In a Marvin Williams hypothetical, it'd be AB+Crowder going, which is within the 25% of Williams' salary (18% to be exact), so it should be ok. And if they decide not to re-sign AB, it actually saves them ~8m/year over the next few seasons.Problem with the Hornets is they are well over the cap.
it would have to be after we shed salary to get Hayward signed.In a Marvin Williams hypothetical, it'd be AB+Crowder going, which is within the 25% of Williams' salary (18% to be exact), so it should be ok. And if they decide not to re-sign AB, it actually saves them ~8m/year over the next few seasons.
Pau and Zaza.Who are the FA rim protectors still out there?
(0.75+ blocks per game)Who are the FA rim protectors still out there?
They could fit P. Gasol if they move Crowder and Bradley, yes?Pau and Zaza.
That's what I had assumed and was surprised he was still listed as FA. I guess they are still working the roster.Pau is probably going back to SA. He opted out to give the team more cap space in FA.
(0.75+ blocks per game)
Alex Len (RFA)
Mason Plumlee (RFA)
James Johnson
Pau Gasol
Nerlens Noel (RFA)
Roy Hibbert
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Nicola Mirotic
Festus Ezeli (DNP in 16-17)
I'm not sure what you're saying here, but no, the idea is that you do this first, and it saves you enough cap space to then sign Hayward. Swapping AB+Crowder's salaries for Williams, and then cutting Mickey (and adding a cap hold), puts you max+410k under the cap.it would have to be after we shed salary to get Hayward signed.
Not valuable picks, and not really.That's much more than the Pelicans paid for him last year. Since when did Cousins' value skyrocket?
yeah, I looked too quickly and thought they were adding contract.I'm not sure what you're saying here, but no, the idea is that you do this first, and it saves you enough cap space to then sign Hayward. Swapping AB+Crowder's salaries for Williams, and then cutting Mickey (and adding a cap hold), puts you max+410k under the cap.
I'm not sure I totally understand your question, but if you have fewer than 12 players under contract there is a roster charge for each open slot equal to the rookie minimum salary. For players that you hold rights to their cap hold is a formula based on their previous salary. This cap hold remains on the books until they are renounced or sign with another team.Quick question and may be foolish. How much cheaper is the minimum contract than the corresponding cap hold? Or put differently, how luck cap space would they gain by actually not having those cap holds?
Isn't it 14?I'm not sure I totally understand your question, but if you have fewer than 12 players under contract there is a roster charge for each open slot equal to the minimum salary. For players that you hold rights to their cap hold is a formula based on their previous salary. This cap hold remains on the books until they are renounced or sign with another team.
You have to carry at least 13 but you get charged for 14 regardless iirc. You can now carry up to 17.I think it's 13 but the league average must be 14. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Per question 13 of Larry Coon's CBAFAQ:Isn't it 14?
However I do see additional sections that say the roster size is 13 or even 14. Is this something that changed in the new CBA? Maybe that's where the confusion is coming in.A cap hold called an "incomplete roster charge" if the team has fewer than 12 players (players under contract, free agents included in team salary, players given offer sheets, and first round draft picks). This charge is equal to the rookie minimum salary for each player fewer than 12. For example, if there are 11 players included in team salary, then an amount equal to the rookie minimum salary is added to the team salary; if the roster is completely empty, then 12 times the rookie minimum salary is added to the team salary. This charge only applies during the offseason.
Those guys all make it harder to get under the cap though.I'm not sure targeting a long term prospect like that is really what the C's should be doing, though. They have Tatum and Yabusele as potential long-term options as stretch 4 types, but they really could use someone reliable in front of those guys while they develop. Amir and KO may not have been world beaters, but they at least had some miles under their belts that you could put them in at big moments and have some confidence... they don't currently have someone like that. One of the DEN guys, Marvin Williams, Jamychal Green, James Johnson (though of course a trade works better here)... that's the tier of guys I think they should be targeting. It's lower ceiling types, but guys that aren't going to be making rookie mistakes in crunch time.
According to Jake Fischer of SI.com (Twitter link), the Celtics offered Crowder to late-lottery teams leading up to June’s draft, hoping to land a pick and a young player. If the team wasn’t able to land that sort of package then, it’s even less likely now, given Boston’s reduced leverage.
Per Ian Begley of ESPN.com, the Celtics reached out to the Knicks today about Smart, but New York’s level of interest is unclear.
Smart for Porzingis? Stoke the rumors up.https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/07/celtics-shopping-crowder-smart-bradley.html
Interesting info in that article, including the following:
Or Kyle O'Quinn. A pool, a pond...Smart for Porzingis? Stoke the rumors up.
Salt Lake Tribune saying a sign and trade with Hayward is possible if Hayward agrees to it.
Talking about it on summer league game. Allows them to get him max contract and clear up cap space by sending player(s) back to UtahWhy would Celtics do that? What could Utah offer that would be beneficial to the Celtics over any other team?
According to guy in NBA TV...no clue how or if it worksTalking about it on summer league game. Allows them to get him max contract and clear up cap space by sending player(s) back to Utah
The guy on NBATV is speculating Smart could go the other way but there has been smoke around Crowder with the Jazz.Talking about it on summer league game. Allows them to get him max contract and clear up cap space by sending player(s) back to Utah
NBA Twitter is talking about a trade that allows the Celtics to keep Bradley, Smart and Crowder.I don't get it at all unless you're going to sign another FA, then use Olynyk+ in a S&T to get Hayward. Otherwise you're throwing away assets since you can get at least something for those guys from another team.
In your scenario, are they not signing Hayward? Tatum's lower salary slot actually means its easier to only lose one of Crowder, Bradley or Smart with that signing.Not to be a downer, but I am starting to feel we were better off drafting Fultz if the alternative was Tatum (now #3 on the depth chart at SF) + losing Bradley or Smart. Beyond Porter and Doncic, next year's draft isn't anything special, so the extra 2018 pick we got to move down wasn't really worth it.
And AytonNot to be a downer, but I am starting to feel we were better off drafting Fultz if the alternative was Tatum (now #3 on the depth chart at SF) + losing Bradley or Smart. Beyond Porter and Doncic, next year's draft isn't anything special, so the extra 2018 pick we got to move down wasn't really worth it.
Yeah, moving Rozier/JAckson.NBA Twitter is talking about a trade that allows the Celtics to keep Bradley, Smart and Crowder.
No. Not per this article.David Aldridge saying a potential sign and trade could get Hayward his 5th year, that's not legal in a sign and trade anymore is it?
Hasn';t been since 2011, he's repeating what the guy at SL said, and both are morons.David Aldridge saying a potential sign and trade could get Hayward his 5th year, that's not legal in a sign and trade anymore is it?
Yeah, they also mentioned the jazz maybe holding the cs hostage for multiple players like they have any leverage here. I can't see any incentive to sign and trade unless the Jazz have some other small asset the Cs would want in exchange for Bradley/Crowder/Smart.Hasn';t been since 2011, he's repeating what the guy at SL said, and both are morons.
Rodney Hood would be nice.Yeah, they also mentioned the jazz maybe holding the cs hostage for multiple players like they have any leverage here. I can't see any incentive to sign and trade unless the Jazz have some other small asset the Cs would want in exchange for Bradley/Crowder/Smart.