If he was any good, he wouldn't have been available to sign in September on a training camp deal.
Brad's trollingIf he was any good, he wouldn't have been available to sign in September on a training camp deal.
Why? It's not like the C's have first dibs on Maine players. I'm not sure these guys will even play in Maine if they don't make the C's.With COVID still taking athletes out, filling Maine roster spots with NBA vets (instead of kids) is the kind of detail we should appreciate
#SoxAugust
as I said it was a "detail". there are no guarantees here on either side.Why? It's not like the C's have first dibs on Maine players. I'm not sure these guys will even play in Maine if they don't make the C's.
I believe Kornet is also in the 2-way running?I think there's already a 2 way open and the only guy who can get it is Mathews.
So it's possible both could make the team in some manner if Jabari is gone. I just don't think it's a given they end up in Maine if they aren't under C's control.
Up to 4 guys can be designated as "affiliate players" which means if they choose the G-League they go to Maine. So while they could go to Europe, or hypothetically another team's 15 man roster, the Celtics do have a better chance of getting them to Maine if they are Camp roster guys by using Affiliate player designation.I think there's already a 2 way open and the only guy who can get it is Mathews.
So it's possible both could make the team in some manner if Jabari is gone. I just don't think it's a given they end up in Maine if they aren't under C's control.
Kornet has 4 years in the NBA, he isn't eligible for a two-wayI believe Kornet is also in the 2-way running?
Yep, it's definitely not given or gtd any of these players end up in Maine. We'll see what happens there
He has 4 years of NBA experience so he can't get a 2 way as far I know. I just learned the rule today in another thread re: Carsen Edwards.I believe Kornet is also in the 2-way running?
Yep, it's definitely not given or gtd any of these players end up in Maine. We'll see what happens there
As far as I know anybody can be an affiliate player so long as they are on the camp roster. Though Kornet isn't even signed to a camp deal yet, think he's checking out the league to see if a better spot opens up.Can Kornet be an "affiliate player?"
Personally, I see him going overseas if he doesn't make the NBA.
wasn't there some story about Kornet's dad always regretting playing overseas?Can Kornet be an "affiliate player?"
Personally, I see him going overseas if he doesn't make the NBA.
The problem is that so many of these guys being discussed…….are not NBA caliber players. Fernando, Archie, etc. I will say that one guy who could stick “somewhere” in this league is Mathews.However the roster ultimately shakes out, the C's figure to have multiple legitimate NBA players on the bench, which will be a welcome change from recent years.
Not sure Archie will even stick, but I'll take him over Carsen Edwards eight days a week.The problem is that so many of these guys being discussed…….are not NBA caliber players. Fernando, Archie, etc. I will say that one guy who could stick “somewhere” in this league is Mathews.
Right but this isn’t our bench……these are guys who are here for a per diem as practice bodies until we don’t run regular full practices anymore leading up to the start of the regular season.Not sure Archie will even stick, but I'll take him over Carsen Edwards eight days a week.
Also, haven't you been one of the posters praising Brad the GM for putting together a respectable bench?
Mathews will probably be on a 2-way. He's a clear upgrade from our 2-ways and Carsen from last season.Right but this isn’t our bench……these are guys who are here for a per diem as practice bodies until we don’t run regular full practices anymore leading up to the start of the regular season.
Archie over Carsen? Hmmm……do you want to drink the milk that is a week past it’s Exp Date or the one that is two weeks?
Yes, I agree Mathews can have a future in the league. He’s a super he’s worker and can shoot……it took Eddie House 6 teams and a half dozen years to find his role. The others I’ve mentioned simply aren’t NBA caliber players and likely will be a distant memory from the league in the very near future.Mathews will probably be on a 2-way. He's a clear upgrade from our 2-ways and Carsen from last season.
Won't win the Celtics any Championships but its wise to make small incremental improvements wherever you can (esp with COVID variants screwing up rosters)
I know that we value TS as a gauge of a lot, as we should. But for a guy like Eddie, I don't really care as much about his TS as his raw 3PT and maybe EFG if you must.Side side note: I know we have a soft spot in our hearts for Eddie House, but is he really an aspirational comp for anyone? He actually had a fairly linear career with the exception of his age 30 season with Boston where he just shot out of his mind for the season (59.2% TS compared to 2nd best career season of 53.6%).
Side side PS: Archi's worst career TS season in his 4 years was 54.1%.
Side side PPS before you use the different eras argument:
For House's career the NBA TS% was 53.2% & House's career TS was 50.8%.
