This is already a thing in NCAA hockey (and has been for a couple of years). In college, that play gets reviewed, and Wilson gets five and is ejected.I’m not usually one to call for more replay but the league should be able to review hits to the head when a player is injured similar to what NCAAF has for “targeting.”
I doubt it. The Caps have 16 games between now and the next time they face the B's. The biggest beneficiaries of a lengthy suspension would seem to be Philly, NYR, and NJD.B’s don’t play the Caps again for five weeks, and then four times in two weeks. Will he miss those?
Here's the problem. The NHL refs did in fact review this during the periods and told Bergy they did not think it was a shot to the head (from 1:20 on in this video)This is already a thing in NCAA hockey (and has been for a couple of years). In college, that play gets reviewed, and Wilson gets five and is ejected.
Amen. The league gave referees a solution for this problem: if it looks like a major penalty, call it, and a review will take care of any situations where the infraction was less severe than it looked. That Morton and Lambert didn't exercise this option is where I start getting really mad. And the story of looking at the video during intermission just reeks of them cobbling together an excuse for their egregious non-call. The real problem is the NHL officials don't have the integrity to issue a genuine mea culpa mid-game.The continued problem is not only dirty players but the refs, as almost all on this board have agreed. Because of either incompetence or (fill in the blank), refs are not held accountable. In cases where serious injury and/or lives could be at stake, they need to be disciplined, especially when they failed to even call a penalty. I am not aware of that happening in the past. Perhaps someone on this board has a better memory and, if so, do share.
Thanks for the info and Amen right back atcha. The non-action by the League has repercussions. I'm assuming I am not alone when I say that as a fan, things changed for me after game 5 of the Blues series, when 2 bruins received headshots (no penalties; one later deemed worthy of a suspension), followed by two more non-calls (one leading directly to the winning goal). I simply no longer think this league is legit. I watch of course, but the incompetence is so bad that I do wonder (and I mean rationally, not just due to anger) about whats going on here behind the scenes. We are dealing with actual lives on a shot like the one Carlo received (what if he were a member of your family and in a coma at Mass general?). its not a joke, and we should not simply say "well, thats the NHL now." Its criminal, and letters to the commish are in order.Amen. The league gave referees a solution for this problem: if it looks like a major penalty, call it, and a review will take care of any situations where the infraction was less severe than it looked. That Morton and Lambert didn't exercise this option is where I start getting really mad. And the story of looking at the video during intermission just reeks of them cobbling together an excuse for their egregious non-call. The real problem is the NHL officials don't have the integrity to issue a genuine mea culpa mid-game.
And yes, I'm all in favor of reviewing the officials' performance post-game, especially in cases where a suspension was issued on a play that didn't get penalized in-game. Sure, the refs aren't going to get everything, especially something like a behind-the-play spear or slewfoot. But having a full view of repeat offender Tom Wilson attempting to decapitate Brandon Carlo and doing absolutely nothing about it deserves a vacation from the job, perhaps a permanent one.
Which affects the fine, as mentioned over and over, above. Start at post 338.I read that Wilson 's last suspension was in 2018 so he is no longer considered a repeat offender. This situation has the potential to be epically bad.
He is proof that it is far better to be lucky and well connected than talented or knowledgeable.Greg Wyshinski, trash writer and terrible podcaster, has come out in favor of the hit, so you know, that might give you an idea that the league is going to fuck this up more and not suspend him.
I meant "bad" as he either gets nothing or 1 game.Which affects the fine, as mentioned over and over, above. Start at post 338.
He is still considered a repeat offender. You said he wasn’t. We don’t disagree on our anticipation of the length of any suspensionI meant "bad" as he either gets nothing or 1 game.
I said it's what I read. I wasn't presenting myself as an authority. I went to the NHL player safety rules and they are from 2015.He is still considered a repeat offender. You said he wasn’t. We don’t disagree on our anticipation of the length of any suspension
Agree. Quote: "it is the totality of the circumstances that cause this play to merit supplemental discipline.” Seems like they just made it up.I like how they didn’t suspend him for an illegal check to the head but spend the whole video saying this rises to supplemental discipline because of head contact.
