuck

It doesn’t matter; if they beat Pokie, they’ll move above

wonderland · Nov 28, 2023

My only hope is if Georgia and Michigan lose, they are left out for playing garbage non conference schedules at the start of the year.

bbc23 · Nov 28, 2023

Ale Xander said:
It doesn’t matter; if they beat Pokie, they’ll move above

The issue is that by not being right behind Oregon it doesn't feel like there's a chance to pass them even if they blow OSU out and Oregon barely skims by

Brand Name · Nov 29, 2023

Can’t wait to be in Atlanta again this year! Annual traditional like no other*. I think Georgia and Alabama have really similar weaknesses in stopping boundary runs, so that’s Jase McClellan for Alabama if he can go and Kendall Milton for Georgia, or in the number of unique looks he give can give you. Just don’t see how the Tide stop a McConkey given his assign is probably Key. Key looked like dog shit last week at Auburn because he’s hurt. But the score does not care about injuries. Think a late play decides it truthfully, like a long run despite being backed up.

*Except of course, next season. Doing the Natty then since it’s in Atlanta.

mauf · Nov 29, 2023

bbc23 said:
The issue is that by not being right behind Oregon it doesn't feel like there's a chance to pass them even if they blow OSU out and Oregon barely skims by

The P12 is strong this year. Whoever wins Washington-Oregon is a lock, and should be.

canderson said:
Ohio State has not beaten anyone worth a fuck except Penn State. Yet they are above Texas who beat Alabama on the road by double digits on today’s CFP rankings and two wins over T25 teams. Da fuck

Texas is ranked where they are because of the strength of their conference. (B12 has the worst non-conference record among the P5 conferences this year.)

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/ncaaf_conf_Men.html

Ale Xander said:
It doesn’t matter; if they beat Pokie, they’ll move above

Correct. Conference championships matter a lot to the committee. Texas will be no worse than #5 if they win this weekend.

It will be better next year with the new format, when the difference between #4 and #5 will simply be having a first-round bye versus needing to beat a G5 team at home to reach the quarterfinals.

axx · Nov 29, 2023

Iowa's first half O/U opened at 0.5, lol.

tims4wins · Nov 29, 2023

axx said:
Iowa's first half O/U opened at 0.5, lol.

I saw that too. Unbelievable.

loshjott · Dec 1, 2023

Great paean to the Pac 12 written from the perspective on an East coast fan by Chuck Culpepper in today's Washington Post. Not sure if it is paywalled.

He's a good college football writer. I don't know if he's available to read elsewhere.

OCST · Dec 1, 2023

Of all the traditional conferences I think the death of the Pac n bothers me the most. I know some UCLA, Arizona, Stanford, and UW fans who were beyond passionate about the conference snd went out of their way to go to bars showing games in nyc, back when that took real effort. The left coast has a strong tradition of its own league going back to when Ted Williams’ PCL was not far off from a major league in its own right. It had real cultural/geographical coherence even into the era of expansion, as Utah and Colorado were natural fits and as two Rocky Mountain neighbors also continued the league’s footprint of geographical rivalry pairs.

simolarly USC/UCLA in the B1G is the signature atrocity of the death of the conference era.

and the conference title game is most meaningful Pac n title game ever?

where n= an integer between 8 and 12 inclusive

Kremlin Watcher · Dec 1, 2023

Rumors on Twitter that Rodenhouse may not play Saturday. Presumably that would be a big blow for FSU.

BaseballJones · Dec 1, 2023

Kremlin Watcher said:
Rumors on Twitter that Rodenhouse may not play Saturday. Presumably that would be a big blow for FSU.

I'm no FSU fan, but man this sucks for them. Unbeaten, but may lose out on a playoff because of QB injuries.

DJnVa · Dec 1, 2023

Penix vs. Nix kicking off soon on ABC. Fun game, and maybe a little be of extra interest for Patriots fans.

Ale Xander · Dec 1, 2023

I love Lanning but lfg Huskies just in case

DeJesus Built My Hotrod · Dec 1, 2023

Go Dawgs

SoxFanInPdx · Dec 1, 2023

Polk better be involved today

luckiestman · Dec 1, 2023

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I like this psycho coaching the Ducks. Go Ducks!

DeJesus Built My Hotrod · Dec 1, 2023

SoxFanInPdx said:
Polk better be involved today

McMillan is playing? And making plays?

Ale Xander · Dec 1, 2023

Nice throw Mac

SoxFanInPdx · Dec 1, 2023

DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
McMillan is playing? And making plays?

That caught me off guard. Nice block by Polk on it, but not what I have in mind.

Penix...whew

DJnVa · Dec 1, 2023

Ale Xander said:
Nice throw Mac

I get the joke, but that's just being on the wrong page, versus Mac just throwing it straight to DBs.

luckiestman · Dec 1, 2023

It’s actually funny how much happier Herbie sounds doing this game than last night

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