For Archi's career the NBA TS% has been 56.3% & Archi's career TS has been 57.0%.
if Mathews ends up on a 2-way after starting 24 games/playing over 1000 minutes for a playoff team, we can be nothing but pleased with PBS.Yes, I agree Mathews can have a future in the league. He’s a super he’s worker and can shoot……it took Eddie House 6 teams and a half dozen years to find his role. The others I’ve mentioned simply aren’t NBA caliber players and likely will be a distant memory from the league in the very near future.
How about this...in House's 11 year NBA career, he never played more than 19.8 mpg in a season. His career high in mpg was his age 25 season with the Clippers.I know that we value TS as a gauge of a lot, as we should. But for a guy like Eddie, I don't really care as much about his TS as his raw 3PT and maybe EFG if you must.
Ummmmm, I’d say House would be an inspiration for not just any…..but for EVERY…..limited skilled role player to see a guy who has been through 7 organizations without yet finding his niche in the league on his way to $14m in career earnings. Few have persevered more in this league than Eddie House.Side side note: I know we have a soft spot in our hearts for Eddie House, but is he really an aspirational comp for anyone?
But he had the same role everywhere he went & put up similar stats everywhere he went? The only real difference is that for 2 years he did his thing for us, & 1 of those 2 years was a huge outlier in terms of his shooting.Ummmmm, I’d say House would be an inspiration for not just any…..but for EVERY…..limited skilled role player who has been through 7 organizations without yet finding his niche in the league on his way to $14m in career earnings. Few have persevered more in this league than Eddie House.
The thing is that we have 16 guaranteed contracts so these guys aren’t fighting for the 14th or 15th spots on our roster. They are training camp per diem guys hoping to catch on with some teams G-League team. Archie had his opportunity, showed that he can’t play in the league, and didn’t have an offer from a team with an open roster spot. Even Mathews, who I feel could someday take the House road to make an impact the league, wasn’t wanted even by a Wizards team who choose instead to leave open a 15th roster slot.I think most of these guys are NBA players... they are just all 13th-15th men. Given they appear to be fighting it out for the 14th and 15 spot on the roster.... that's pretty decent.
I look at teams like the Bucks for example... the guys fighting for their last 2 spots aren't any better than what we're looking at
The thing is that we have 16 guaranteed contracts so these guys aren’t fighting for the 14th or 15th spots on our roster. They are training camp per diem guys hoping to catch on with some teams G-League team. Archie had his opportunity, showed that he can’t play in the league, and didn’t have an offer from a team with an open roster spot. Even Mathews, who I feel could someday take the House road to make an impact the league, wasn’t wanted even by a Wizards team who choose instead to leave open a 15th roster slot.
If you look upthread, Hollinger speculates one of the guards might make it over Fernando, and basically everyone thinks Jabari (unguaranteed deal) is on the chopping block if they decide to go in a different direction. I'd say there are 6 guys (Fernando, Parker, Arci, Mathews, Pinson, Kornet) fighting for 2 spots with the rest either going elsewhere (Europe, Asia, or maybe another team's 15) or getting affiliate tagged and going to Maine. I'd guess Fernando with guaranteed money and Parker have the inside track, but any 2 of those 6 could be 14/15 and it wouldn't surprise me much. Also.... we might make another trade that opens up a roster spot.The thing is that we have 16 guaranteed contracts so these guys aren’t fighting for the 14th or 15th spots on our roster. They are training camp per diem guys hoping to catch on with some teams G-League team. Archie had his opportunity, showed that he can’t play in the league, and didn’t have an offer from a team with an open roster spot. Even Mathews, who I feel could someday take the House road to make an impact the league, wasn’t wanted even by a Wizards team who choose instead to leave open a 15th roster slot.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueKanter’s current franchise, the Boston Celtics, had multiple players unvaccinated as of Thursday, he and a teammate say. The NBA claims that 90 percent of its more than 450 players — star veterans and players trying to make rosters alike — have received at least one shot, a rate lower than the conservative NFL.
Shooting is a valuable skill.Side note: Heat paying Duncan Robinson 5/$90m seems crazy af.
In a vacuum, sure. He does not seem to be an elite enough shooter to overcome the other flaws in his game to be worth that type of $.Shooting is a valuable skill.
Yeah 5/90 isn't crazy money either. AAV of 18 would put him tied for #66 this upcoming year with Myles Turner and Bogdan. None of those three are great contracts, but they could all be moved too.I agree that it is a gamble that might not pay off. But clearly shooting is a skill that will be compensated!
Yeah, with that roster, I think it's money well-spent.Spo needs players that can spread the floor when playing Bam and Butler.
Nobody in their right mind is playing off Duncan to help in the lane on those 2
Not to mention it isn’t money that can be spent elsewhere anyway as a team over the cap. Losing Duncan for nothing without being to replace his salary slot is the far worse option than paying him $18m per season.Yeah, with that roster, I think it's money well-spent.