Celtics Trade Deadline Game Thread
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I know we harp on this quite a bit here but it took some real rotten luck. I have zero doubt that they win at least one if not two more titles without KG's injury. The fact that he came back to the point that they were almost able to steal the 2010 title tells me all I need to know about their chances at a three-peat. End bitter rant.
So you just don't want the Celtics to trade for a superstar then. Cause something like that + other assets is almost always going to be required to get a top 15 player
Well, there are other pretty good players that we could add to the '17 pick, not just Brown. But man, Paul George...
Hmm. I wonder if Philly put a deadline on the offer knowing Boston was sniffing around Bogut or if Boston told Dallas they were out because they're looking elsewhere.
Wow, that is highway robbery for Nerlens. Teams who are sellers, Philly/Sac, aren't getting near what they expected for sign-ability risk players. Drop that PG13 price.
I'm not mad at Bogut for money. Note he won't play any meaningful minutes for Boston because he will be on the bench with a toe-tag. But as long as he costs nothing but Wyc's long green its fine.
David AldridgeVerified account@daldridgetnt 8s9 seconds ago
Philly likely re-routing Andrew Bogut, just acquired from Dallas w/Justin Anderson & pick for Nerlens Noel. Boston possibility, per source.
Philly likely re-routing Andrew Bogut, just acquired from Dallas w/Justin Anderson & pick for Nerlens Noel. Boston possibility, per source.
People think that's robbery for Noel? They got a promising young player and a mid-1st for half a season of Noel and the right to match if he gets maxed, that's about what I expected, maybe more.
That's the 2017 protection. That's not conveying this year. We'll see what happens after.
Could they sign him without the TPE? I think they'd have to trade for him.
NBA contracts usually have offset so buyout guys sign for the minimum since they get paid the same either way.
Sam AmickVerified account@sam_amick 16s16 seconds ago
Say this about Boston: strong sense they're all-in on maximizing this current Isaiah Thomas-led group now, v. being intoxicated by draft
Say this about Boston: strong sense they're all-in on maximizing this current Isaiah Thomas-led group now, v. being intoxicated by draft
Matching rights are worth a lot. I think Noel can be a starter for a contending team, and it's not clear to me that Noel can't work with Embiid.
I'm kind of bummed the Celtics didn't beat this offer.
I don't think they're worth that much for a player like Noel unless you have him valued at a VERY high salary, or have no cap space and don't care how much he costs. A lot of teams really don't like his health, and haven't going all the way back to the draft. His attitude has been a concern, and the new cap hold numbers mean that the advantage of holding his RFA rights, making a signing then going way over to keep him is much harder. A promising wing and a mid (or better) 1st is very good value. A comparable Celtics trade would be tough to find, basically Rozier maybe? and a 1st, but all the non-BKN 1sts are much worse than that DAL pick likely is.
This is really worrisome, the odds of an upgraded Celtics team getting past the Cavs and then beating GSW this year are negligible IMO...ugh.
Keep the picks, grab Fultz/Jackson this year, a big in next years draft (BK pick), and roll from there.
Based on what I'm reading a Bogut buyout isn't as likely as it seems because another under-the-floor team could claim him for the cost savings and cost Philly quite a bit of money in the process. If a team wants him, they'll probably have to acquire him today.
I wonder if Danny is dangling the 2018 Brooklyn pick right now in the hopes of nabbing one of George/Butler and keeping that possible #1 pick in the upcoming draft? I don't think either team will bite, so it'll be interesting to see if Danny lets the '17 pick go for one of these guys.
I'm fine either way. I'd love George or Butler, but the consolation prize of a solid team with two potential #1 picks on the way isn't bad, either. Hopefully Danny doesn't overpay because he's in a good spot no matter what direction he goes.
I'm fine either way. I'd love George or Butler, but the consolation prize of a solid team with two potential #1 picks on the way isn't bad, either. Hopefully Danny doesn't overpay because he's in a good spot no matter what direction he goes.
Man, I would love PG13 to Boston, if only to cock-block Magic.
Also: a 1-5 of IT-Bradley-Crowder-George-Horford (with Bogut mixed in occasionally for size and D) could totally give the Cavs problems. One of the big advantages of George over Butler (or Jaylen Brown) is that at 6-10 he's plenty big to play the 4 in today's NBA.
Jaylen and BKN 2018? I'd do it.
Also: a 1-5 of IT-Bradley-Crowder-George-Horford (with Bogut mixed in occasionally for size and D) could totally give the Cavs problems. One of the big advantages of George over Butler (or Jaylen Brown) is that at 6-10 he's plenty big to play the 4 in today's NBA.
Jaylen and BKN 2018? I'd do it.
How about just a second or Young or Zeller. Please look at his game log. Its entirely possible he plays all of a few games the rest of the way this season. He is the most fragile player in the league.
For a season and a half of that player? No, I don't really want that.
I kind of thought their recent success would have them keeping Noel. Who else are they really paying that they can't match him? As long as they ditch Okafor they're covered in the front court both defensively and with floor spacers as long as Simmons is the ball-dominant player.
I am with you 100%.. My point being KG was a bigger fish than any of the names being floated this year.
I'm OK with giving up this year's pick if they get to keep the 18 pick. A core of IT, Butler/George, Horford with the possibility of somebody like Ayton, Bamba, or Porter Jr. added next year.
Himmelsbach says no Bradley or Gerald Green at practice. Wasn't Bradley supposed to be playing tomorrow?
Plus he cost less* and came with an immediate extension attached.
*Given 20/20 hindsight, the Minny 1st that Boston returned as part of the KG trade could have been used to grab Curry, but was used on Jonny Flynn instead. Whoops. Had a second chance when Washington gave up another lotto pick for Foye and Mike Miller, but used it on Rubio. Whoops.
I with those who like idea of Noel if that's the price range---I guess we'll find out if we get a better player/fit than him next summer with cap space but he seems like a good fit. He also is one of those very unique guys who actually has Boston ties, which doesn't matter much but may slightly impact signability.
Mannix on EEI says C's are willing to trade Smart but want to keep Brown and Crowder. I'd rather keep Smart.
We're gonna trade Green now?? Dammit, Ainge. You gotta draw the line somewhere...
Marc J. SpearsVerified account@MarcJSpearsESPN 36m36 minutes ago
The Sixers are still deciding what to do with center Andrew Bogut, a source told The Undefeated.
The Sixers are still deciding what to do with center Andrew Bogut, a source told The Undefeated.
Ummm, this is a dick move media...
Scott Souza@Scott_Souza 15s15 seconds ago
Avery Bradley has been requested by #Celtics
media. May be out back getting Achilles treatment, or may just be out back.
Scott Souza@Scott_Souza 15s15 seconds agoAvery Bradley has been requested by #Celtics
media. May be out back getting Achilles treatment, or may just be out back.
Me, too. Smart can play the 1 and substitute in/out defensively with IT late in games more easily than Bradley. And Brown overlaps more with Butler or George.
As much as I love Marcus, if you can acquire Butler or George without giving up Jaylen or Crowder, I think it is a win. I would do BK17, Smart, and roster fodder for either in a heartbeat. Not sure that it is enough though, would imagine both teams will insiste on Jaylen.