Guessing the dart landed on 7 because 7 in a 56 game season is roughly equivalent to 10 in an 82 game season and we know they like their convoluted formula’so justify suspension length.
Well I think it's a joke he didn't get more for spearing someone in the nuts. He basically got pocket change fine for one of the douchiest moves in hockeyJust got push notification that Ovechkin thinks 7 games is a "joke".
View: https://twitter.com/SamanthaJPell/status/1368607040457834501
Seriously... if someone speared him in the hockeybag, the whole Caps organization would be crying for a lifetime banFuck Ovechkin. Can't believe I kind of/sort of rooted for this team on their Cup run. What an enormous piece of trash organization.
He is SO bad. It's not just the numbers, he looks terrible out there. Desperate times, I guess, but I'd take almost anyone else over him.Tinordi through 3 games:
58% Ozone start, getting out shot 24-14, out chanced 19-9, losing the high danger battle 8-2 and rocking a 27% xGF%.
I know they are banged up but it's coaching malpractice to put him on the ice.
I haven't been watching too closely but I note at least a couple of dumb plays a game as well. For example, in the third period yesterday the B's had numbers back and Devils were gaining the zone on the boards. Tinordi was on the weak side and came to give support to his dman, leaving the guy on the opposite side wide open. It didn't hurt them but it was a lack of awareness that could've screwed them with minimal upside if things went "right".Tinordi through 3 games:
58% Ozone start, getting out shot 24-14, out chanced 19-9, losing the high danger battle 8-2 and rocking a 27% xGF%.
I know they are banged up but it's coaching malpractice to put him on the ice.
I can see the need against the Caps because of their style and size but the Devils are soft and a guy like Moore would have been more useful.Tinordi through 3 games:
58% Ozone start, getting out shot 24-14, out chanced 19-9, losing the high danger battle 8-2 and rocking a 27% xGF%.
I know they are banged up but it's coaching malpractice to put him on the ice.
He did the needful when he went after Wilson.Tinordi through 3 games:
58% Ozone start, getting out shot 24-14, out chanced 19-9, losing the high danger battle 8-2 and rocking a 27% xGF%.
I know they are banged up but it's coaching malpractice to put him on the ice.
I usually appreciate Bruce’s candor, but worry his comments could further devalue a tradeable asset here. He probably should’ve left it as “coaches decision” and been done commenting.
He's been so inconsistent, and really just plain bad for long stretches this year, that I completely understand Cassidy feeing like he needs to be brutally honest with him, and take some pretty aggressive measures to try and get him going. Particularly if they have come to the conclusion that this is an effort and attitude issue. But I will say, I was a little taken back by the candor as well. About as harsh as public criticism gets from a professional coach in 2021.I usually appreciate Bruce’s candor, but worry his comments could further devalue a tradeable asset here. He probably should’ve left it as “coaches decision” and been done commenting.
Jeez that's terrible luck for him.Upper body for Senyshyn - "out some time"
6 game now, double the sample size!Tinordi through 3 games:
58% Ozone start, getting out shot 24-14, out chanced 19-9, losing the high danger battle 8-2 and rocking a 27% xGF%.
I know they are banged up but it's coaching malpractice to put him on the ice.
Any chance they are holding Vaakanainen out because he’s in a deal?6 game now, double the sample size!
90 minutes TOI
63% O zone start
37% CF (52 for 88 against
38% SF (30-49)
31% SCF (18-41)
24% HDSCF (5-16)
31% xGF
40% actual goals (2-3)
The indication from morning skate today is Tinordi is playing with Steve kampfer tonight. Vaakanainen is being scratched (healthy as far as I know) They literally could not have put Vaakanainen into a worse spot and now he seems to be getting blamed for that pairings ineffectiveness.
This is the most confusing thing the Bruins have done in a long, long time. Jarred Tinordi is awful and they are continuing to play him over superior options. I can see the argument for using him against Washington as a big body face puncher. That is literally all he is useful for. When he is on the ice it is a fire drill in our own end, hold your breath we don't get scored on.
I know I'm being very negative here but I just don't understand what they see and think he does that will help them win games. They excel at defending and limiting chances against. They don't need a stay at home guy (and it's being generous to describe Tinordi as stay at home). They need someone who will move the puck a little bit.